• Sun, Aug 21 2005

Inaccurate DNA Test Results

When a former employee of Washington hairdresser Andre Chreky accused him of being the father of her teenage son, he knew that couldn’t be the case. But a DNA paternity test conducted by Laboratory Corp. of America, or LabCorp, one of the largest paternity testers in the country and the state of Virginia’s exclusive contractor, said that he was with 99.99 percent certainty.

Then it turned out that LabCorp was woefully understaffed with dire consequences for the accuracy of DNA test results and the people affected by them. At LabCorp, only five people review data from DNA tests and make paternity determinations. One supervisor testified at Chreky’s trial contesting the results of the DNA test that he worked 10-hour shifts during which he issued an average of one paternity report every four minutes.

DNA experts say Chreky’s case underscores a growing problem in the burgeoning field of DNA testing: People make mistakes, and people collect the DNA samples and perform the analysis. So, they say, although DNA is as reliable as ever as a definitive science, the people reading and analyzing that science are imperfect. And the volume of DNA testing keeps rising.

People do make mistakes but Anthony Chreky didn’t make one with the woman who claimed he was the father of her son. After two years in court, the judge ruled in Chreky’s favor but he’ll never be able to claim back the time he spent worrying, the money he paid to support a son he didn’t father, and the resources he used to fight the wrongful paternity case.

As much as I believe DNA tests can revolutionize medicine and our world at large, they are as prone to error as any other technology. Whenever possible, get a second opinion or confirmatory test.

The Washington Post, August 20, 2005

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  • Dr. Ryan

    I commented once before, but I just wanted to say that you’re running a great site. We’ve placed a link to yours on our website, http://www.WhatsNewInHealth

  • http://www.aboutweblogs.com/genetics/ Lei

    Dr. Ryan, That is very kind of you! Hope you’ll come back and lend us your expertise.

  • Dorothy

    I have recently had to get someone paternity tested but I am not satisfied with the results. How likely is it that they could be wrong?

  • rob

    I have a question. is it possible for a paternity DNA test results to come negative and one postive with the same alleged father and son? I had a test done with the child and it came out negative and i had a different one done now the kid and mother and this one came out positive is this possible?

  • http://geneticsandhealth.com Hsien Hsien Lei, PhD

    Dorothy and rob: The accuracy of your paternity test results depend on the number of genetic markers that were tested. The more the better. You should get the specifics from the companies you used and compare them to others’. Good luck!

  • RJ

    Is there a special dna test for alleged father with sickle cell,and does the age of child make a difference right after the child has given birth.Would a blood test be necessary in determining paternity results versus the cheek swab?in other words would having sickle cell disease effect the results in a paternity if the child is grown and does not have it but the alleged father does?

  • Nicole

    Could the mother and alleged father share some of the same genetic markers, that the baby doesn’t share with them? Could the alleged father, mother, and baby all share the same genetic markers? And can a person only have one genetic gene?

  • Nicole

    would a blood test be more accurate over a swab? Your opinion of my questions would really be helpful and appreciated.

  • patrick

    what percentage of paternity dna tests are inaccurate, and, can a man receive a fair and accurate dna test?

  • Pilar

    I just had a dna test done on the man I presumed to be the father of my son, based on the time of conception from my doctor. Is it at all possible that the test that came out 0% probability is wrong?

  • KARLA

    i jus tested my boyfriend and the test came out negative.. 0 percent… but my son looks just like him! everyone else says the same thing.. and that he should take another test.. i truly believe the test is wrong… how possible is that?

  • TROY

    HELLO HOW ARE YOU DOING I AM CONFUSED I HAD DONE A PATERNITY TEST I DO NOT AGREEE TO THE TEST I CONFESS I HAVE NOT THE BEST DENTAL HYGEINE BUT THE BOYS LOOK LIKE ME SO MUCH ALL MY FACIAL FEATURES PHYSICAL FEATURES HANDS FEET AND ESPECIALLY MY EYES THE PUPIL BEING BLACK BUT EVERYTHING ELSE A BROWN IT IS LIGHTER IN THIER EYES MY MOTHER SAW THEM AS WELL AS MY FAMILY SHE OVER LOOKED THEM FROM HEAD TO TOE AND AGREE THEY SAID THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME AS I WAS I NEVER RECIEVED THE PERCENTAGES JUST HEARD CHILD SUPPORT SAY I AINT WHAT CAN I DO TO REALLY FIND OUT

  • TROY

    WHEN I TOOK THE SWAB TEST IT DID NOT LOOK AS IF SHE REALLY COLLECTED ANYTHING I SCRAPED THE SIDES OF MY MOUTH NOT MUCH AT ALL CAME OUT WOULD CHILD SUPPORT GIVE WRONG RESULTS TO PREVENT ME FROM GOING AFTER CUSTODY OF THE CHILDREN AND JUST SEEK PAYMENT THEY DID CALL THE DAY BEFORE RESULTS AND SAID THEY WERE CALLING TO SET UP A COURT DATE AND THE NOTICE IS ON ITS WAY FOR TERMINATION OF PARENTAL RIGHTS I SAID NO I WANT MY PARENTAL RIGHTS AND CUSTODY WOULD THEY COULD THEY HAVE THEY EVER FROM WHAT AS FAR AS YOU KNOW BEEN DIRTY ENOUGH TO DO SO

  • Sara

    This happened to me. Tried to establish my daughter’s paternity only to have the alleged father be excluded. Ten years and three tests later, it was determined that the lab made a mistake on the very first test. TEN YEARS later. DNA test aren’t always accurate. If you have any doubt, insist on another test.

  • TROY

    I WAS TOLD THAT THE RESULT WOULD NEVER BE 0 DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE BOTH THE SAME NATIONALITY IS THAT TRUE AND HOW COULD I INVESTEGATE WEATHER OR NOT THE LAB MADE MISTAKES OTHER THAN RETESTING WOULD MY DNA STILL BE ON RECORD WITH THE BOYS DNAOW DO I GET THE INFORMATION

  • Teesha

    I recently had an athome dna test done for my son and the alleged father.The test came back that the alleged father was 0% probability of being the father.I really beleive in my heart that the results were wrong. I didnt mention that the test was 20$.So tomorrow were going to get another dna test done at a lab for $400. Could my results have been wrong?I beleive so.

  • TROY

    AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND LAB CORPORATION OF AMERICA HAS A BAD REPUTATION DUE TO INCORRECT DNA RESULTS HAS ANYONE HEARED OF ANYTHING SIMILAR TO THIS AS WELL I FOUND THAT THEY ARE BASED IN VIRGINIA AND THE FBI STATES THE DNA LABS OE WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO TEST

  • TROY

    IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN GET A REPORT ON THE LAB MY TEST WAS DONE SHOWING LAB RECORDS THAT SHOULD VERY WELL BE PUBLIC INFORMATION HOW DO I REQUEST REPORT

  • Joanie Populis

    I had a paternity test w/ a guy 2 yrs ago. the test said that he was the father by 99.99%. my son is almost 3 and looks nothing like him, but looks very much like the other man that was never tested. and they share some of the same health problems. What percent of dna paternity tests actually end up to be wrong? should both of the men been tested at the same time,?

  • Grace Ibay

    Joanie – The company where you had the test done would be able to answer your question specifically. all the best!

  • debra manzanares

    my daughter just had dna done with a home kit and it came back saying that he was not the fother but i think it wrong was because his family and other’s say thay look just a like and my granddaughter look’s even more like him i just dont trust it.

  • Maya

    My son tested a lab corp also and the test came back that the alleged father has been excluded and it is 0 percent possibilty…could this be wrong, because he was the only one that I was with and he looks just like him, the alleged fathers son and his mother….

  • Crystal

    I had a DNA test done through Lab Corp. In North Carolina. The result came back that he was not the father of my daughter. There has to be a mistake because I was with no other guy. This has made my life a mess and now the guy is refussing to take another test. If anyone has any good advice for me please share… Thanks

  • Sara

    Hi Crystal

    Same thing happened to me and the test was actually wrong. Please ask for a retest (or do it yourself with a mail kit – I used GTLdna.com) as soon as possible. DNA test can be wrong it just doesn’t happen very often. Be prepared to stand your ground as many people will think you’re crazy!

  • Crystal

    Hello Sara,
    Thank you so much for responding. You made me feel better. It is so hard to explain to people because they think that there is no way a DNA test can come out wrong. I feel helpless when I explain to people. I know there was a mistake and I really wish that it didn’t come out this way. We were going to do a blood test but my daughters dad refuessed it. In order for me to get a test done again I have to hire an attorney and get it court ordered. I’m not sure what im going to do at this point. It’s just a tough thing to deal with and it makes me feel better that im not the only one that has gone through this and that somebody knows what I’m going through. Anyways thank you for your response it has helped me feel better. ~Crystal

  • Crystal

    Maya,
    Which Lab Corp. Did you go through?

  • leah

    Crystal, I had the same thing happen to me. My daughter’s father would not retake the dna test either, so i talked to a few different labs and had a copy of the test sent to one, and they told me that the test was not right. The lab called the other lab and demanded that they retest and the test came back that he is her father. HAVE SOME OTHER LAB LOOK AT THE TEST!

  • shelly

    I used gtldna.com for a paternity test and I am possitive the results are wrong. I am not sure what to do? should I try another company? which one should I use? can anyone help me? sara who did you have look at the test?

  • Diana

    Labcorp recently issued a test result naming my son as the father of a child that he insists is not his. He requested a second Y-Line DNA test that is 100% accurate between fathers and sons. (For those of you who cannot afford expensive litigation, if the child is a boy, his Y chromosomes must match his Father’s exactly.) The agency has denied the Y-line DNA test, citing 99.99% positive. However, the test is a statistical formula, and when I examined it, based on the formula, my son is almost as likely to be the father of the mother of the child he is accused of fathering. If we prove this child is not my son’s with a Y-Line test, it should change everything for a lot of accused fathers. Which leads me to my question.

    Does anyone know where to get a Y-Line DNA test performed in Alaska that is not done by Labcorp since they would be bias in this instance. Thanks

  • jim

    leah witch lab did you send copied test to i would vary much like to do same thing thank you for the great idea

  • http://w220jm@yahoo.com jim

    hi crystal my DNA test was done through Lab Corp In North Carolina too. court ordered in washington st in 2005 probability of paternity was 99.99%..only one time i had PROTECTED sex with mother was in 2001 when SHE picked me up in a bar we had been friends in high school. 3years later i get surved with a paternity suit
    recently i was looking at the chain of custody photo of the mother and child (not a vary good copy)the child looks like the mothers 5 year old daughter not the 2 year old son she and the courts say i am the father of ( i doubt the kid exists) i have never seen him but tried.SO YES I THINK LABCORP IS A BIG SCAM. and i dont have money for a lawyer. so i was hoping i could send a copy of my labcorps test to a different lab like leah said (i did read somewere the labs have to hold tests i think for 5years if you need a copy of yours)so dont give up good luck

  • Diana

    My son’s DNA test was at North Carolina too. What is up with that???

  • http://w220jm@yahoo.com jim

    crystal i seen this hoped it helps What can I do if I receive a test result that I feel is wrong (false)?

    The first thing to do is contact the lab that performed your test and discuss your concerns with them. Oftentimes the concerns can be addressed in a mutually acceptable manner.

    If the alleged father is excluded and you feel that an error was made, you should ask the lab to go to the original sample tube and rerun the test. All AABB accredited laboratories are required to do this automatically.

    If for some reason you cannot obtain a second test, you can always send a sample on yourself to a different lab for a DNA profile and compare your DNA pattern to that on your report in order to make certain the DNA pattern that appeared on the original report was in fact yours.

    * If your DNA test was performed by a lab that was not accredited to perform DNA paternity testing, you should easily be able to convince a court or judge to allow a retesting of all parties by a laboratory accredited to perform DNA paternity testing. labcorps phone#336-584-5171

  • gotoffwith

    hey I am so hurt right now and after hearing all of your stories I feel hopeful. My ex-boyfriend was murdered about 3 months ago. We had been trying to get a DNA test done on my son for 5 years because he got me pregnant and then left me hangin and my older childs father signed the birth certificate. I never thought this was actually his son. My son looks just like my ex who is now deaceased. I asked his twin brother who is fraternal to take a ystr chrosome test with DNA Diagnostic Center. I almost fainted when I saw that the pattern was not a match. I was tryin got get my sons name changed. Also me and my ex have another child and both of our children are 1 year apart and look just like him. Football built, funny shaped head, and not to mention the personality which is undeniable. DNA diagnostic center says that there is no way my ex could be the father unless he and his twin have different fathers. Now I have to do another test with the hopes that they actually do have different fahters. Which he mentioned to me once, but I thought he was crazy as every thinks I am crazy for thinking this actually can be true now!!! What a mess..

  • Crystal

    Gotoffwith,
    First thing I wanna say to you is your not alone. My reaction when I got my test results back were the same. People looked at me like I was crazy and drilled me about other possiable fathers. I can’t tell you what it is like to go through everyday knowing that dna test was wrong. I’m working though really a hard on getting another test done and getting the right results. I’m tell you what this site has been a GOD sent to me. I felt so alone and the way people made me feel was so horriable like DNA test are never wrong. Well humans perform them so there is always room for error. My situation is a complete mess and I just pray and hope someday it will be settled and this nightmare will be over. I wish you the best of luck and never ever lose hope….

    ~Crystal

  • sandy

    Hello so glad I found this site it has been a god send. I GOT A TEST THROUGH LABCORP NC Through our local child support division. I I took my test in indiana and he lives in ohio so they did his in ohio a few months later.
    It said 0% chance not the dad. I wasn’t with anybody else and my son looks identical to the dad he even has his pectus exbaum which is a dent in the chest which the dad has one as well. I mean everything and even the dad thinks somethings wrong. I don’t want to waste my money on another test but im certain some kind of mix up. I will have to look for a better test and labcorp only test the 13 loci’s and i hear dna diagnostics test 16. Labcorp North caolina must be running a fraud.

  • Diana

    Okay, we are getting ready to ask the Superior Court in AK for a second test, by a different lab, and for a different lab to look at the original test. I really cant take an online thing to the judge. Any suggestions? We live in Anchorage.

  • Crystal

    Diana,
    Is the girl that had this baby going to be in court with you guys? I’m asking because they are telling me I have to go to court with the father of my daughter and I don’t want to go that route….It would be a complete mess…

  • Diana

    Yes, my son will be filing for 4 things before April 30, 2009. 1. For a new test 2. Supoena for the medical records concerning the pregnancy 3. Relief of Child Suport interim 4. 50/50 custody if the child is indeed his.
    If your problem is to be resolved you will have to take it to court. Mess or not, you will eventually need to face off with the father.

  • Crystal

    Diana,
    I know I’m going to have to do that. Right now I’m just so emotional drained I have been through a lot it’s be a roller coaster ride.. I know my daughter is going to have questions when she gets older so I need to fight for her right now. I know it will be worth it in the end its just everything is fallen down on me and it’s hard to hear someone lie about me.

  • Crystal

    Diana,
    If you wouldn’t mind letting me know how it went or at least the procedure of it that would be great so I kind of know what to expect. Thank you..

  • LaTina

    hi. I filed for child support and my son’s father thought I was wrong for so to be spitful he orders a DNA test Im not worried because I know he has been the ONLY man I had sex with EVER. But Im soooo scared the test wont come out correct because people make mistakes. I live in Michigan and the DNA test is next week. Wahat shoiuld I do?

  • vina

    do you guys think the home kit test at gtl is accurate? thanks

  • Crystal

    Ibabygurl918~
    Hello thank you for sharing your story. Its been a rough bumpy road in such a short period of time. I’m sure you can relate to me on that. I have not did anymore on the case yet but plan I doing so shortly. I will for sure let you know my process. This site has been a GOD SENT to me! I felt like my whole world had been turned upside down when i got my results back. I felt so alone and then I came across this site. Some of the suggestion have helped me so much. I want to keep everyone posted on my case and new things I find out because it might help you or them. I will forsure let you know what I find out and my process. I just want to say GOOD LUCK and never give up! Oh and one more thing I was curious when did you have the test done? Alright thank you for your heart felt words I needed to hear that more than anything right now!

    ~ Crystal

  • Jenni

    Hello Everyone.

    Almost 4 years ago I like a lot of other people made a stupid decision. I met a wonderful friend online and spoke to him for months through instant messages and so forth. We finally agreed to meet one weekend and I drove to Georgia to see him. I thought he was great! Everything I wanted and then some. Unfortunately, I wasn’t aware that his father was sick, and he was transferring (He was in the Military) and he had too much on his plate then to worry about having a girlfriend. When he stopped talking to me, I assumed he jsut didn’t like me. A month after meeting him, oopsies. I was pregnant. I tried to send him emails, and I always deleted them. Finally when she was just an infant, I looked at her, and stopped being selfish and made the hardest decision of my life. I told him about her. Thinking to myself, Oh he isn’t going to care, I had prepared myself to tell her, your father just was too busy, he ruined my thoughts and turned out to surprise me and say he wanted to be in the babies life. Shocked, Confused, Worried, Scared, and Taken back, I wrote him a reply and told him that I had made a mistake, that she wasnt really his after all. My mother had said numerous times that he would try to get custody, and she would be traveling all over since he was military. These things scared the crap out of me. So I again, made a terrible mistake and Tried to suck up my ignorance. Just this past Year, I was feeling horrible about things. She wanted a father. She saw my older son with his father, and you could just tell that she was needing that Daddy Role in her life. So I sent him and email once every few months, for 7 months I didnt hear back from him. Finally In November, I got a reply back. My heart pounded and I got sick to my stomach. He sent me an instant messsage, and said “Hey, Whats that e-mail about?” My stomach went into convulsions and I just said, I lied, I’m sorry, But you are her father. I have a very successful job, My children have great family support, We have a nice home, and I have multiple vehicles. I wasn’t looking for child support, I was looking for “Father Love”. He took it all so well. I was really impressed and shocked at how much he was into the idea of being a father. There were days when i thought my life was the best it would ever be. I had finally accomplished something meaningful, I gave my daughter her father. I’ll never forget the look on her face the first time she spoke with him on the phone. Her face glowed, her silly little smiles disappeared, and she said, “HI DADDY!” She listened so contently to him while he told her about his puppy he had just gotten. It was the first time that she had ever in her whole 3 little years of life, glowed that way. She talked about him for hours that day. I promised her that we would fly and see him, (the military had sent him further away)

    I was so determined to prove to him that I was sorry for not telling him about her and the truth for 3 years that i begged him to take a DNA test immediately. I wanted nothing to stand in the way of him opening up to her. I had lied to him when she was an infant. he remembered that. I wanted to start over from scratch and just let them get to know each other, and enjoy their time together. She was so wrapped up into talking to him daily and everything that I didnt want anything to hamper the progress that we were all having with our new relationship.

    I ordered an online test for $400.00. Small price to pay for a big lie i had made up. The test came a week later, I swabbed her and myself, and then promptly mailed the swabs and his swabs to him, so that he could mail them off to the lab. A few days later, I got the results in. They said that he was not the father. I was devistated. I called him sobbing uncontrollably, and WOW he shocked me. He said “Don’t worry about it”. She looks just like my niece when she was her age, there is no way that she is not my baby. I knew that he had no way of telling whether or not I had sex with anyone else but, I knew that I hadn’t. He was the only person I had slept with in a 6 month time span. I’m smart enough to know I’m not the virgin Mary, So that just tells ya, He’s the dad. I did some research on the company. GTLDNA. They had a horrible track record, for giving out the wrong results. They are a lab that is located on a college campus. Which means yes, students, the ones out partying all night and putting underwear on their heads, are yes, doing my DNA testing. I was infuriated at myself for not checking in on it prior to wasting my money. I Agreed to fly my daughter and myself to see him and take another test.

    I ordered yet another test online, I did some research and thought I had found a decent company. DNA Diagnostics Center. They had a doctor’s office do the swabs (a receptionist) they didnt wear gloves, and I wasn’t impressed with their cleanliness of the facility, but we proceeded anyway.

    The new test came back. they had checked different markers, and still said that he was not her father. I was horrified. He called me and gave me the news. i cried and sobbed. I was mortified. To this day I still cry over the outcome of those results.

    However, I did some more research. I’d like to share it with you. Firstly. DNA is not a 100% accurate test. You will never get a 100%. Secondly. the alleles that they use to determine parentage vary. Things they do not tell people are, they test 16 markers on average, there are over 33,000 markers that they can use to test paternity. Secondly. NO DNA TESTING LAB is looked over by the Federal Government. Some of these labs are in basements, and there is no quality control. If you have enough cash, you can have your own genetic testing lab yourself for about 5 grand. The Government has no standards and no testing for these companies to assure that they are doing to tests correctly. Thirdly. There are labs that are located all over that were caught giving out any answer they wanted, just to rake in money. There are documented court cases, where they were investigated for sending people to jail for 20-30-40 years and they never even tested the samples. Fourth. They fail to tell you how many times any company has given a wrong answer. Most people don’t even fight their answer because we are brainwashed into thinking that the test is 100%. Its not. They state in bold print 99% positive or 100% negative reading. Well guess what. out of the markers that matched well over half were matches on our dna tests. When I entered our test scores into an online DNA calculator, It said that he could NOT be excluded! Which means he is very well possibly her father! I know he is, but i need to prove that to him! Fifth. There are these things called DNA mutations. They have no scientific study that decides how often these different alleles mutate. He is MILITARY. The vaccines that MILITARY members are given will mutate DNA. Sadly to say. The DNA labs will never acknowledge these things. They would lose their money makers, you and me. They don’t give out all the info, and it leaves us looking like we are liars, stupid, money grubbers, and worse. It ruins your self esteem, it puts you in a state of depression and it makes things hard for everyone involved! We need to stand up to DNA testing and make them disclose ALL of the facts. What are the mutation rates. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING FALSE REPORTS???? No one will ever find an article on that!

    I hope this helps some of you ease your minds. If i hadn’t gone throught this process myself, I wouldnt have belived it either~!

    Take care and Best wishes everyone

  • http://msn christina

    Oh Crystal, My test was done in Cali.

  • stacey

    hi, i took an dna test through labcorp recently. the fatehr lives in missiouri and i live in arkansas. the test came back that it was negative. i am so depressed. the baby looks just like him. the other guy couldn’t have kids because of the heavy drug use he did. i mean the guy would smoke weed when he wake up, most of the day, and then before he goes to sleep. he smoke every single day. he went to an doctor who told him he wouldn’t be able to have kids. i have heard that dna test cannot be wrong, but i think in my case it is. i am going to get the other guy tested just in case. another thing, i went through child support. when i went down there the room was soo pack. i think my number was like 37 ( i know it was in the 30s). i was wondering if it could be wrong because like i said before, she looks just like the guy i got tested. she looks nothing like the other guy. also if this will help, i am black, and the two guys are white. the guy i got tested has dark brown hair, and dark gray eyes. the other guy has bright red hair and green eyes. i have black hair and drak brown eyes. someone please help me.

  • stacey

    oh btw, my baby has dark brown hair with dark brown eyes

  • Jenni

    Hi Stacey,

    http://strwatch.com/PIcalc.aspx

    That’s the link for the calculator. Hope it helps!

  • Danielle

    OMG! Where was this site in 2001, I have been looking and looking. My test was done by the state and I know it was wrong, I thought I was the only person in the world, and I am now in the process of getting a lawyer but it is refreshing to know I’m not Mary from the Bible (LOL). It was done by labcorp and it has been 9yrs and enough is enough. I was wondering if we could do a class action and bring this situation to the light b/c i know my results once done correctly will read he’s the father. I’m thinking OPRAH, this can potentially ruin your life and your sanity..Major depression b/c you don’t know where to turn. I am so happy I found you all………

  • Crystal

    My test was also done through the state. The swabs were sent to Lab Corp. in NC also. As I said before there is something going on at this lab. There is way to many people coming forward saying their results were inaccurate. This has affecting my life in so many ways. It makes me sick to think my daughters dad is being selfish and putting me through this. My daughter is the one that has a right to know her dad and because of his selfish reason he will not take another test. I have to hire an attorney I’m in the process of that but it is going to be hard because I’m raising my daughter on my own. Again I have said before this site has given me strength and is truely a GOD SENT to me.. I wish everyone the best of luck I know I have a long road ahead of me and it seems like every direction I go I get pushed down. I’m emotionally exhausted and somedays I struggle to get through the day. It KILLS me to know that test was WRONG and that I have to fight to prove that. I look at my daughter and she looks just like him. I have said before if you compare pics of them there would be no reason to do a test. I think this is the hardest thing I have ever faced in my life. I hope and wish the best for everyone. If anyone has any suggestions for me let me know. If I find out any information I will also let you all know.. Thanks!

  • joseph

    Hello All i see that most of you are women on here claiming the test were wrong. I guess most men dont care so much to find out. Well i am here to find out any information i can on GTLDNA home test kits. I see several people here used them claim they are wrong but never repost please if you are still reading this and have had a secound test done and it came up differant let me know. I had a test done with a boy well young man now who is 19 and all his life he was told i was his father as was I. We didnt have any type of relationship do to the fact his mother and i didnt speak at all and he was basically adopted out before he was one.
    Well to make a long story short we have finally met and we had a test done it came up negative 0% possability.
    I know he is crushed as I feal horrible also he is a great young man. His mother also swears to myself and him i was the only one and wants us to take another test im ok with that just dont have the money to be throwing away everytime i get results she dosnt agree with.
    Please if anyone has done a test with GTLDNA and had wrong results with proof they are wrong post i will greatly appreciate it.

    Thank you,
    Joseph

  • James

    I have a crazy situation….I hope I’m wrong! I feel with everything in my being and my intution is never wrong, most of the time, that my son isn’t mine..We had a DNA done and it says I’m 99.whatever the father, but he looks , acts, nothing like me? He looks like…..I’m can’t even say…it disgusts me…..Let’s just say this other young man…to the T!!!!His mom acts like she’s hiding something, and this other man acts like he’s upset most of the time…..Oh did I mention we all live together……What did I get involved with here?

  • jozefvit

    James that is a crazy situation you got yourself in the only real advice i can give is to have another test done. Im not sure if you did it online or what but just you doing it at all shows you have real dobts. when it comes to a infant or very young child i beleive the only way to get a test is go to a lab i know it is a lot more cash but you must do it. There is was to much at stake for you to do a online test. What im trying to say is this child is now your responibility untill he or she is 18 or even older. Not just money but everything emotionally it is your job to take care of the child.
    One more thing i would like to mention dont do this only for you but for the child all children have the right to know there real father and there are cases the mother’s are to cought up in lies to ever tell the truth or the fathers are just worthless. Well i hope this helped i will pray for you.

    Joseph

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    Genelex has been providing paternity testing for over 20 years. There are a handful of reliable experienced labs that provide analysis beyond the bare minimum requirement.

    Here are some important questions to consider when choosing a paternity testing lab:

    Is the lab AABB Parentage Testing Committee accredited for DNA parentage testing?

    Do the customer service representatives answer all of your questions and make you feel comfortable with every step of the testing procedure?

    Does the paternity testing lab adhere to any other quality assurance standards?

    Does the lab offer the payment and testing options that you need?

    If the test is being performed for legal purposes, does the lab have a history of high legal acceptance?

    How many genetic markers are examined? What testing quality assurance measures are in place?

    1. Is the lab AABB Parentage Testing Committee accredited for DNA parentage testing?
    AABB accreditation follows an intensive review and inspection of laboratory policies and procedures by the Inspection and Accreditation Committee of the Association, and establishes that the level of technical and administrative performances within the DNA Identity Testing Laboratory meets or exceeds the standards set by the AABB. Only 48% of paternity testing labs have this accreditation. If you obtain paternity testing from a lab without this accreditation; the results may not be reliable or acceptable for legal purposes.

    Genelex has been AABB accredited for DNA parentage testing since 1992. You can view a list of all accredited labs at the AABB web site.
    If a lab is not listed, they are not accredited.

    2. Do the customer service representatives answer all of your questions and make you feel comfortable with every step of the testing procedure?
    DNA paternity testing is often an emotional issue for the parties involved. Make certain that the representatives you deal with listen to, understand and address your needs. Genelex staff will explain our paternity testing services and procedures in language you can understand. We’ll track your case and keep you informed of your progress every step of the way. Click here to see what other customers have to say about us.

    3. Does the paternity testing lab adhere to any other quality assurance standards?
    Ask the lab what other quality assurance programs they have in place especially if you will be using the results for legal reasons. Results from a laboratory with more than one type of quality assurance in place have a history of high courtroom acceptance.

    Genelex is one of only a handful of paternity labs that also has New York State Department of Health and CLIA medical test site accreditation. In addition, Genelex has completed more than forty external proficiency tests by the College of American Pathologists and Collaborative Testing Services and hundreds of blind tests as required by our convicted offender DNA databank contracts.

    4. Does the lab offer the payment and testing options that you need?
    Be certain that the paternity testing lab you are dealing with offers the options you need. Many labs on the internet only offer home tests which are not considered legally binding. If you are obtaining a test for any other reason than peace of mind, be sure to obtain a fully documented paternity test.

    A standard paternity test is performed with samples from the alleged father and child; the mother’s sample is helpful but not required. If you are in need of a more complicated parentage test, be certain that the laboratory you are dealing with has experience in this area.

    Many people are on a budget and may not be able to afford the entire fee at one time. If this is a consideration, always ask about the payment options available.

    Genelex offers the widest spectrum of parentage tests available including DNA home tests, fully documented, motherless testing, prenatal paternity testing, CVS (chorionic cillus sample) testing, kinship analysis, sibship analysis, newborn or umbilical cord testing, and deceased paternity testing. We also have extensive experience with non-standard samples such as old blood stains, bones, toothbrushes, and used kleenex. In addition we accept all major credit cards, checks, money orders, checks-by-phone, and cash. We offer a convenient payment plan and financing options.

    5. If the test is being performed for legal purposes, does the lab have a history of high legal acceptance?
    The acceptance of DNA testing varies from state-to-state. (For more information on DNA testing decisions in your state, see our book DNA in the Courtroom: A Trial Watchers Guide at http://www.genelex.com/paternitytesting/paternitybook.html In order to ensure that the results of the test will hold up in court; ask the lab for specific examples of their courtroom testimony and acceptance record. Ask if their testing has ever been ruled inadmissable.

    Genelex testing has held up under Supreme Court Review and was key to the settlement of the widely publicized $800,000,000 Larry Hillblom Estate. Our paternity DNA testing and testimony has been used to resolve cases involving child support and child custody, immigration, insurance, inheritance, intellectual property, and serious criminal charges.

    6. How many genetic markers are examined? What testing quality assurance measures are in place?

    Genelex tests are 100 to 1000 times more discriminating than the industry standard. We test 16 markers including the 13 CODIS markers utilized by the FBI vs. the 8 to 10 tested in most labs and verify the sex of all tested individuals to assure you of reliable results. The more markers that are examined the higher the probability of paternity. The generally accepted inclusion percentage is 99% or 100 to 1, with 16 markers our typical inclusion rates exceed 99.999% or 100,000 to 1 for cases in which the mother, child , and father are tested. Additionally, we run all exclusions twice to confirm 100% exclusion.

  • Ky

    I also had 2 tests done at GTL DNA and they both came back the same but my son looks like the other guy. I feel in my heart that it is his son, but 2 tests from GTL say he is not… Please post any comments about GTL being wrong.

    THank you

  • Linda

    Hello everyone! I just got results to a DNA test that excluded the father. I don’t believe the test results because I was married at the time of conception and my husband was away for about 6 months. The man tested was the only man I was with during the time my husband was away. I know it sounds wrong, but believe me, my husband was no saint. Anyway, I am so shocked by the results. I used GTLDNA. Has anyone received wrong test results from this company? I am in total disbelief. My brother also had a test done through the same lab used by GTLDNA, but used a different company. His test was negative as well, and he also does not believe it. I called him up this morning and he and I compared test results. Both of our tests read that the child and father shared 7 genetic markers in common, which we find strange. Both of us tested without the mother. If anyone thinks their test results are wrong and would like to compare test results, please respond to my comment. I will be paying close attention to this blog. I’m sorry to everyone suffering because their test results may be wrong. Maybe if we communicate we can figure this out.

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    I recently had a paternity test done through GTLDNA the results came back 0% with 8 similar genetic markers as of most of yours. I am very broken up about this. I did sleep with two men around the same time. One is white with black hair and blue eyes, the other half BLACK with green eyes. My son has black hair and blue eyes and is WHITE but GTLDNA said the one man tested (white male) was not his father. You can begin to think how mad I am. I need to know if anyone else has had wrong results with GTLDNA… I don’t want to go to court please please please let me know if GTLDNA is wrong… The fact that college students do the testing also makes me REALLY mad this is peoples life’s not a learning experience!!!!!!

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    Just to keep everyone up dated I was looking for information on paternity testing and came across this :

    Basic Genetic Information: The issues any lab can have with a motherless DNA test are as follows: Mothers give a child half of their DNA and a father gives the child half of their DNA. Each person has two numbers at each marker. One number comes from the mother and one from the father. We do not know which number comes from which parent without have that parent’s DNA to match it to. Without the mother’s DNA helpfully completing half of the genetic puzzle, we are testing all of the child’s DNA against the male verses just half, which would have been matched to the mother. Therefore, including the mother will provide much more conclusive results. However, sometimes there are very rare genes in both the child and father and this can boost a test result and make it much stronger even if the mother is not included. For more information about how DNA testing works and why it’s important to include the mother:

    this is VERY important since most of us tested with out the mother!!!!! if anyone retests because of this please let me know!!

  • joseph

    Everyone here or who comes accross this site has to go to the link that molly provided http://www.newmexicoandsouthwestcolorado.bbb.org/Business-Report/The-Genetic-Testing-Laboratories-Inc-44658. GTL is a bunch of scammers read this and read all of them there are several cases here where they were wrong even told one lady that her child wasnt her’s and also states that the test done thats not the legal one is done without supervision. Also told the lady that her daughter had a blood problem and had no idea why her test came out negative. I cant beleive they do this to people destroy the lives of so many for the allmighty dollor. PLEASE go to link and read all complaints.

  • ki

    Hello everyonel,

    My 3 month old daughter’s father did an at home DNA test without my knowlege I didn’t believe the results because the results were an zero parentage index. We took another test at an labe in NC the samles were sent to Ohio.Would the tech used the genteic marks from the first test (from any lab test now )listed on the form in NC or could the sample been contamimated. Any help/advice would be helpful because wee scheduled for court in a few days. I feel like my child looks like this guy. Its just I feel so depressed and I am sure my family and friends are sick of me talking about it. Someone please respond!!!!!

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    MOLLY AND LINDA PLEASE READ!!!!

    molly I was just reading the online journal that you left the link for. Under PCR it says DNA has conserved (the same for everyone)is this maybe why we all have 7 out of 15 genetic matching markers and this is why we all have the same results???? I’m going to look into this … let me know if you find something!

  • ki

    Hello everyone,

    Jordan thank so much for responding to me…I wanted everyone to take the time to look at there results again. If by chance the fathers markers have a single number in the Allele column(these are called identical homozygous
    ) The homozygous could be null and would be hidden by the dominate gene. 2 could cause a 18% reading exclusion and 5 could cause a 40% exculsion. If the lab did not chance the percent from the average population. If anyone finds out anything else please let me….I hate feeling CRAZY!

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    Hey all, no new posts from me waiting for the second GTL test in the mail.. I’ll keep you posted I’m interested to see if the babies DNA matches the first test!!! Hope all of you are doing well!!!!!! Just know I’m thinking of you all!!! any breaking news??

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    Hey Ladies! just to keep you posted the second GTL test came in the mail. I’ll be testing him tomorrow (if he shows). So we should have some answers to our questions by late next week!! keep your fingers crossed !!!

  • Crystal

    Hello Everyone,
    I have posted on here before and I get an updated email when anyone posts a new comment. My situation is different from some of you because I got my DNA test through Lab.Corp. in NC. I just wanted to say that I read all of your post and it amazes me because I’m going through the same thing. I have been told I need to hire an attorney to force my daughters dad to take another test. My life has been a nightmare and I feel so HELPLESS everyday. I struggle to get through my day because I know without a shadow of a doubt that my daughter is his. It kills me that my daughter doesn’t have her dad in her life because of a mistake that was made on a dna test through a lab that has a history of this. Lab Corp has made my life a living heck and they could give a careless. I don’t really have the money to hire an attorney because I’m taking care of my daughter on my own. I know this is my daughter’s future and I have to find some way to make this right.
    I’m so thankful there is this site because I don’t know what I would have done without it. When results came back my whole world came crashing down on me and I felt so alone and people looked at me like I was crazy. This site has given me strength and when people talk about how they feel I totally understand because I’m right there with them. It’s tough to face everyday knowing there was a mistake and not being able to just get another test done. I wish you all the best and if you have any ideas or suggestions for me please let me know.God Bless!

  • Ann

    I am going through the same thing right now…
    The test came back excluding the father of my baby…(I KNOW she is his)!!! I have medical documentation stating the exact date of conception and had three high tech ultrasounds to confirm it.
    My test was done through the county who work with Labcorp…and needless to say when this result came back…it shattered our lives…
    He walked away from me and from his baby who is now 9 months old. He firmly believe that the test is right…but I think he still knows in his heart deep down that she IS his. We both know it…but hearing and seeing those results were devestating. I mean…how can a DNA test be wrong??? How is that possible??? We put our faith…lives…and future in these technitions hands…and they go and destroy it??
    So here I sit with my baby…alone…completely alone…and he has walked away thinking I LIED to him about all this….and that is what hurts the most. His life has moved on…he has a new girlfriend and he can just walk out of our lives and believe the test….but I KNOW…I KNOW 100% that he IS her father. Here’s the thing…when he left….he didn’t even try to understand what i must be going through right now…I am just as hurt and just as shocked as he is..but all he seems to think is that I lied to him.
    He never wants to see me…never wants to speak to me…and that hurts….but I see him everyday….everyday I look into my daughters eyes.
    Luckily we are having another test done…any suggestions on what to request or additional tests I should have done. I will pay whatever I need to pay until my daughter and her daddy…(her wonderful daddy)…are reunited again. He is a wonderful man and he was always here for me…through it all…even though in the beginning there was a little question about the date of conception…but once the doctors confirmed it…(through 3 different ultrasounds)…well he was he by my side the rest of the time. I was so mean though at times..cause I was pregnant and very emotional…and he would respect that..but now…I cant even imagine what he thinks of me?? He thinks I put him through hell for nothing!!
    This company has ruined my life…
    I will prove this test was wrong…and do everything in my power to bring a lawsuit against them for undue mental stress. This is our LIVES they are messing with!!! Are they doing it on purpose so we have to pay again to do another test…is that the catch???
    Prayers needed
    To you all…Gob Bless

  • Linda

    Hi Molly, Jordan, and Everyone! I have not been on here in a while. I have been reading everyone’s recent comments from my email inbox, though. I’m sorry that I have not stopped by to post anything but I am just so drained from all of this. I am even starting to believe that maybe I was with someone else, even though I know I wasn’t. It’s crazy! Unlike most of your children, my son is already 12 years old. My ex-husband has always recognized him as his son, as well as the rest of the world, but him and I both knew that there was a very big chance that he wasn’t biologically his. He even mistreated him and kidnapped him for over a year, at one point. I was always afraid to tell the man that I believe is his father because of fear of rejection. Well, to make a long story short, my ex-husband passed away about two years ago (motorcycle accident) and now my son (and 14 year old daughter) have no dad. I started talking to the man I believe to be my son’s father over a year ago and we became good friends, so I finally dared to ask him to take a paternity test. I asked him a few years back, but what happened then is not really important. Anyway, that is when the results came back negative. I was so nervous that I tried to prepare myself and the father for the possibility of a negative result but I felt deep down inside that it would be positive. It makes complete sense that it would be, not only because my son resembles him, but because my husband was away on deployment at the time of conception.

    But, when I received the test results my heart dropped to my stomach and I felt so sick. I wanted to throw up. I couldn’t even hold back my tears. I couldn’t believe it. I looked at it over and over. It’s been really hard for me. I left him a voice message with the result, I didn’t even want to talk to him. I felt so dumb. But I still refused to believe it. In my mind, and in my heart it just can’t be right that he is not the father. It’s not like I can even test my ex husband now that he has passed. To make things worse, his “possible” father won’t even talk to me anymore. I don’t know if some of this has something to do with it, but I know in most part he won’t talk to me because of the problems with my current boyfriend. He must really think that I made it all up. That’s how I feel. I can’t even ask him for another test cause he’ll probably laugh in my face.

    If I had proof that someone else had a negative test, then I would have something to show him that his test was “probably” wrong. I honestly don’t even believe in my own memory anymore. Everyone seems to believe that I must want him to be the father so bad that I am making myself believe that he is. I even looked through old things and letters that my ex husband used to send me and came across one that was written around the time of conception, when my ex husband was on a cruise. I only cheated with that one person, so how could my son not be his? I don’t understand it.

    Anyway, I’m sorry for this long story. I am just trying to let it out because I can’t even talk to anyone else about this. My boyfriend doesn’t even want the subject mentioned. It really hurts to have to hold this all in.

    I wish you all the best and hope that if someone does re-test, that they post the results. Whether they are different or the same. I really need to know if there is anyone out there that can prove that these companies are just making up results or not caring if they make mistakes, or if they are right and we are all just wanting to believe in something that isn’t true. Thank you all for reading.

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    hey ladies!! just read all the new posts and wanted you to know I was thinking of you…. the other tests results should be here any day…….I will keep you posted!! God Bless!!

  • Ann

    Hello everyone…
    I totally empathize with all of you…as I know we are all in the similar situation.
    I have decided at this point (and its still very early…only 3 weeks since I found out the results) that I am going to let this go for now.
    I need to pick myself up off the ground and move on with my life. Last night my ex actually emailed me and what he had to say to me…was so mean…but so true. He pointed out that he was here through it all and he didn’t need to be…and I guess if I was in his situation and the test came back showing he was not the father…I would be just as mad and hurt as he is right now.
    I don’t blame him for feeling that way…he has every right to feel like he was betrayed…like I lied to him…like the doctors lied to him….but the truth of the matter is…I DIDN’T.
    At this point he hates me and wants NOTHING to do with me EVER again. He is looking back on our relationship and remembering all the negative things…so it is easier for him to move on and not look back.
    So last night it finally hit me…all I wanted was for him to talk to me…and now that he did…I am ready to let go.
    The process will still continue. The other person will be tested…and when he is excluded…months down the road my ex will finally be re-tested and this nightmare will be over.
    I find my strength now by not thinking about it as much as I was during the last couple weeks. I have a beautiful baby girl…and he was here from the beginning…and we once loved eachother very much…so I will forever be thankful and fortunate for that…but if he wants to walk away then there is nothing I can do to change his mind.
    Yes, I do wish he would take the test again voluntarily so this nightmare would end in threes weeks instead of three months…but my life will continue on.
    I do believe in God…and I do believe everything in life happens for a reason…so right now…my faith is going to rest in him. I will take comfort and NOT worry or cry over this anymore. I know in my heart my ex is her dad…and even if he wasn’t (which I don’t believe that) it doesn’t take sperm to be a father. He was here from day one…and if he wanted to be here now he could…but I cant force him to do anything he doesn’t want to do.
    Right now he has moved forward and trying to put this nightmare behind him and instead of being vindictive (as I sometimes am) I will pray that he finds strength and that he does find the love and happiness he deserves.
    After all…his heart must be hurting right now just as much as mine…if not MORE. DNA tests are not suppose to lie…so when he saw he was excluded…it was his “RIGHT” to turn and run the other way.
    So I guess what I’m saying is…I’m not on here to “BASH” him because he truly is a good man and a wonderful father to his other children…
    I’m only writing this to give any of you who need it or want it….”STRENGTH”
    For now I can only let go of him…I need to just let go of everything for my own sanity.
    The wait will be hard…but it will be easier now that I have closure with him.
    When the test comes back showing he is the father…I will welcome him back into our lives with open arms…only because this was NOT his mistake…this was LabCorps mistake.
    In the end…I believe we will all turn out as a happy, loving, RICH family.
    So I will wait…but I will not stand still. My life will go on…and in the end…the truth will be reveled.
    Right now I am giving my heart to God…and with his loving arms wrapped around me and holding me tight…I know I will make it through this storm.
    So to all of you….try try try to STAND STRONG…
    Find your faith…(TRUST ME…IT’S CLOSER THAN YOU THINK) and pray pray pray.
    I will continue to pray for you all and hope that someday…all our hearts will be filled with peace…and eventually the TRUTH will be shown
    And…Labcorp will be held responsible for these horrible mistakes that continue to destroy the lives of innocent people.

  • ann

    Jordan,
    I just wanted to say “thank you”….
    I have to say…I was feeling a little weak today as I was told my ex updated his facebook profile picture with a picture of him and his new girlfriend…for all his family and friends to see…and not to mention me.
    My heart just sank…I literally got sick to my stomach…and pretty much sat around and cried all day long. It was a LONG…SAD…HARD day….but after many tears were cried…I realized that I am glad I officially know he has moved on. As much as it truly hurts…I had to see it for my own eyes.
    After I put my daughter down…I logged on and saw your posting Jordan…and after feeling emotionally drained all day long…I instantly felt refreshed and was able to “HEAR” the message you “heard” in my prior posting. It gave me strength and made me remember…even though the days will be tough…I am certainly thankful for this beautiful baby girl I have from him.
    When the test comes back three months down the road proving he is her father and the lab results were wrong…he is going to be the one who is hurting because instead of being here for his daughter…he just turned his back and ran immediately to another woman. However hard that may be to forgive…The good person in me will still forgive him because I want him to be a part of his daughters life.
    I think it is great that we have this support system…obviously there are going to be days when it is hard to bare and we may just sit and wonder…how can he just walk away…how can he just move on and forget that little baby when he’s been here from day one…how can he just run into another womans arms to forget the pain?? I just dont understand but I guess that’s not for ME to understand. As Jordan said…I will put my faith in GOD…and pray that he will guide me through
    If he doesnt want to be here…then I cant make him. He has moved on so it is time I attempt to move on also. He as “accepted” the results and has no desire to take the test again…so I guess I will wait and we will go the legal direction and find out three months down the road.
    In the meantime I will try to remember your advice Jordan…there are plenty of awesome sweet caring men out there who are willing and open to be with a woman who has children. All it takes is the “Right” guy to come your way….and who knows…he could be “THE ONE”…”Your Soulmate”….the answer to the reason all this happened. Maybe God is telling us that the man who walked out of our lives is not closing the door for us….but is opening the door to our future.
    I struggle daily (as you can see in my postings) with my emotions. One day im strong the next im weak…then i love him..then i cant stand him…one minute I want him here…the next minute im glad hes gone….
    All I know is this: I want this test done…ASAP…so I can close this chapter in my life and open the door to a new life. I feel like im at a stand still right now…and I just continue to pray he will take the test voluntarily so all this can be resolved in 3 weeks instead of 3 months.
    Anyway…Jordan…YOU are my strength…Today you saved my heart from breaking more than it already was…and helped heal it by your wonderful words of wisdom. Sorry the post was SO LONG…it was a crappy day:-(
    Thank you Jordan and everyone else…God Bless…and my prayers and with you all

  • ann

    Sorry for the typo….
    I meant to say
    God Bless…and My prayers ‘ARE’ with you all :-)

  • http://www.genetrack.com sqeek

    hi everyone, i live in the UK and have recently had a DNA done on my son with his father …but tests came back saying he was not the father…i am gobsmacked to say the least…and so is he…..we went through genetrack.. has anyone used them????????? i know he is the father…we both want another DNA…help

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    Ladies –

    It seems like this is the end of the road for me. The test results came back 99.99% that man #2 is my sons father. Molly, I checked the two samples of DNA for my son from both tests and they match to a T. I just want all of you to know I’m still going to be checking this site now and then, it gave me so much hope and I feel a bond with all of you. Something I am not able to find anywhere else. I guess this goes to prove you can’t judge a book by its cover, my son still looks like man #1 but hes DNA says other wise. I wish you all the best and wanted to tell you not to give up!! Just because my tests results don’t prove our theory, doesn’t mean it isn’t possible! Unlike most of you I knew it was possible from the start. Stick to your guns!!! If you believe the results are wrong FIGHT IT!!! I will be here cheering you on. As for me, I need to be the best mother I know how to be!! I need to put this all behind me and look to the future! There is the sun on the other side of this cloud and I feel it is my son! I will always be here for all of you and know that no matter how far we are from each other, you are all still in my prayers and thoughts. I wish you all the best and ladies enjoy your children they truly are a gift from GOD. xoxox Jordan

  • http://LabcorpsInaccurateDNAResultsin2009 Chamirra Shaw

    I had my test done through the state and the results were sent to Laborps, in North Carolina. We didnt take our test at the same the time and we was suppose too. When the results came back excluding him I was wondering could a paternit testing lad gives out the wrong results. I went to the child suppot agency and I told the caseworker I wanted a restest and he gone compare the pictures and tell me that I cant and I have to claim someone else to take a paternity test. I was upset but I didnt get rude with him because I know that he is the father of my child. They look just alike and I know he knows that is his child. I hired an attorney to retake the test for me so when I get another lab to test the child and the father again I will be glad to let everyone cause I know how everyone is feeling and I know deep in my heart that he is my child father cause at the time he was the only one I was talking too. But if anyone can give me some advice I will surely appreciate it cause I see I am not the only person complaining about Labcorps. They really need to get a grip and than when I called to ask about my results they were so rude and you they suppose to have good customer service and I dont’t recommend anyone to get tested with that company….

  • ki

    Hey Everyone,

    I went to court today…so I’ll let you know it man 2 is the father.

    Best wishes.

    XOXO
    Ki

  • Denise

    Hello to all. My Husband had a DNA that was sent to labcorp NC location. This was a court ordered test in Florida. When he had the test done they didn’t have him brush his teeth before the test. They just swab his cheek. The test was sent to labcorp NC and the results where back in less than two weeks. I’m sad to say that the results came back positive. My question is can food and smoking before a test interfere with the results? And is it possible two get the results back that soon?

  • jim

    yes a class action lawsuit against LabCorp sounds good I have proof my court ordered paternity test with labcorp of america in NC on 01-13- 2005 is wrong
    THE PROOF is The declaration of chain of custody report that i received in the mail about 30 days after i received the test results from the state of washingtons family court not labcorp received test results from the state of washingtons family court too. photo of the tested mother and child in the chain of custody report (not a vary good copy of photo )shows NOT 21/2YEAR OLD BOY BUT 6 OR 7YEAR OLD GIRL ( mothers daughter). i know for a fact am not the mothers daughters father daughter already has a court ordered father. .(i was never married to the mother ) 4 or 5 night stand when she picked me up in a bar we had been friends in high school and she dated my twin brother about 10 years back. 3 years later i get served with the paternity action.

  • faith

    Has anyone used a company called R U My Kid (DNA Testing Laboratory) in OH?
    We did a home test with Mother, Father, and Child. The Father was found to be a positive match, but he believes it is inacurrate, because they only tested 8 markers. We are wondering if we should re-test.

  • Dee

    Does anyone have any information about identigene? I too has a child who looks just like her father and Identigene gave him 0.1% and I dont believe it. I can relate to a lot of your stories. After a man is given that type of news he teats you like your nothing and makes you feel like a liar and so low of yourself even though you know your telling the truth and that isnt enough for him. This man is destroying my self-esteem and its killing me. Does anyone know where the court DNA tests are sent. I hope they’re accurate…

  • stacey

    Hi, i was wondering if anybody had any updates. It is so hard to function because I know that the first guy is the dad. My baby look so much like the first guy. Do anyone have any updates? Please help me. I keep coming on here to look for some ray of hope. Have anyone gotten an second guy tested?

  • Amanda

    I am an adult child who was recently tested to determine if the father I have known about for the last 20 years is really my biological father. His parents wanted it done for legal purposes and to “start including me as part of the family.” My mother and I went to one LabCorp and my father’s parents went to another LabCorp (my father was unable to test as urgently as the family was requesting). Needless to say, the test came back that they are not my grandparents and he is not my father. I have looked over the results a million times and I match at least one grandparent on 11 out of 13 areas. I have the same blood type as my dad (my mom’s is different) and she swears he is my father. This has caused a lot of pain. My dad and I decided to test the system and bought a home kit at Walgreens last week. We performed the test at his house and I placed it in the mail so we both know that no one tampered with it prior to reaching the lab. I am awaiting the results now. I will check back once I get them and let you know what happens. This was a horrible experience for me and I can only hope that the new lab is able to confirm he is my dad and we can go on continuing our lives. He wants to be my dad and was happy not taking a test all these years. Because his family is wealthy, they pushed for the test so they could include or exclude me from inheritance. People suck….and innocent people suffer because of it. I wish you all luck in your challenges with the dna system.

    • Russ

      It doesn’t make a difference if you did one of the test kits! If the state is in the wrong doing, they are well aware of a person trying to get truthful results that way and it will come back saying the same thing unless the system has forgotten all about you and sorta took their hands and eyes off you…it may work!! Other than that you have to find a way to get the FEDS involve (where its causing the FEDS to hand out supprt for a child)

  • Jim

    I just got back results from gtldna.com that shows I’m not my almost one year old daughter’s father, with 0% probability from 7 of 13 mismatched alleles. I’ve been devastated by this, as I was convinced the child was mine. My wife and I had been in counseling, as I suspected an affair, but this came as a total surprise. What’s worse, we have a five year old son, so I am worried about two children, so just walking out of the situation doesn’t seem viable. Certainly it’s not in the interest of the children.
    Based on the discussion here, I’ve gotten an Identigene kit to do a retest. Not that they sound better, but at least it’s a second test. I’m over 50, so I wonder if the issues of mutations could create a potential negative result. I’ve resisted a formal, “legal” test, as I’m not sure what the right answer is for me if these results are correct. No one yet knows these results by me.
    Can I raise this child as my own? is that in her best interests? She’s still my son’s sister. Can I ever trust my wife again? Not that I’m a saint, by any means. I can certainly get over infidelity…but the deception involved to pass off a pregnancy and child as mine seems like a huge betrayal. The counselor and lawyers I’ve consulted encourage me to divorce her promptly.
    Has anyone ever had negative result from gltdna reversed on a subsequent test? How have others dealt with these results when they get them?

  • Dnaielle Smith

    I am stressed about the things that people have to go through beacuse of paternity takers mixes up. I read alot and I feel that everyone needs to take a retest. I know alot of people are devastated and was cause so much hurt. Everyone needs to take a retest and get it all situated

  • Sassy

    Nicole,

    Where did you take your first test?

  • BeBe

    I am in a similar situation. I dated someone for two months during the summer until I learned he was a pot-smoking (and growing!), alcoholic with supposed ties to the mafia (could be all talk). I have seen a very violent side to him (he’s got restraining orders against him, he’s been to prison for attempted murder, etc.) and wanted nothing more to do with him. When I met him, I informed him that I was not on any form of birth control because I am “allergic” to the hormones. I already have 5 children. He swore to me he had a vasectomy (I have proof of his claim in email and text messages).

    The last time I was intimate with this psycho was August 3. I had a period on August 17 (I have approx. 25 day cycles). I was with someone else (an ex) and we were intimate on August 25. I found out I was pregnant on September 11. I took a home test around the 7th, which was negative, and the one on the 11th was positive (which was the day my period was due).

    According to all fertility/ovulation/conception charts & calculators, I should have concieved between the 25th & 28th so my ex and I assumed it was his (and sonograms all confirmed my conception date as did my doctors). However, just to be sure, he paid for a DNA test that was performed when I had my amniocentesis. The results came back that the baby is not his. I totally freaked out. I’ve had 6 sonograms, numerous blood tests and an amnio – and everything adds up that I’m 6 months pregnant – NOT 7 months. But DNA is ALWAYS right, right?!? HA!!!

    Now both men think I’m the crazy one. The man who I’m sure IS the father thinks I’m crazy for suspecting lab error, and the psycho thinks I’m crazy for wanting him to take a DNA test since he’s had a vasectomy. After investing a lot of time and money into it, the psycho has agreed to testing – to get me off his back, I’m sure. I’m sure he will be excluded, but then where does that leave me? I’ll have re-test man #1. The first test was $625, testing psycho man is costing me $450, and I’ve had to pay $395 in court costs requesting he submit to the dna test to begin with. Along with the myriad other expenses (having him served, gas going back and forth to court, etc.), I can see why most people drop the issue.

    I have done a lot of research on the issue and can’t believe how much faith is placed in these tests. I’ve had 9 medical tests that prove my ex IS the father, and only 1 (the dna) that suggests he’s not.

    Even the psycho is SURE there’s no chance he’s the dad… but I’m left to sort out the mess caused by some b.s. dna results. If I can prove that the lab made an error, I fully intend to sue – and ask that the lab notify everyone they performed DNA tests for and offer them re-testing (for free) if that person has reason to believe the lab made an error. I can’t IMAGINE how many children are growing up without their fathers because people think dna tests are infallable – and it’s easier to believe that a woman is lying about her sexual history than that a lab can make a mistake.

    • melliona

      what happend did u retake the test if so let me kknow im going throught the same thing and i do attend to sue this lkab they have caused me so much emtional stress and weight lost over the past 10 months…

  • lisa

    Hello all, I’m in a very similar situation as all of you my daughter was born in sept. 09 and me and my daughters father had a dna test done through the state…it came back in january and it excluded him from being the father! My daughter looks just like him and his family…and I’m so upset as is he…we believe the test is wrong but ofcourse his family is all “dna don’t lie” so now I’m stuck with my hands tied!!! Everytime I look at my daughter I see him…at first he wanted to do another test but he’s letting his family get to him…this whole situation is stressing me out completely…our test was done through labcorp in NC and I’ve tried looking up info on them and can’t really find anything! Our case was dismissed and this is the only site I’ve found were other people are going thru the same thing as I am. I don’t know what to do anymore and everyone thinks I’m crazy because they all think dna is ALWAYS right…which isn’t true
    Anyway
    I hope all of you the best and good luck with retesting

    • Russ

      Its the Lab Techs….Someone is paying off a Lab Tech to falsfy the results! The PHD only signs off on what his so called Lab Tech brings him…Thats why he can wash his hands free when the truth comes out!!!

  • Jennifer

    Hello all,

    It is amazing how many alleged mistakes have been made, however, the follow-up stories conclude that the first tests have been indeed correct. Has anyone here had a second test that showed different (and more desirable results)? Please let me know. I am going through a situation as well but I am starting to believe that I am just in denial. Thanks for any information you all can provide- a little background on my story- ex-boyfriend and his fam took my baby for a paternity test (without me), using GTL by the way. Came back as negative, 10 out of 15 matched and one of his alleles was even reported to be “out of range” whatever that means. This was reported as a notable event on the report as well. I filed for child support in January and we had the court ordered test about two weeks ago. Labcorp in NC will administer the testing (which makes me even more nervous). We will see.

    Jennifer

    • Jennifer

      *****UPDATE*****
      Okay so I received the results back from LabCorp and yes they do state exactly what GTL was saying. He has been exluded, the DNA markers are the same so both GTL and LabCorp match to a tee in the results report. The LabCorps test was ordered by the attorney general so there was a chain of custody established. THe next step is to probably check his picture that the AG office took when he got swabbed just to be sure it was him that was tested and no one else. (Although I doubt anyone would want to take the risk of breaking the law like that). This time only 13 markers were checked (since I was tested as well) and 6 out of 13 did not match. I have accepted this and will be testing man #2 as soon as he comes back from Iraq. I was completely certain that my baby would have been my ex’s since we had an established relationship and well there was more scientific chance that my daughter would be his. Even the AG questionannaire tells you to go ahead and test the most likely father and that is just what I did. So I am completely surprised and somewhat shocked like most of you here, but look it is possible. God works in mysterious ways- and look I am not talking about immaculate conception here but this other man and I were not intimate all the way. It was however, enough for something to get in there, and I was fertile and so came my beautiful baby girl. Keep your head up, just as I am doing and in the long run ladies, it’s not who YOU want as the father, is who the CHILD needs as the father. Good luck to everyone!!

    • Russ

      The states have their hands in all DNA companies! They bribe the Lab Techs to do their dirty work!

  • http://Identigene Sandra

    Could somebody please give me some information on Identigene?

  • LANEK

    …I SEE ALOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT LABCORB AND GTLDNA…BUT HAVE ANYONE HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH IDENTIGENE…I TOOK A TEST WITH THEM..AND GOT A NEGATIVE RESULT..AND MY SON’S FATHER AND I ALONG WITH BOTH FAMILIES KNOW IN OUT HEARTS THAT TS WRONG…BUT WITH THE ACCURACY RATE SUPPOSEDLY SO HIGH..WE’RE ALL HEART BROKEN..WHAT DO I DO?

  • marta

    Lanek, you can always retest by getting a non-legal test done with another lab. If the results are different, you can then for a small fee $25.00 turn it into a legal test that holds up in court. My company
    provides DNA testing and we use 3 diferent labs that only perform DNA testing. We can provide testing in all states as well as International with our network of examiners . We pass our discounts to our clients that we receive. Not all labs that perform DNA are the same as some of you are finding out. Beware of the $79.00 $89.00 testing that you see advertised. You do pay for what you get. Also beware of the mail-in testing, acccuracy is extremly important. Amanda I’m curious as to how your results turned out. Your Paternal grandfather may have not been your fathers biological father hence the markers being off, and your father not being tested @ that time. Hope this helps.

  • Lola

    I just wanted to share my experience with those of you asking about Identigene’s home testing paternity kit. Reading everyone’s stories below really breaks my heart as I know how awful that feeling is as I too received exclusion results for the paternity of my little girl. I wish I’d done research about these places before blindly placing all my trust in some random paper I mailed away for! My situation is about to be retested at a clinic with top scientists who are qualified to make the statistical forensic mathmatics that these paternity tests rely on(especially if the alleged father is of a mixed race or pacific islander mixes) its very important and now that my daughters 2 yrs old I finally worked up the confidence & self pride to do this test right. I’m going to use DDC they are the most accurate labs around and they are informative and helpful in answering your questions over the phone. I’ll keep u all posted but please do NOT rely on Identigene for such a life changing test! You need peace of mind in knowing the truth not the crap they tell you they;ve had numerous false exclusions and false inclusions as well…good luck to all!

    • Russ

      DDC falfied my results twice along with Identigene and Reliagene. Its the LAB TECHS that are getting paid from the state to do these HORRIABLE CRIMES! I’m trying to sue even as we speak!

  • mark

    ok people, wth??? There’s been a ton of people claiming they felt there DNA tests were wrong but not ONE has posted that they retook the test and came it came back different. So that leads me to beleive you are all in denial. Can just ONE person post stating a retest came back different than the first and I don’t mean something you read online I’m mean you personally. Get real people.

    • LadyGangGang

      Love your comment! Bullseye!!!

    • Jordan

      you haven’t read my posts then.. because I did say that…read them and you will see that most of these tests are right I tested 2 men. Both with GTL DNA and the 1 twice once with GTL and the other through court they use Lab Corps.. I was wrong and they were right I thought it was wrong I had proof that it might be.. BBB complaints, scientific journals the whole 9 yards.. but I WAS WRONG !!! The tests I took read the right results if that helps!!!

    • Russ

      I did 5 DNA test with 5 major companies and they all came back stating I cannot be excluded as the father. I later went on dissability and informed SocialSecurity that I don’t believe I am the father of those twins. The launched an investigation and found out I was truthful. I am looking in to this to find out can I sue the DNA labs for what I went thru. Any advise?

    • Russ

      My sixth test came back totally different. It was the one the Federal Gov. did!!!

  • trish

    This last week I took a DNA from GFI. I receive the email that says “He is not the father.” My mother states that it has to be. For the last 32 yrs I believe that this guy was my father. So has anyone heard anything about this company?

  • Britt

    I dated a girl in another country for a couple months. She sent me photos recently of her and a baby. I asked her where the fatyher was and she sais Italy. I got this crazy feeling from GOD that it was mine so I started comparing photos of me and me aa a baby. It is so crazy because it is very similar. I asked her if it was possible that I am the father. She sais she did not know. I have had 3 DNA test that have 4 mismatches out of 16. They tell me I could have had a mutation. I studied mutation causes. Radiation,LSD and ultra violet light can cause that. I did lots of LDS 25 years ago.
    I also did growth hormone and testosterone around the time she and I had sex. The DNA doctor said he does not think so. I am very large 6 foot 7 and the baby has 2 year old clotes at 11 months. We had sex around her ovulation time and she never had her period again after me. The doctor sais the baby was 41 weeks whn borm which points to me.The other alleged father has sex 32 days after we did and there was never another menstrual cycle. Baby was also delivered by C section at 38 weeks because it was large. Most doctors wait longer for C sections. I wonder if the hgh treatment or something caused my DNA to chenge. The girl does not want money either so I just do not get it. Some people also have 2 sets of DNA. I keep thinking about this everyday and I feel it inside ofd me. It saddens me greatly as I was not even looking for a baby but I feel it is my duty in life if it is my son.

  • Patrice

    Hi, i just found out that the father of my two year old is not her father. I know there had to be a mistake. Because there are no other possibilities of another man. My daughter looks just like her brother and have the some of the same charateristic of her father. I was doing some research on if a DNA test could be wrong and i came across many that said it could be wrong that alot of these DNA testing are not accurate and they don’t want you to know that. It also said that if the samples are not taking right the results could be wrong. And this stood out to me is because the lady who did the collecting had us to swabb our own mouth and she told me to make sure that i swabb correctly and i believe that her father did not do it right therefore resulting in an error. I thought that they was supposed to take the sample on their own and not ahve us do it. Well now he don’t want to believe that errors can be made and that its never been shown for a DNA test to be wrong when i read to him word from word from different websites that say the same thing. How do i get him to take it again. BEcause now my daughter is without a father and the sad thing about he don’t believe that he is the only person i sleep with and he know the fact that he got me pregnant on purpose. Now he is turning his back on his daughter because he don’t believe they can make a mistake. Please help me your advice would be greatly appreciated.

  • Harold

    Has anyone ever retested with different results?

  • milliona

    hi i had a test done with the dna dioagnostic center the same pepole murry use on the talk show and they gave me negative reults so what i did i petition friend of corts for the simple facer this lab has had over 11 complaints with bbb they not bbb accredited and they went from a A plus to a b- now a c with my complaint its a devastating thing and thats why i had friend of courts redue test my daughter suffering over this error with the lab and now im mad at my daughters dad he didnt wont to redue test by him signing my daughters birth certificate the judge defullted,his case and now his paying,me child support i know this lab messed up out all complaints the had to do six refunds and out the 11 complaints 6 of them was regurding product and services about nothing 100 percent out here and thats why a second opinion is the best its like when a doc tell u u have cancer but u went to another doc who say they they missed diagnoised u its the same to me a secon opinion is the best thing,…

  • Jordan

    Everyone who is lost –

    About a year ago I gave birth to a wonderful baby boy.. I wasn’t sure who his father was as most of you aren’t. I was in the middle of 2 relationships and hoped dearly that one man would be his father over the other. My son was born with blue eyes and black hair he looked almost identical to one of the men. One was 1/2 black with green eyes the other white with black hair and blue eyes. The one with black hair and blue eyes seemed to be the better of the two so inside I was hoping and praying that he was my sons father. Well I tested with GTL DNA and the results read he was NOT his father. I died inside, thought it was the end of the world. So I was on a mission to prove the test was wrong, I got another GTL DNA test to prove the other guy was NOT his father. Well I was wrong GTL came back that the other man was his father. I still didn’t believe it, so I took him to court and the results came back that it was 22 million to 1 that he wasn’t his father… SO I was proven wrong and GTL was right.. I was really upset I the guy was very hot and cold.. and didn’ t seem like he would be a good father. I was proven WRONG again!!! After court we talked and he started seeing our son more and more.. we got back together and I couldn’t be more happy!! We just put a down payment on a house and are getting married in 2 years. He is everything I wanted him to be and more.. he has proven me wrong time and time again!!! I look back and see my older posts and how upset I was that he was his father. I can’t believe how things have turned out. So I guess this is what I have to say… when your upset, down, think things are so messed up in your life.. just give it time… you never know what the plan is for you.. and you never know.. maybe that guy you hope is the father isn’t and things work out just the way God had them planned for you.. your not alone out there.. there are people who have been through the same stuff you are going through.. read my posts, see my pain and now look at the out come. He is the best dad for the my son, he is his father and would die for his family.. Through all my pain I found love..love for my son and love of a family.. heads up ladies everything happens for a reason!!!!!!! All my love ~ Jordan

    • Chris

      I loved your post on the paternity of your child. Very uplifting and I’m glad you took the time to share. God bless you.

  • DavidLee

    Anyone ever retake the DNA paternity test and the tests are NOT the same?

    • Russ

      I had 5 test done and they all came back the same. The OIG did another one(6) and it came back negitive! Now I am wondering can I sue?

  • maria

    Hello, my son asked me about two years ago about his father , It took me those two to actually decide to take the step and so I decided to go through the attorney general
    after after two appointments and a court hearing with no show on the fathers behalf this man decides to go to a last opportunity meeting before the second hearing and he requests a dna test. They call me and tell me that the father is there putting his part and why didnt i go to the meeting and that the father was requesting dna test. I must of overlooked that appt. But i was aware of the date for the second hearing. The person asks me if i could go on a Monday the fathers dna test was done on Saturday
    and they were sent seperatly the lady said they had already sent it off. I receive no results back and since it was summer I was working overtime and didnt have time to ask about my results I tought they would mail them to me .. And plus i have nothing to worry about. I go to the hearing in August and he was there. they take us to a room where the investigator is at and she hands over the results to him first and tells him heres your results your not the father. I was in complete shock ,because i know this is wrong . Lab Corp is the laboratory where the tests were sent of to and there wrong.I didnt have any sex with anyone else he was my first boyfriend i was 15 years of age when i was pregnant. I dont want to go thru the att. gen because the only do Lab Corp . I have asked some attorneys but all i have heard is negative feedback, not only is humiliating as a woman to go through this but even though my son says he dosen’t care i imagine he is hurting inside. My mind says let it go . because i feel that i never needed that man who refused to be there for him. But my heart tells me to fight for the truth because this unfair for my son .this is wrong. The truth will set you free.

  • annie

    Keep searching for the truth.

    • John

      Annie -
      I’ll keep searching for the truth, and the truth is, she is my daughter no matter what the DNA tests say. I’ll never accept anything other than the fact she IS my daughter… Thanks Annie…

  • John

    I just got back the GTLDNA.com tests back yesterday, and I’m really upset because they say that even thought there are 9 markers that are OK, that 6 are not, that I’m a 0% chance I’m the father of my beautiful adult daughter. She’s also devestated in the test results. I was SO Positive that the results were going to be POSITIVE that we were going to go celebrate on the day we got the results back…
    It turned out to be a very sad day for both of us. I truly believe the test results were either read wrong, or there could be a possibility that the results were affected by the medicines I’ve been taking for pain from a failed back surgery 17 years ago. I’ve been on very powerful pain meds especially, this past year, and on Sept. 30th, 2010, I stopped taking all pain meds cold turkey. I was taking by my doctors prescription, mscontin 60mg extended release twice a day, one in the AM and one at bedtime. Going cold turkey was hard and my Pharmacist told me I would have 48 hours of withdrawals because the mscontin is actually Morphine Sulphate. I told him I was going to stop taking them altogether and I did it!
    The withdrawals were tough. I had nausea, severe diarrhea for 13 hours, and then I had severe leg cramps and pain for the next 15 hours.
    It’s now been 17 days since I went off those pain meds, and I’ve never felt better in my life.
    I’m thinking that since my daughter and I did the GTL DNA test on Oct. 9th, that my chemical imbalance could’ve had an effect on the test. I had a CBC or complete blood work-up done at the hospital just a few days before the DNA test, and my blood work is all out of whack. It came back saying I was dehydrated from the diarrhea, and malnourished. My pottassium levels were extremely low and my doctor said to eat a banana everyday to help with the potassium.
    I truly believe that the test results are wrong because we should have waited until next month when my bodies’ blood chemicals would be normal. I’m only taking a multi-vitamin and a 81mg. baby aspirin, and Neurontin which is a nerve pill that helps my leg pains. I hope someone reads this and responds saying that my chemical imbalance could’ve been the reason the test came back negative.
    I love my daughter very much, and she loves me… I hope I can get some emails because some of your posts give me HOPE; especially Jordan’s, and Ann, Jennifer, BeBe, Danielle, Jim, everyone… I pray that everyone on here can get the real true DNA results… I feel I made a HUGE mistake taking the DNA test so soon after stopping my pain meds… Sorry this is so long, but this is why I believe the test results are wrong. My daughter will always be my daughter no matter what the tests say… Thanks for reading my post.
    God Bless you all and know your in my prayers. Please pray for Carrie and me…
    John in OH

    • Russ

      I recently had 5 DNA test did on a set of twins and all results came back postive. As time went by I became dissable and can no longer work and applied for dissability. I informed the OIG that I strongly feel the kids are not mine that I’ve been supporting for 4yrs. The Federal Government did an investigation and found out I was correct and the children are not mine! ….Can I now sue the 5 DNA companies for false results. It was an inside job! thru the help of the LAB TECHS!!

  • John

    Maria -
    You know for a fact who the father is, so that’s the most important thing. I have read so many times on here about people getting bad negative results like you and me, when we know we’re right and the so called Lab Test are right.
    I did a Google search for GTL DNA Reviews and a page came up about how these DNA tests can be wrong because the people doing the test are not being careful and that they make mistakes because they are rushed.
    In the end, you know the truth.
    God Bless you and your son…
    John

  • Russ

    i had 5 DNA test done by 5 different Labs and they all gave me false results including DDC. I finally got a 6th test did with the help of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT because I’m now receiving temp. dissability. I informed them of the tampering of the previous results. They did test number 6 and it excluded me as the father!! I am looking into suing the LABS…Any advise?

  • Russ

    I have had 5 DNA test done by 5 different Labs! All 5 came back stating I cannot be excluded as the father. Now, I began receiving dissability and I inform socialsecurity that I didn’t believe the kids were mine! OIG launched an ivestigation and proved my theory RIGHT!! I am looking into suing the 5 DNA labs for false results! Any advise?

  • jennifer williams

    Lab Corp did my test twice. The first one had twelve markers the second test had 11 markers. I was only with one guy. There is something fishy about this!!!My son looks just like the guy I had tested. But they say he isn’t the father. i know that i am not a virgin mary!!I got pregnenet some how!!!I didn’t do it by myself!!I am not the type to have multiple partners!!

  • Moe

    My baby’s alleged father and I had paternity done on our 1 year daughter with Maximus in TN. The test came back 0% he is excluded as the father. We were trying to conceive for 4 months and it finally happened. I was with 1 other guy and he also was excluded as her father, I know he is not her father, but I had to test him as well just to be sure. I write everything down in my calendar, as far as my cycle, when I ovulate and who I slept with and when. The timing was off from the 2nd man, so I knew the man I know is her father is. I have talked to him and he is willing to take another test with another company. he has been a great father to my baby, and I just want the truth to be told. My baby looks identical to him, she has his eyes, nose, ears, fingers, ingrown toe nails just like him, it’s just unbelieveable. When I last talked to him, he sounds like he does not want to go thru with the test again, but he will. I guess he dont want to be devastated again….please pray for us, and I will be praying for all of you.

  • Sandra Olson

    i CAN TELL YOU THE STATES ARE INVOLVED. Check out the Katryn Troyer study on dna testing false matches, out of arizona. The Auditor general of Canada has also done 2 audits on the criminal element in the DNA industry, one in 2000 and another in 2007, do you know who they audited? The RCMP. They found so many problems with no regulatory agency, no standards etc and there are no studies done to verify the accuracy rate. The only thing I could find on that is a genetic professor from the US named Jason guildor who admitted that there are no studies, only simulated studies. This claim of accuracy is all just statistics multiplied many times to support what they want it to. And our judicial systems all know this. But they don;t want it to become common knowledge. So, they are getting set to strip me of my charter rights to go to court on this issue, and they have already done so to another victim of this scam in australia, we are being barred from courts completely. In my case, my childs father is asian, I am not, she looks like him, they claim my ex husband, who was sterile is her father, he is not asian either, they claim looks don’t count, I ask, how can you accidently look asian? The law is lying now, and they are trying to protect their own backsides instead of the best interest of the child. I know who my childs father is, his name is Rick Wong. And the tests are just a complete scam. I have also tried repeatedly to get to an examination of the witnesses and their testimony. The courts refuse to allow me to do this, and their lawyer dogs are attacking with such vengence, I can only guess, they hope to destroy me and in the process make sure my daughter does not come back either. When she is 18 she can take this matter to court even if they do ban me from court. If they are lucky, I’m sure they are hoping, they will stop me from digging into this matter. No such luck The standards in criminal forensics are higher then in paternity testing, and they are still getting it wrong there. Look up the sanfransico crime lab issue, SFPD crime lab’s DNA evidence could be tainted by concealed mistakes. And maybe pull up a copy of “THE AUSTRAILIAN”
    Challenge in courts over dna evidence. Right now, the only thing that they have to claim accuracy is “I said so”. I’m sorry, that is not science, and I was there, were you? There are more of us out there then you think. I think we could address this more if we had some sort of class action. To do that we have to find a lawyer willing to take us. Anyone got any idea’s?

  • Patricia farnell

    Well Russ and all you bloggers – many of you seem very naive. e.g. do you believe there is no corrption in family matters? When the wrong sample is used in a DNA test, no error is detectable. The safeguards which are supposed to protect the integrity of the sample tested are not only totally inadequate, they can easily be breached. e.g. A corrupt nsider can easily switch the sample for a false one after the father or whoever wants a false reslt has gone through all the claimed safeguards. The procedures do not protect from insider tampering and do not detect insider tampering. The most common way of getting a false result is by sending someone else’s sample. Where personal presentatin at the collection point is required, an insider first provides the swabs and packaging prior to the test to the person wanting a corruptresult. Usually the father. He signs and seals the false sample with smeone else’s DNA then provides it to the insider prior to presenting for the test. The insider makes an opportunity to switch the false sample with the one provided at the official visit. The scientst doing the test is rarely the one who falsfies it. It is not always the result of corruption by way of payment of money. Men are good at spreading salse heartbreaking stories about why they don’t want to be named os the father and of course there are alawaysnaive staff who wil believe anythig rather than check ther facts.

  • Patricia farnell

    Re a class action – I believe this would be more successful if taken against the Regulator – in Australia where I am this is NATA – but my own research shows they are as corrupt as their members. Politicians still seem not t understand that self regulation of any industry is a recipe for disaster, ie regulators look after their paying members not the public, as with any industry. Despite findings of numerous inquiries, they are misleading politicians etc as regards what is needed to safeguard the integrity of the sample tested. e.g. in drug and alcohol tests a signed sealed spare is given to the parties and a retest can be easily carried out. Everyone out there should also be doing what they can to counteract what the unethical scientists are putting out. That those complaining about error and fudging are trying to discredit the industry and get it closed down. The fact is DNA has huge potential for good if the industry was cleaned up, properly regulated and monitored. The big problem with achieving this is that politicians and media are only listening to the Experts and the industry – they have forgotten the need to listen to the people. If I can assist anyone out there from my own research and current efforts, send me your email address direct as I dont have a lot of time for blogging – prefer direct action with those able to change things. email transparencyinjustice@yahoo.com.au Also there are some lawyers, politicians etc here looking into changes etc. I’ll email these out to anyone contacting me when the finalised version available. Also Ill let you know of some research you can do that might help you prove a test(s) were false; also a letter to send to your attorney general, media etc. regarding some very basic changes needed to laws and processes etc.

  • Patricia farnell

    Re the request that anyone aware personally of cases where an opposing result was achieved contact this site. Here I am guys. As in most if not all industries, collusion is widespread in the DNA testing industry Trying to find an honest one is like looking for a nedle in a haystack. Why is there so much secrecy about opposing DNA tests? Because if by chance or other a person is able to locate an honest lab and protect the inegrity of the sample, the labs pay hush money. My story up to the time of the ALRC Genetics Inqiry and the death of the father is at http://www.cute.com.au/dna. At that time, several women contacted me and one man about false and opposing results. Several of these women obtained opposing results acceptable to the courts after a long and heartbreaking battle. The strasnge thing in my case is that although I obtained a positive (opposite result) the court made an excuse nt to accept t, even though they had accepted the false claims of fathers who had sent a false sample to a lab known to be corrupt.
    The hardest thing to fight is ignorance ladies – get the facts, do diligent research including of other cases, then send the lot to your politicians especially Womens Affairs etc. pointing to the huge cost saving to taxpayers of ensuring justice. Write to me re laws etc which need t be changed and a pro forma letter available shortly which you can edit and send on to othersalso some tipe for making sure you are heard.

  • Patricia farnell

    Don’t forget girls – if trying to get another DNA test to prove first one wrong – there is no way of totally preventing tampering. Also make it clear you want the same tight procedures as in drug and alcohol testing and that you want two names to be on the sample provided by the claimed father. One of these signatories you only provide at the last minute. And – essential the parties have to front up for the sample provision personally. Your big big problem is finding an honest lab but fnding an ethical scientist not so hard so get your lawyer or other professional to liaise with an ethical scientist Absolutely minimise chain of custody. Have your witness ready to sign the sample. In the 12 years my site has been up, and having participated in 11 different law reform inquiries, I have only met one male yet hundreds of females – who claim a test result was false. Stangely, his second test was positive and he was claiming this was the one that was falsified.

  • Sandra Olson

    Well people, I have to share, Rick Wong and all the lawyers for the Attorney general of BC, Dr Hoar Sheila Butt and Vancouver General Hospital, etc have “discovered” our comments on this site. It seems they don’t like the fact that we are saying that DNA testing is not reliable, they have sent me a LEGAL NOTICE, to stop talking about this. LIKE THIS WILL HAPPEN!!! Don’t forget to check out my site on youtube, sandra olson dna error fraud, and my web site dna errors at freehompage.com. I am also on facebook, and soon to follow, twitter. Keep up the good work of telling the truth,

  • Sandra Olson

    Well everyone, Got another letter from those lawyers, seems they are quoting everything I say to them about how I find their dna samples unreliable and them contemptable for being the criminals they are, insulting, funny yes? They at least got the words right, except, oh yes, I meant to say, bite me! I find fraud in the courts, by the court insulting, I find lying to my face about the facts of a case, to injure a woman and child, insulting. And slander, and a gross negligence against the public. Anyone remember the song that went something like, just a three dressed up as a nine? Well, here we have the criminal’s dressed up like the law. Don’t imagine they concern themselves for one moment with the concept of justice, that is dead. Shame on our justice system!!! And all the hairbrains that work in it.

  • Gloria Williams

    Great company Lab One Testing Services in Memphis , Tn . These people are wonderful , they helped us juvie messed up my paternity test and Lab One did a wonderful job in sending the correct results to us .. Try these people , they will mail the results to you and they will do one out of state as well

  • Sandra Olson

    Sarah’s father, Rick Wong, has steadfastly refused to go for any testing at all, for the last 17.5 years. As well, as long as the system has no verifiable standards, no independant regulatory system, and they are still using simulated studies only to calculate their error rate, they are not reliable. They may have been correct in your circumstance, and that is great. But as an industry, they are not OK as they are today or were in 1994 when our testing was done. Even if all these were changed, Wong has been on the run to avoid testing forever, it is sort of what makes me sure he did this somehow, with help from someone at the lab. But thanks for the post. I just filed my application to the court of appeal for this matter, if they reject me, I will try the supreme court of canada, sooner or later, this horrible fraud the dna industry is running will be exposed, and I want to be there to help them step into the spotlight.

  • Sandra Olson

    On March 17. 2011, I filed a motion in the court of appeal to challenge the charter rights of the judge to block my access to the courts both by order and by financial assessments against me. I had 30 days from his contemptueous order, to do so. The 17 was the final day. I confirmed with the court registry they had received my paperwork. I waited until 29, to hear my case number etc. Then I called, They claim to have “lost” my paperwork. I have nothing filed. I asked why I was not advised of any problem they may have had with my paperwork, they already acknowledged they had received the fax’s, and I have the fax confirmation report. The manager yelled at me, told me they are very busy and do not babysit files. She also said she didn’t like my file, it was too big, and she would throw it into the garbage. I asked if that is what she did with my file, she refused to answer. Can’t access the courts if the registry won’t file your case. Don’t tell me THIS was an accident.

  • terri

    we had a test done thru labcorp said guy was not father but he was the only one i was with my son looks just like him and the dna markers matched the guy more than me and i gave birth to him anybody know what i can do its hard doing without everything when the guy makes over $3000 a month and i dont get a penny

    • Sandra Olson

      It is unfortunate this is happening to you and to you child. It is a sad fact that the courts refuse to listen to us mothers. As long as the criminals running these labs have standing in court, with no regulation or standardization, we have no one watching them to ensure anything they do. And as well, the accuracy rate they claim has never been proven. It is a statistical exercise with no study to base it on. The labs are basically playing god with our lives. And our courts are letting them do it. You will have to distract yourself from looking at the weasel who is your childs father for anything, including support. My guess, he is doing what Rick Wong is doing, running for his slimy life to escape responsibility for his child. Create a web site outlining what the lab is doing and what our courts are doing to us with this “junk science”. Start speaking publicly about this fraud on us. How they are lying to the public and stealing from women and children. Their greatly exaggerated claims of accuracy and reliability are a joke, it is unfortunate it is not funny. The doctor who did my test is Dr David Hoar at Vancouver general Hospital. The arrogant little ###### actually said to me, “lot’s of women say they know who the childs father is, but that is until I tell them who it is.” Can you imagine an ego that big?? Unless they were actually at the conception of that child, they are greatly exaggerating their “knowledge” . Don’t worry, all idol’s eventually fall of their own accord. Keep talking. Best of luck to you and your little one.

    • Sandra Olson

      I forgot to tell you terri, the courts have the responsibility of the gatekeeper role. It means they are supposed to protect the rights of citizens by ensuring that evidence admitted into court meets certain requirements, they are contained in the evidence act. Generally, they include, the evidence produced must be produced by a regulated industry, there must be verifiable standards, there must be a known error rate, none of these exists with dna testing. Our courts have conducted themselves outside of the guidelines of their jobs, we now have courts conducting themselves with a criminal contempt of the courts. That is, failing to follow the procedural guidelines of the courts. They are trying to suggest it is the responsibility of the public to protect themselves by cross-examination of the evidence. Try to do it, the courts refuse to let you cross-examine. And even if they did, how do you cross-examine evidence with no way to prove or disprove what is being said. ie: no known error rate studies to prove. Look up a study done by Katry Troyer in arizona, she did a study that proved the claims of these labs to be highly overstated. Then the FBI stepped in and issued a gag order to stop her from releasing anything else. This is all just one big scam. And once again, can you get lower then stealing from women and children? Calling women liar’s just for knowing and saying who their childs father is. It is just disgraceful. The courts are behaving as criminally as the labs, and they are trying to cover it up. Keep talking, loudly. That is what we are all doing.
      sandra olson

    • terri w

      Hi Terri, My name is Terri also!! I have the same problem, going for child support and the test came back as excluded…My daughter is going through the same as her sister who looks just like her is getting child support and visitation with her father per the courts but my youngest is left out…the father says well I got out of paying child support…I tried to have it retested but cannot afford the cost and the father says he will not take another test. So I am looking for how I can make labcorp fix their error….the people I ahave spoken with are not very helpful…

  • Patricia Farnell

    If anyone wants to help get these scams exposed let the Project Co-ordinator know at Coalition for Justice Inc Confirm if you are agreeable to being contacted by the media. (Send an assumed name if preferred) United we stand divided we fall. Email a brief confirmation of your online membership and of your blog. ( If you agree – also include name phone number. ) This will remain confidential to us and is only to strengthen the crediblity of what we are all saying and to show we are real people . See http://www.democraticjustice.org for more info

  • Sandra Olson

    Remember as well, the “Doctors” who do this dna testing, they are not doctors, check with your medical boards. They are technicians with a “doctorate”. IE: technicians who went to school a little longer. How do you feel about trusting one word a technician says? They account to no one.

  • Kim Vaughan

    Early 2009 I discovered that I was an illegitimate child and had good reason to believe that a man named John Severson might be my father. After a year of negotiating with John Severson and his attorney I was unable to obtain a certified sample from him. Then, last April I obtained several items that I was told came from Mr. Severson’s brother. I knew that if I had a DNA sample from a biological brother, I could have an avunclular test performed to establish genetic ties. I trusted the person who gave me these items without any doubt. Among the items there was a toothbrush and a hat that the Lab Supervisor told me would be the most suitable for testing. The hat was relatively new, and in very good condition but had been worn at least once, leaving a significant stain on the hat band. The lab supervisor told me that of the two items, the hat would be the most likely to give a good sample so it would be tested first and the toothbrush would be a back up to confirm the results. When I got the test results, they came back as not a match and I asked if him to go ahead and test the toothbrush just to make sure. I was told that it was the toothbrush- not the hat that had been tested. I asked why and was told that it was a mistake, and they would now test the hat for free. I declined to have it done for free, I wanted to pay for the testing. I got a call a few days later and was told the hat DNA on the hat was “contaminated”. Needless to say, I was really confused but content with the answer because I also had DNA analyzed from a letter I received from Mr. Severson earlier that year. I asked them to compare the letter and the toothbrush results and they told me the two samples showed they were from full biological brothers. I don’t know how to read DNA results well enough to understand how they could tell they were full brothers on the two samples, but they did it really fast. The most troubling thing is that I don’t know why there was no DNA on a hat band that I was told was “the best possible source” out of all the samples I had. They also never charged me for testing the hat, nor did they charge me to determine the two samples were brothers.

    Recently, I began researching DNA labs and testing to reassure myself that there was no reason to doubt the answers I was given from the lab. To my surprise, the search resulted in information about the lack of oversight, lack of regulation, and problems within the genetic testing industry involving human error and misleading statistics on accuracy. I am only more confused and left with even more doubts about the results and answers I was given for the discrepancies. That coupled with the fact that Mr. Severson, his attorney, or anyone else involved has never taken any action regarding my sharing this story or responded to my apology for any trouble I’ve caused. I thought at a minimum they would have requested some kind of retraction or they would have taken action to have my website removed. I don’t want Mr. Severson to be my father, I don’t want to doubt the results, but I really do. The circumstances of my life, along with the physical resemblance I can only continue to wonder. I really only want to know the truth.

    That’s all I’ve wanted for over a year and I wont give up till I am sure I have it.

  • sandra

    It is truely painful what these labs do to people. Ask them for the entire file of all the testing they did, including electrographs or autorads for independent review. If they refuse, which my labs have, they are hiding something. Ask them for the clinical trial studies that show the accuracy rates they claim, (there are none). Ask them for the chain of custody for the samples you submitted, that were created by the lab during the “work” they claim they did. The turnaround time for testing cannot just be done overnight, it is at least a few weeks and that is moving like the wind. If they make the claim to have done work extraordinarily fast, doubt this work. And if they get insulted by your requests for any of this material and claim that if you contact them again they will press charges or sue you, try calling the better business bureau. They are just private companies, and the client is you. You bought and paid for a service they claim is reliable, lets see the material that poves it. The courts are useless. They bought this crap without reservation, and don’t want to look like the stupid ##### that they are so they are hiding this too.

  • undercovernemo

    for now i will be undercovernemo because i dont trust large corporations and what they are capable of but anyway i recently had a test done through welfare for childsupport and the test came back negative that he is not his father which i know who i was with i even remember the exact date still and that was yrs ago. The test was done with LABCORP and i know it is wrong theres no doubt in my mind. I recently had a second child and thank God i had him or else i wouldnt have any proof 2 move on. this one is by the same man as well and i cant get their dad to agree to take a test again so im doing the test on the kids to c if they are full siblings today is aug 11 2011 the results will be back next week so i will know and my family will know the truth then. if i didnt have my family i wouldnt have been able to even get money 4 this test they even know its wrong

  • patricia farnell

    Hey undercovernemo – hope you had the sense to have the test at a different lab to labcor – you only have to see all the blogs on this site to know there is a corrupt insider working there. No wonder the US economy is up the spout when so many casaes are ignored – costing taxpayers when fathers get out of child support.

    • Sandra Olson

      I have been trying for years now to get the lab orchid cellmark in vancouver to release the work they did in my case claiming a man not her father, to be her father. I have been going through the freedom of information office, as the courts do not feel it necessary to have the evidence examined. The freedom of information office have just notified me that it was fine for the lab to deny me this information for review as it contained personal information not mine, it was my childs, and my ex’s who is now deceased and he has no rights. I know all the people involved in the testing, no private information here. But they won’t let the work be reviewed. They also claim to have destroyed the work, as they are entitled to do so after one year. This was a matter still before the courts as evidence. They destroyed the work, but still claim their report is completely correct. But it will never be reviewed by anyone but them. I told you government and the courts were involved in keeping this fraud underwraps. And if you cannot show your work to have an independent review, how do you verify it? How do you prove incorrect result if you cannot GET the results. Nifty little business these criminals are pulling yes? Don’t believe a word they write. They will lie, and then hide the paperwork so it cannot be proven.

  • Patricia Farnell

    Are yu saying that the DNA reports from the lab who did the test were not on the court file, ie not provided to your lawyers? If they are, then it makes a mockery of their “privacy” claims as an excuse surely? If they were not made available to the court and your lawyers, it highlights how DNA as evidence has wiped out due thinking as well as due process.
    Dont despair girls – when the facts hit the fan the blast will be huge – believe in it – wait for it! Promise

  • undercovernemo

    yes I did the test with another lab and they were suppose to have the results back 2day but i called them monday 2 pay the rest of the fee and they tell me they dont know where my samples are then they magically pop up the next day at the lab, so come to find out the lab didnt pick them up!!! slow bastards!!! as long as i get the truth out i dont care though, they said i will be getting the results back on the 23rd now so now i have to wait more… i will keep you all posted and let u know what happened!!! hopefully we all will be able to help eachother in the end

  • Sandra Olson

    so they lost them did they! Be careful here, who knows who’s samples they “found”. And any turnaround that is this fast is suspect. I should also caution you, losing samples may be the least of these moron’s problems. Who knows what other accuracy problems or proper procedure problems, they are going to have. These are people who get paid to be accurate, the losing samples thing, the whole lab is not that on the ball. If they are still wrong demand your work, all of it including the lab notes autorads electrographs etc, see if they magically lose these too. What is the name of this lab?

    • undercovernemo

      ddc google them they will pop up they are suppose 2 be the top, this is the lab tv shows and “big people” use, I think they just didnt pick them up like they were suppose to but i can not wait 4 the results…i have to keep myself busy to keep my mind off it i should have had this stress off my head this week but thanks to them delaying the process i wait another week

  • sandra Olson

    If they “lost” the samples, and then “found” them, you already have no chain of custody. A chain of custody is a constant trail of who handled the sample and for what purpose. That would also include where it is at all times. The chain of custody is very important. without it, you cannot prove what samples they have.

  • sandra Olson

    I have just gotten off the phone with the better business bureau Vancouver BC canada. I phoned to file a complaint with them regarding the problem behavior with Orchid cellmark, formerly helix biotech for refusal to release the work they claim to have done on my dna testing, and now the claim to have destroyed the work without notification to me and the now refusal to release anything to even prove they did the work. The better business bureau has refused to take my complaint regarding this company and claim they, orchid cellmark are a triple A company who have never had any complaints. Maybe that is because the better business bureau keep refusing to accept the complaints. The better business bureau then hung up on me. Has anyone else tried to file a complaint against one of these facilities?

  • Ispy

    Great stuff Sandra – do you have anything in writing to confirm the various rejections? – this is the sort of thing that will help expose the labs because there is so much similar – including in false charges for murder etc Yes – I did aply to our ACCC. Alan Fels was the head at the time and I believe was squashed by the government of the day. He did however get an investigation going into GeneTech share trading. I didnt follow up on the outcome but guess what, the government enterd into a business partnership with GneTech – ding ding.

    • sandra Olson

      I have all kinds of letters and e-mails from every government or court agency imaginable. The better business bureau is just the latest. I also got a call today but missed it, and will call back tomorrow, from the canadian standards association. The labs love to claim these people as their proof of how regulated and honorable they are. I will let you know how this goes, from past history with government, they will lie and hide this as best they can. They are also trying to financially break us by getting exorbinate court fees imposed on us by the criminals running the courts. These are all silencing tactics. We really need to realize what we are dealing with. This is all about salvaging their own asses, and money.

  • sandra Olson

    Pull up susan chandler, dna fraud. Apparently labcorp is in the process of buying orchid cellmark. Further amalgomation of labs, no competition. There is also an interesting case of a person named Sarah Blair, former employee of orchid cellmark, discovered to be falsifying dna test results by computer. Without the entire file, you cannot review the work, so, the lab claims to have destroyed the file etc, no way for the public to review the work. Different lab names, do not necessarily mean different lab. Labcorp is now orchid cellmark, and on we go.

  • miami

    i am so fucking confused the men that i been in realationship for abt almost 5 years and my child is 4 now so he stoped helping me so i had to be on welfare and they told me that in order for me to get food stamp i have to put him on chilsupport so i did and me and him went to court and did dna test with my child so then when the result was maild to my house so then when i read the result it turned my whole world upside down i just started crying and wondering how kept asking my self there is no way that he is not the father of my child its been awhile now and it hurts so much cause i know for sure he is the father of child it hurts me until this day cause he refused to get retested again. so what am i suppose to do he does not wanna get intouch with me at all what am i suppose to tell my child in future oh you dont have a dad i got my self preg..its bullshit….this fucking dna test it is not accurate….it just left me with pain they need to do thier fucking job right…

  • patricia farnell

    The number one change you must make is to stop saying it is the test itself which is false. It points people in the wrong direction, If there was anything wrong with the technicalities of your test it can be picked up by asking for the working notes and samples to be sent to another scientist – best one Dr Sally Anne Harbison.

    It is extremely likely that the father paid an insider or had an insider friend switch the sample. Go back to court and point to this be humble and say you just want confirmation because you know the test is wrong and quote rights of child under UN law etc. and request a DNA test under much stricter scruitiny including additional signature by your representative on the father’s sample. Poinmt to the cost to taxpayers and to the fact the quickest way to prove you are wrong is confirmatory testing. Say also that this is allowed and mandatory in drug and alcohol testing because where the wrong sample is tested (a common error)it gives a false result

  • texan

    why cant women just keep track of who the father is

  • texan

    why do they feel the need to get knocked up by as many different guys as possible..is it some cave woman thing..why get married if you need to juggle 5 different stiffies..then stuck with picking between whose got the bigger paycheck and whose got the bigger junk.does the vag feel like its missing out if its with only 1 guy

  • sandra Olson

    I just forced the lab to release their “consent” forms. They claim to have none, just one, it turns out it is a consent form from Vancouver general hospital and 1994 with Rick Wong as the man tested. The lab in the inquiry is Calgary childrens hospital, they claim they tested Ron Carey in 1996 and found him to be the father of my daughter. Now they are desperately trying to get me to sign anything to pretend they have permission to have this document and then they don’t have to explain why. These lab are fraudulent lying bastards. And they are trying to keep their “profit margin” going, even if it is at the expence of the women and childrens lives they are destroying. I believe this document is going to give us a hint of what these labs are up to. Don’t believe ANYTHING they put out. THEY ARE LIARS!

  • sandra Olson

    I just got an e-mail from Mr Jewell, representing Calgary childrens lab, denying he made any contact with VGH. Claiming only to be trying to submit to the inquiry. Insists that VGH contacted him. Looks like everybody is trying to go back to their corners. Lets see how this plays out.

  • disqus_iLo0Srvc5I

    I’m going thur the same thing with my kids father but t he is not the father an
    with another female she says he the father and they took a dna test n it came back his but he said he sure the father can that he wasn’t to take another dna test……so can someone from the dna lab miss read the results or put the wrong informatin in..

  • Crystal

    Leah,
    How do I go about that.. Do you think they still have the test we did the test Dec.30th. I need some kind of break through because this is really affecting my life. I know he is her dad and I just don’t understand how this could have came out wrong. What lab did you test first and what did they do wrong? Thank you for your help in this matter…

    ~Crystal

  • http://msn christina

    Crystal, I thought that it was only me, I was told that dna never wrong but my daughter looks like her dad spit her out same color hair left handed like him same birth markes, feet head to toe she has his big lips sucks her thumb like him. Lab corp did my testing the only other person I was with cant have kids he had dna test on his ex-wife his twines not his, another lady he with 3 years was’nt his. I cant sleep tried to harm myself., and cant get it out of my head he came and told me I was pregnant. hope you doing better than I god bless you and the baby.

  • Crystal

    Jim do you know anything about Lab Corp.?

  • Crystal

    Jim,
    Thank you for your response! I’m really trying hard to get to the bottom of this. It makes me feel better that you went through the same facility and had troubles. As I said before this is so frustrating to me because I know there was a mistake no questions about it. I look at my daughter everyday knowing this and it is a complete struggle. I feel very helpless at this point and I feel as though people look at me like I’m crazy because they say dna test cannot be wrong. Well people need to be more open-minded because it was WRONG and these test are performed by humans there is always room for mistakes.I know I will get to the bottom of this and even though my daughters dad has not been there and has put me through a lot I feel bad because he is missing out on her she is amazing. If you find out any information please let me know about who to send the results too. I will do the same for you too. Thank you again!

    ~Crystal

  • Crystal

    Diana,
    I think they mess up on a lot of people’s DNA test. What they don’t realize is it affects someone’s everyday life. It’s something to not be taken lightly and I can honestly say this company has caused a lot of emotional stress for me to the point of break down. I’m going to fight though and prove they made a mistake and I think you and your son should do the same. Good luck with everything to you and your son.

    ~Crystal

  • Crystal

    Jim,
    Thank you for that information it forsure gives me option. I probably will not contact Lab corp. do to the fact when the attorney contacted them to see if they could run additional test the guy that reviews them didn’t even go back and try and see if there was a error all he did was tell the attorney that some mothers just don’t want to believe it could be anyone elses. This comment really upset me because this guy doesn’t even know me and he said something like that. Well I have news for him there was no one else so there was an error made somewhere. I’m going to try and get another lab to look at my results. Another option is what you said about me doing another dna on myself and matching it through another lab. Jim I just want to get to the bottom of this. If you get anymore information let me know. I will do the same for you. I really appreciate the information you presented to me. I need everything I can get at this point to prove this so my daughter can have the chance to go to him when she gets older. Thanks again..

    Crystal

  • Michelle

    Hi Crystal,

    I had the same thing happen to me in NC. The alleged father even says that my son looks exactly like him as a kid and every other person in their family although he also refuses to take another test unless court ordered to do so. My son was only off from the alleged father by 1 allele and 3 alleles when my results were included. When I contacted the Child Support Office and LabCorp to contest the results, besides getting a lot of attitude from the people I spoke with, I was also told that any further testing or actions would involve me getting a lawyer and paying for the testing myself. If I had extra money lying around to do that, I wouldn’t be asking for Child Support assistance in the first place. This all happened 3 years ago and I have had no contact with the alleged father since. I now live in FL and found out that they will reissue a testing order regardless of any action in other states. Now, I have to decide if I am ready to open this can of worms again. It may be something you want to look into. Please let me know if anything else happens in your case. It makes me feel better that other people have gone through the same situation.

    Thanks and stay strong!

  • Crystal

    Michelle,
    Thank you for your comment.. It makes me feel better that you know how I feel and what I’m going through. I did send my results to a wonderful lab and they did tell me they couldn’t tell just by looking at the results where the mistake was. They were very open with me and in fact said that yes there can be mistakes done when it comes to dna. Now Lab corp. They didn’t invest anything when the attorney’s office called them and they even made a comment that I don’t want believe it could be anyone elses. I have no respect for Lab Corp. I have read a lot of bad reviews on them. They need to get a grip because they are ruining lives. Anyways this lab I sent my results to told me that by federal law if I wanted another test and I was willing to pay my daughters dad didn’t have a choice and they gave him one. Anyways I’m now in the process of contacting a colleage that has a legal aid program and praying they will help me get another test order. Its been really devasting and frustrating at the same time. I feel really helpless and I feel as though I need to get this striaghten out now because my daughter is going to have questions when she gets older. I know I have to fight for my daughter but at the sametime i have already been through so much I just don’t feel I have it me anymore but I know I have to do this for her. I will forsure keep you posted and if you find out any information that might help my case also please let me know. I will keep in touch and I wish you the best!

    Thank you so much, Crystal

  • lbabygurl918

    I had my test done there and it was negative but i don’t believe the test results are right…Time of conception my son belongs to this person and the “other” man I had a kid with and the children look nothing alike. On the test there was 8 matches and I was not included and the matches were all 3. or 2. none of them were .00034(example).This is driving me crazy. Crystal if ya find hope please share it with us and you are not alone….

  • Shayna

    My experience with them GTL has been a nightmare. Their customer service on top of everything else was horrible. Just submitted a new test with a reputable lab so we will so. I will let you know the new results next week.

  • lbabygurl918

    It was just done like 3 months ago…Thank you for your reply!!!

  • Crystal

    Ibabygurl918~
    Your welcome! I will keep in touch!!

  • http://msn christina

    im having the same problem , I went to lab corp, and I just dont trust it. Have you gotten help.

  • http://msn christina

    my dna test came out wrong i really think, my daughter look’s like her dad spit her out he has sickle cell, and l had testing done at lab corp and dont trust results. Please have you found anything out about dna, and sickle cell ?

  • Crystal

    Christina,
    I’m working on that right now.. I’m trying to get another test ordered. When I do get it order I’m demanding blood and I’m not going through Lab Corp. They are a huge JOKE in my eyes and someone needs to investagate how much they mess up on test. It ruins someones life when they make the mistakes they have been making. As I said before I will keep everyone posted when things get moving. Did you get your results back? Did you go through Lab Corp. in NC?

  • Crystal

    Christina,
    I wrote you back up above.. I just read what you wrote to me.. Thank you so much. I feel the exact same way this is taking a toll on my whole life. Each day I think about and each day I get more and more upset about it. Now I have to find away to have another test ordered by the judge I have some option I’m looking into right now. I just have not had the strength lately to deal with it. It has been a rollercoaster ride and I feel HELPLESS. I will keep you updated on what I find out and what I’m doing. This site is a God sent to me because I feel like its a support system I’m not alone. I can’t describe the way I felt when it first came out I felt like I was the only one. People are so narrow minded sometimes they look at you crazy when you tell them your story. I have learned that humans perform these test so there is ALWAY room for error. There was a huge error in my case and I know that without a shadow of a doubt. I daughter looks alot like her dad from head to toe if you compare pictures of her and him you would not need a test to show that is her daddy. Anyways stay strong I know thats easier said then done because I feel like I’m living a nightmare everyday. It will all work out in the end it always does. Keep your head up and pray to God because he will never let you down. What is impossiable for man is possiable for God and I keep telling myself that. I know its frustrating and especially when you look at your daughter and you ask how did this test come out wrong??? It makes you want to scream I know the feeling it sucks. Just remember you have to be strong for your daughter and you have to fight for her. You and I have to be their voice so they don’t have to suffer in the end. I just want you to know I’m right where your at and I know how you feel. Stay strong and God Bless…

  • http://msn christina

    Crystal, As you can see, this keep’s me up at night. What the heck! how are you doing first of all, it’s father’s day, and I cant sleep, I took dna test of the other guy, and also took the baby too see him, wow, I look like a fool I thought HaHa, she look’s nothing like him, the test has to be done over again on him. So i will let you no what happen next week it’s a ride of a life time. I hope you are well, and baby. hope to be able to rest soon havent sleep since may. Tired (smiles) Im it negative than I no that her dad did something to the test, he does more for her now, than befor the test was preformed it’s crazy, and he get’s her more. If the test is negative than he’s the dad, and I refuse to take the test over again , god bless you, Happy Father’s Day 2 us

  • stacey

    hey where did you find the dna calculator on the internet? could you use the gene caculator also to help determine?

  • Shayna

    Shelly, I too just recieved results from gtldna.com and I am positive that the are wrong. My dad and I are going next week to a local lab. What ever became of your experience?? Did you retest?? Would love your feedback. This is making me doubt everything now !!

  • Shayna

    Hi Shelly, Hope everything is well. We found a very reputable testing lab, they do DNA testing for 75% of the US. Forensic Files, Anna Nicole Smiths baby, etc. DDC is the name. They have a great track record and it was reasonable. (295..00) We are doing the standard trio this time (my mom, my dad and me) From what I have learned you have to be careful with the online sites. Believe me I have learned on this one.

  • Shayna

    I am very curious to know how the new test results came back. We have just gone through the same thing, now awaiting results from a “Qualified” Lab. Have you recieved your new results yet?? Best of luck !!

  • stacey

    hey, i see too your test was done by labcorp. I am starting to wonder about this dna company. I had my test done too by the state and they are saying that the guy i thought was the dad is not the dad. Now i am in the process of getting the other guy tested. I think i am about to lose my mind because my baby doesn’t look anything like this guy. i think sometimes i see an connection between them, but only when i stare hard enough at it. when the results come back and say this guy is not the father, then i am going to go crazy! what is so odd about the situation is that our test were done in different states. He is from a small town and is dad is an dectective in the city. when they took his dna test, they took an picture of him in an dark room with the flash off. when i ask could i make an positive ID of the guy, I couldn’t tell if it was him or not. the picture was so dark. the woman ask me have i seen his signature before so that way if i could tell if it was his signature or not. I ask her did she have an copy of his id and she said no. I ask did he have to fill out paper work and she said no. So the only thing he had to do was to take an test and leave she said yeah. the guy on the pic look like he gain 15-20 pounds. i thought when a woman is claiming an guy to be her child, he would have to fill out paperwork. now the guy i am testing, he smokes weed at least 3 times a day, 7 days a week. he is impotence. i look up info on the web about this and they said it is hard for an guy who smokes weed to have kids because of the low sperm count. also, inferlity comes together with impotence. so i don’t know what to do but wait. if anyone has any info, please let me know

  • Susan

    I just ran across this too! I have been searching the web for 7 years in hopes that someday I would find some answers. I had a test done at Labcorp through the state of Indiana and it excluded the father. I was devistated, but knew that it could possibly be one other person. I tested that person who I really didn’t think was the father (I have blue eyes, he has blue eyes and my son has brown)he was also excluded. That’s it. I tried to get the first man to take another test, but he doesn’t want to do it. I called the court and they said I would need to talk to the judge. I called LabCorp and they said I should look further out on my conception time. Maybe there are other possible fathers, but there aren’t. They said they would believe me if I hadn’t already tested two people? Crazy!! I would test as many people as I had to in order to get this answered. I don’t have any more to test. I also joke about the Mary for the Bible, you have to try to keep sane.

  • http://msn christina

    Hi, how have you been I hope fine, well I took my new test, well he took his test, I found out just this pass monday the he is the father of my child, im in shock, he cant have kid’s he is in shock, and his b-day was yesterday. So lab corp was correct. I havent told her daddy yet, cant get the nerves too as of yet, because he said that he will continue to take care of her anyway, but the other guy want’s his daughter, that’s his first and probable last, he’s that type 1 is enough 4 him, hope you doibg well

  • strongsinglemom

    I had paternity testing done by labcorp nc location, that was ordered through my county’s juvenile court in ohio. Ohio recently awarded a contract to Labcorp of America and began using them in july 2009, for all types of testing, not just forensic testing, as was done in the past. My son’s father and I were “together” (foolishly unprotected), in march 2007 and my son was born in december 2007. I got the results from the paternity test back and was shocked to learn that labcorp excluded my son’s father for paternity! I was a firm believer, as most people are, in DNA until now. I’m filing an objection and although I shouldn’t be surprised, I WAS surprised to learn that my family believes down in their very souls that my son’s father really is his father. Today makes one week that I’ve had to live with this devasting news, knowing deep down in my soul that labcorp is wrong, knowing that it’ll take A LOT of hard work, financially and legally, to prove that i’m right, but not knowing why this is happening to me. Feels like someone took my life, shook it, and then turned it upside down…like one of those snowglobes. Anything that might be helpful to my situation is appreciated. —strong single mom in ohio

  • Shayna

    Hi Joseph,

    I certainly understand how you are feeling right now for my Dad (alleged) and I have been going through the very same thing for 3 weeks now. I am 42 and we just reunited a few months ago. We look just alike and we share so many simularities and characteristics, we were convince 99% convinced that he is my father. We went to GTLDNA and were floored when we recieved our results at 0% possibility. We just couldn’t believe it. We did some research and discovered that with the testing they offer that there is no way they can charge what they charge and offer that particular testing. A labs basic cost is around 90 dollars so therefore they would not be making any profit. They are on and ran at and by a college and they are students reading your results. Kinda scary, huh? So we decided to go with one of the best (or should I say seemingly best DDC) they do all the testing for forensic files, Anna Nicoles bady and are very professional. Cost of test (standard trio) 295.00 results in 3 days. Plus, the test are read by PHD’s highly trained. Important for many reasons including possible mutation of dna. You can google to learn more (mutation rates dna paternity) We did ours this past Sunday, overnited it on Monday, talked to them this morning and we were asssured results by tonite or tom. morning at the latest. So wish us luck. As soon as I know something I will post it. Another thing that really turned me off was the customer services with GTLDNA. They were horrible !! Rude is an understatement. I found that to be most offensive, especially since they promote counsuling with the results. Too much to write here, let’s just say it was enough for me to create some serious doubt. This is people’s lives they are messing with. I can’t tell you what to do other than if you have ANY doubts, re-test !! Letcha know something as soon as I know. Take care and best of luck to you. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

    Shayna

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    joe- any luck no one has gotten back to me, was GTL wrong??????

  • Danielle

    I have a question for you, did you get a lawyer for your second test and if so how much did they charge b/c all of the lawyers i’ve been contacting are very expensive.

  • Crystal

    Hi Christina,
    Thats great that you found out I hope you can put your mind at ease and have peace in your heart. I did have one question did Lab Corp. do the second test?? I have heard they can mess up on saying someone is the father when they are not also. Things just don’t seem right after you saying how much your baby looks like the other guy. I hope you are doing well I was just curious on who did the other test. Thank you for keeping me updated. I can’t wait to put peace to my situation it is been a long road. GOD BLESS YOU AND THE BABY!

  • jozefvit

    thank you so much for the reply i am a stressed out reck at this point.
    The boy,s mother claims there is no one else that it could be and is still putting that in his head. Now he wishes to come back to my house and stay not that i dont want him there its just not very good on my 2 children i have at home one is 10 and other 13 they are going through a lot with all of this. I tried to keep them uninvolved but his mother wouldnt let him stay with her untill the test came back. I am going to have to talk to her and i havnt in years its not going to be a good thing. I really hope you post your results even if it turns out bad for you it will all work out you are in my prayers also. I hope you get what you are looking for and he is your father. If yours does come back that they were wrong i will do the same test you did. Again thank you at least i have someone that can really relate and with the same company in question.

    Joseph

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    what were your results???

  • Crystal

    Hello Danielle,
    I have not gotten a lawyer for my second test yet. I need to start working on that Monday. I’m really at a crossroads right now.. I’m pretty emotionally ehausted. Money wise I don’t have a lot because I’am supporting my daughter on my own so I’m praying to God I can find someone that will not be as expensive. I will let you know how it goes. I hope you are doing well! God Bless

  • Cheryl

    I also had GTL to do a Paternity Test without the mother as my biological mother died 37 years ago. I am 61 years old and the alleged father is now 87 so it was my desire at our age to be tested. My biological mother said she had no reason to lie to me and that this was my biological father. I look alot like him. We met 3 years ago and our relationship is good.
    It came back negative. I was very disappointed and had letters from my biological mother with many of them discussing my father and with her no longer living I can’t question her more. Perhaps I don’t want to believe the test results as negative but I have serious doubts about GTL testing.
    Now I’m totally embarrased to inform my supposingly biological father the news. We both have formed a bonding relationship – perhaps I should have let sleeping dogs lie.

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    Linda – I would like to compare!

  • Molly

    I find this post really interesting as I have just had test results back from GTLDNA which excludes the man I believe to be father of my child matching only 7 of the 15 markers too. It seems a very strange coincidence to read others have the same result…

    I have strong doubts about this test because it was done through a UK company who send the samples to this lab (not my choice but his) and when I saw the price, the websites, the t&c I was suspicious of the quality. The fact that GTLDNA are on a uni campus made me suspect it is students running the tests and I don’t believe the claims that every test is “comprehensively reviewed” – they must do hundreds a day, how can their “expert” devote so much time to reviewing each case?

    We are going to have the test redone by a UK MoJ approved lab, I hope those of you doing the same get the results you want. Sympathy and regards x

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    just came across this post:

    rob says:
    March 22, 2007 at 5:57 pm

    I have a question. is it possible for a paternity DNA test results to come negative and one postive with the same alleged father and son? I had a test done with the child and it came out negative and i had a different one done now the kid and mother and this one came out positive is this possible?

  • Crystal

    Hello… I just want you to know your not alone.. When I read your post I knew exactly how you feel this has devasted my whole life. Lab Corp need to get a grip they are messing up on test and don’t want to fix them. I had my test done in December with Lab corp in NC. The results came back not is and I know that is impossiable. I have had to live with this day in and day out and when I look at my daughter and see so much of her dad it frustrates me so much. I cry a lot and feel as though I’m living a nightmare. My daughters dad refuess to take another test so I have to go the legal route. I have not so that yet because I’am so emotionally exhausted. I have tried other things and have gotten rejected so I’m just exhausted at this point. I know I need to do this for my daughter it is so important that she has the chance to go to him because she is going to have questions when she gets older. I just want you to know you have my support and what ever I find out that I think will be helpful to you I will let you know. If you find out something you think would be helpful for me please let me know also… Good luck!

  • Danielle

    Im glad we’re here for each other for support, but now its time to take action, their is power in numbers, and we need to come together and put together a class action lawsuit against LabCorp I think I know a lawyer who will take our case. So…whosever interested please respond.

  • Molly

    Hi Jordon,

    I too am watching this thread with interest because I believe GTL have given us a false negative result too – matching 7 markers of the 15. I posted a comment on here but its still awaiting moderation.

    There are so many others on here contesting GTL’s results but not fed back to us and I can’t find any other site on the web (except BBB) who have customer feedback/complaints on the company. Its so worrying, I just want to know I have a good reason to retest, I don’t believe the results but I’m no scientist and I could be the one who is wrong which would be truly devastating.

  • Linda

    Hi Jordan, please send me an email and we can compare our results. You can email me at lindalopez29@aol.com. I look forward to hearing from you soon. :-)

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    Molly-

    I understand you 100%. The only really sad thing is everyone on here says they feel like they have had wrong results, but no proof. I’m waiting for someone to say ” I tested with GTL and re-tested and was given wrong results” I can not go any further into this situation with out that one person to give me hope. I don’t understand about the 7 out of 15 matching either I did hear everyone has certain matching DNA but like you I am no scientists. Right now I am waiting for my son to get a little older either he will cont’d to look like the man who I believe to be his father or he will magically turn darker and look like the other man. It really helps knowing I am not the only women with this problem. Thank you for getting back to me please let me know if you decided to re-test and if you don’t mind sharing the results!! please feel free to email me at forevertroz@yahoo.com!! best of luck!!! p.s what is BBB and how can I find the site to read more reviews??

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    I’m not sure if your still checking this site but I pray you are did you really get 2 different results when u tested the mother????????

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    I was just checking older comments and came across this:

    rob says:
    March 22, 2007 at 5:57 pm

    I have a question. is it possible for a paternity DNA test results to come negative and one postive with the same alleged father and son? I had a test done with the child and it came out negative and i had a different one done now the kid and mother and this one came out positive is this possible?

  • Molly

    Hi Jordon, thank you for writing back, its so good to hear from you. Like you I am so desperate for knowledge that the lab have been getting people’s results wrong to give me the strength to proceed with the new test. There is an extremely slim chance that I may have defied the laws of reproduction and conceived my child with another man but the dates of my pregnancy and her looks all point to the man I believe to be her father and who is now refusing to believe she is his.

    BBB is an online portal that lists reviews and scores companies performances. GTL have some sort of accreditation with them but BBB also list the serious complaints they receive about them on the website: http://www.newmexicoandsouthwestcolorado.bbb.org/Business-Report/The-Genetic-Testing-Laboratories-Inc-44658.

    I hope that you are finding strength while you too wait for news. My child’s father has become totally irrational and rather than resolve this sensibly with a new test he is now telling details – including false claims such as I was sleeping with other men – and copying into our correspondence all sorts of people who have no right to be involved such as his friends and the people we work with so I am now unable to return to my job after my maternity leave finishes. Because the family services view his behaviour as abusive and defamatory with intent to induce mental distress with no consideration for his child, he will not be allowed access to his child without supervision if at all even with a positive test result. Due to the distress he has caused me and because I am b/feeding this means that he will not be able to see her until she is at least a year old. This breaks my heart because it could have all been avoided if he could have behaved in a mature, responsive manner and his daughter would not have been deprived of her daddy.

    And what also hurts? The fact that if this test is proven wrong, the lab and company it was done through will get away with yet another case of wrecked lives because there is no way to prove they made the error or that they are negligible by providing home tests which can be tampered with. Some countries in Europe are making these home tests illegal, I hope the rest of the world follows suit before too much more damage is done.

    To everyone looking for hope and strength here, best of luck, my thoughts are with us all.

  • Molly

    Great post Jordan. In the UK approved testing labs do not accept motherless testing unless the mother is not able to be tested (e.g. if she is absent or has died). They call tests with both parents and child “trio testing”.

    From what I understand the reasons trio testing is so much more accurate as it reduces:

    a) false positive results (saying the man is the father when he is not) by eliminating all the mother’s alleles (genes) from the child’s results before comparing the alleged father’s sample. By removing the mother’s allele numbers the remaining ones have to match one of the father’s two alleles on every marker (with the exception of mutated genes). If the mother’s DNA is not available how can the scientist know if the child’s allele came from the alleged father or if it is the mother’s allele and just a coincidence that the man being tested shares that allele with the child? By the way, it is important the lab you use tests for possible gene mutations (especially if the man was in his 40s or older when the child was conceived because as men age they start to produce sperm with genetic mutations that do not match the man’s own DNA).

    b) False negative results by revealing sample mix-ups/contamination or tampering (fraud). Quite simply if you include the mother and her genes don’t match the child you can tell the sample is not from that child (assuming you are testing paternity). What it doesn’t tell you though if the father’s DNA sample is not correct in which case you would still get a negative.

    In my case, its hard to know where the potential error lies. I was forced to let the father take a swab from my daughter but I never saw what happened to it after it was taken and found out he also had a spare testing kit (many companies ship these out for free here) so if the lab didn’t make a mistake I have to suspect that one or both samples were tampered with either by him or someone close to him who wanted a negative result and there were several people who wanted just that sadly.

    Assuming they were genuine, according to the report I’ve been shown, the samples were 12 days old by the time they were tested. When I researched the effect of deterioration/poor storage I discovered

    “PCR-based testing often requires less DNA …and the DNA may be partially degraded… However, PCR still has sample size and degradation limitations that sometimes may be under-appreciated. PCR-based tests are also extremely sensitive to contaminating DNA at the crime scene and within the test laboratory. During PCR, contaminants may be amplified up to a billion times their original concentration. Contamination can influence PCR results, particularly in the absence of proper handling techniques and proper controls for contamination. PCR is less direct and somewhat more prone to error than RFLP. However, PCR has tended to replace RFLP in forensic testing primarily because PCR based tests are faster and more sensitive.”

    The full article is at http://www.scientific.org/tutorials/articles/riley/riley.html, I recommend reading the PCR section for details on how lab errors occur.

    As a final note, the lab report had my part of my daughter’s surname spelt grossly wrong (apparently I’m now Polish not British). Am I expected to trust someone who can’t spell a common surname to correctly label and handle samples and test results?

  • Molly

    PS. If you read the article also read the section on Multiple STR testing which is the system GTL use. It demonstrates how much knowledge is required by analysts to identify contamination, degradation and an occurence called “stutter” which could also be a second DNA contaminating the sample. As earlier posts on here call into question the experience and knowledge of GTL’s staff (as it employs a large number of students), I think its also worth considering as an avenue for error.

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    Molly-

    I must say you have some great research skills!!!!!! Only if I put the effort into looking up the information prior to actually buying the test I would be in a world of difference. I’m so glad we have this blog to talk and share problems it really helps me get through the day! I guess I must confess, I am planning on buying yet another GTL test. BEFORE you judge listen to my reasoning!! Man number two has been made fully aware of the test that I have already taken and the results that the other man was negative. We both still feel that the baby is way way to white to be his however, the method behind my madness follows. I have a feeling if I just test man number 2 and the baby the results will also be negative, therefore it will give me evidence that GTL is wrong and reason to take man number 1 to court for a REAL test!! He will not retest without evidence that GTL might have been wrong. That is why I have been rapidly searching for evidence that GTL is no good. On the other hand if the results come back positive maybe this has all been a goose hunt because deep down I want man number 1 to be his father. He is just a better person and father. For my own selfish reasoning I know a ring and wedding will follow. It sucks that I put myself and my son through all of this. I just pray that the results come back negative for the second test. This is of course that he actually shows up to take the damn thing!! Anyways know that I am thinking of you and that you are not alone, you have given me such strength and hope I hope only that I have done the same for you. P.S. I wrote to Grace IBAY she is the genetic scientists that posts blogs daily I asked her to explain more why we all have 7 out of 15 matching markers. I hope she can give some more answers!! hope all is well… keep me posted as I will for you!!!

  • Molly

    Thanks for the comment Joseph, I found the customer complaint log both eye-opening and reassuring that this company are giving out erroneous results. When you bear in mind these complaints are just the tip of the iceberg you realise the potential for there to be hundreds more cases out there where complaints have not be made public.

    You might like the link I just posted above. It tries to explain DNA in non-scientific terms, some of it is still quite confusing but the sections on forensic samples, PCR, Multiplex STR and DQA1 make it clear there is plenty of room for error, especially where analysts are inexperienced as may well be the case with GTL’s home test kits. http://www.scientific.org/tutorials/articles/riley/riley.html

    It all gives me the strength and hope to battle the results, and even though it is going to take a lot of time now, it saves a lifetime of heartache.

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    Ki-

    Just wanted to let you know your not alone!!! I’m pretty sure everyone in my family and all of my friends are tired of hearing what I have to say too. That’s why I’m glad I found this site!! If you read my earlier posts you’ll get a background of my story and some interesting facts I have found. Check out posts by Molly too exp. the one on the BBB website. It’s crazy!! anyways I would def go to court and from what I found make sure they test ALL 3 of you this way they can compare your genes, his genes to the baby. I’m in the same boat and waiting for a court date (maybe). Just know if you ever want to vent or talk I’m here I check this site everyday (alot) in hopes that someone had been given wrong test results. Oh PS they shouldn’t use the same DNA something def could happen to it. RETEST!!!!!!!!! hope to hear from you soon – Jordan

  • Molly

    Hi Ki,

    I just wanted to agree with Jordon’s post, you are not crazy and not alone and feel free to talk with us, we’re in the same boat looking for the same answers. Its great to be able to share hope and frustration.

    If you are getting a second test done it should be with a new fresh sample from all of you taken by an independent party (a doctor or lab) and prefereablyfollow legal procedures. They cannot retest the same sample because it could have been contaminated or tampered with, especially since you didn’t witness the first test swabs being taken.

    My story is very similar to yours and we are doing another test but it will take a couple of months until we reach the results points.

    My best wishes and thoughts are with you!

  • Molly

    Hi Ki,

    I’m not sure if I understand your post. Are you questioning the reliability of single allele numbers?

    From what I understand about the homozygous allele is that occurs when both parents donate the same number allele to their child. However there is a flaw in PCR testing that can result in erroneous “homozygous” alleles. It can occur when the sample is contaminated or deteriorated and either the second allele “drops out” of the amplification process and cannot be read or a longer allele is damaged and read to be a shorter allele or is considered to be a “stutter” (a shadow of an allele).

    Did you get several homozygous alleles? I would wonder if there is a possibilty of a partial dna profile in that case (ie several of the alleles dropped out but the analyst didnt consider dna in the sample to be only partially present). That is only a hypothesis though not a fact.

    What is confusing Jordon, Linda, her brother and I is that we all have test results from the same company stating we all had fathers and children who only matched 7 out of 15 markers. Although the loci/markers we matched on appear to be different on our results, it seems a strange coincidence…

    Great to have everyone sharing their thoughts, lets keep it up! btw Ki, I posted a few articles tonight a few posts above here you might want to read.

  • Molly

    Hi Ki, just a quick post as wondering how you are getting on? Have you been to court now? Thinking of you and everyone else awaiting answers.

  • Molly

    Hi Jordan,

    Hope you’re doing ok. I think its a good idea in to do another home test, its going to give you an answer even if it’s negative, you’ll know then there’s a good chance the first test was wrong. It’s going to be interesting to hear the result, I hope its the one you (we) want!

    No news here, still sitting and waiting til it’s our turn and sending myself silly thinking too much!

  • Molly

    Hi Jordon,

    Definitely have my fingers crossed for you. I know how desperate you are for an answer but do you feel nervous too? I’m really glad you will finally get some answers, I hope its the ones you want and look forward to hearing them! If you need to chat to someone, drop me an email x

  • ki

    Hey Molly,

    My court date is in a few more weeks.

    I am doing okay…with the single parent thing. My situation is different from everyone elses. If I understood the email correctly 7 out of the 15 Locus marker were incompelte? 8 out of the 15 were mismatched on the test that were performed with my daughter and her father, what i thought was odd is that 5 of the alleles are identical…I don’t know what to think anymore…

    But I am wondering as anyone hear of the blood type O of being a null?

    Jordan and Molly thanks for being supportive it means soooo much! Thanks.

  • Molly

    Hi Ki,

    Glad you’re coping okay with Little One, that’s the most the important thing but I know I find it hard to stop my thoughts going all over the place and I guess you might be finding the same.

    Your test results sound totally bizarre. Did you get hold of someone at the lab to explain them to you, they have a duty to do so. Were they saying they couldn’t read the DNA on 7 of the markers? And that of the remaining 8 non matched but there were 5 that were homozygous for either the father or child? If so it sounds like they did not get a full DNA profile.

    If there is incomplete or poor sample of DNA the lab should call to arrange a new sample collection, but I read in GTL’s T&C that if they get no response they will test anyway which seems rather pointless.

    You are doing the right thing getting a new test done as it sounds like possibly your first one did not work properly and should be ignored. The next test will have to be with new samples taken by professionals. As awful as it is to go to court at least you can take reassurance knowing that a proper test will be undertaken and you should get the result you expected. You don’t say how the father is reacting but I hope he is not causing you extra strain.

    I am finding the wait until the next test excruciating too, I desperately want to move on, you are in my thoughts for being in a similar position. I think it could help you if you speak to the first lab and ask them to explain what the results mean, but don’t let it put you off taking another test, it’s not worth sacrificing your daughter’s future by accepting something you believe to be wrong.

    Re blood typing, its an old fashioned method of paternity testing that was fairly unreliable. O type blood is not a null but it is like a recessive gene, it is dominated by A, B and AB so if one parent is O and the other A a child will be A. The only way a child could be O is if both parents are O. So you *might* be able to prove someone is not the father but not that they are since thousands of people share dominant blood groups.

    Take good care of you and your little one Ki and if you can, let us know how you are getting on.

  • Molly

    Dear Ann,

    Thank you for sharing your story with us, I am so sorry to hear you too are going through this too but I hope this thread shows you that you are not alone and there is lots of support here for each other.

    Your story rang so many bells with me. 3 scans all gave me the same conception window too and when my baby was born 2 months ago the dates appeared to be spot-on (10 days over due and “overcooked”). She is even a mini-me of her father. Since the test result has come back her father has managed to convince himself that the dates must be wrong, she must be another man’s child, that I have not only lied to him but intentionally mislead him, that he didn’t willingly get involved with the pregancy/child and it has destroyed his life, all of which is unfair and untrue.

    All I hear from him is how the test is “medically sound” even though it was one of those home kits and I cannot know for sure it did not get contaminated or was tampered with. We too are taking another test and I guess that he is telling himself it will be negative to protect himself from further hurt but in the meantime it is agonising to know every day that passes is another he has lost with his daughter and because he was abusive and defamatory towards me and her when the situation first started the child authorities here don’t want him to be allowed access to her even when she is proven to be his daughter, a destructive mess that could have been avoided with a reliable test.

    You are absolutely right these labs have the power to make or destroy our lives and from what I’ve researched it seems some of these labs are more keen to hide and deny their errors rather than learn from them. Unfortunately they also seem to be the ones offering these “peace of mind” tests at tanatalisingly cheap prices to the public.

    I’m glad you are retesting. The are only a few things I can suggest for the retest which you probably already know. First is to use a different AABB accredited lab with a good reputation (DDC and Cellmark seem to be market leaders in both the UK and US). Although they also capable of making a mistake if you query the results with them they will follow up and retest if necessary. They also tend to have more experienced staff, test all the relevent (16) markers plus more for inconsistencies/mutations. I’ve heard that labcorp exclude paternity on the basis of two non-matches (11/13 or 13/15 mismatching), which many labs would not do and would test further markers to try and (dis)prove a relationship. GTL do not give enough information about their processes, employ students/inexperienced staff and immediately destroy samples after testing, several posters on here are contesting them. Identigene is a further lab with a lot of complaints lodged against them for issuing false results.

    The other things to make sure you do is get the lab or a qualified, independent professional to take your samples following the chain of custody to protect the samples and if it is an option I believe blood testing is less vulnerable to contamination and deterioration as long as the labs get the sample within a couple of days.

    Was your original test a “legal” one with identification, etc? If so then you may have a good case against the lab and I am glad to hear you will take action against them, I think they are not challenged enough. My girl’s father tells me his NM lab couldn’t have made a mistake because of the risk of lawsuits, which shows how naive he is. There is no way we could sue the lab because he took the samples himself and has no way to prove they weren’t tampered with before the lab received them. The UK company he went through even have a clause in their contract stating that they cannot be held responsible for errors in the results – hardly boosts confidence, does it?!

    However the UK company (and baby’s father) are guilty of DNA theft as they took my daughter’s sample without my consent which is against the law in the UK. I also think that with enough cases to back it up, the labs offering home/peace of mind tests which allow people to take their own samples should be sued for negligence leading to mental distress and breakdown of people’s lives. I firmly believe they should not be made accessible to the public – they are illegal already in some European countries.

    The very best of luck with your battle, Ann, I hope that there is a happy ending yet for all three of you. You are amazing for being so strong in such a terrible situation and you have the support of all of us posting on this thread, we too know how difficult it is to raise a child on your own under these circumstances. Please let us know how you get on if you can, we are all inspiration to each other.

    Blessings.

  • Crystal

    Ann-
    Thank you for sharing your story with everyone. A lot of things you said really hit home for me. When I look at my daughter I see her dad and it is so frustrating to know that test was wrong. I also have the results of my altro-sound and my dates were right on for the conception. This just gave me proof on paper I already knew because I had not been with anyone since 4mos before I was with my daughters dad. I live this nightmare everyday. My daughters dad also says I’m lying and he also has moved on and has a new girlfriend.
    I have a couple of questions for you.. What Lab Corp. did you go through for your test?? We went through the Lab.Corp. in NC. Is your daughters dad working with you to get another test?? My daughters dad is refusing another test. The state made a mistake and gave him a choice of doing one or not. I found out later on that by federal law if one of the parents is fighting the results the other parent doesn’t have a choice in the matter. The state told me they could not help me any further and I would have to hire an attorney and take him to court. This has been an emotional roller-coaster for me and I cry everyday. I feel so helpless at this point and I’m not sure what I need to do next. I pray everyday about this and have faith that I will someday get my break. If you have any suggestions for me let me know please. I wish you the best of luck with your new test. Please keep me posted and stay strong. God Bless you and your daughter!!!

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    Ann-

    However far molly and I are from you, know that you are NOT ALONE!!! I have one question did you test all 3 of you??? I didn’t and after some research I found that you need to test all 3 without the mothers DNA they “fill in” the blanks. For example dad has 13/19 baby has 13/22 mom has 15/22 that would be an exact match. On my test “dad” just had 14 baby had 18 and I wasn’t tested so they would mark that as zero match!!! I know right what if i had 18 (see what I’m saying) GTL even states on their website that results could be inconclusive without moms DNA.

    I’m home ALONE with my 2 mth old and dad #1 hasn’t been seen for weeks and dad#2 is a JERK who has been great at falling off the planet for years!!! I try everyday to stay strong for my son!!! but its hard. I’m glad that I have you, molly and this whole website to talk our problems out with and try to figure this DNA testing out!!! ALL I can say is do the research BEFORE you retest!! Check my earlier postings and Mollys!!! there are website and journal articles that you should read and review before you make any more moves. Check the BBB site too..There is sunshine opposite this cloud I believe this. If I don’t I will break and I cannot do that since right now I am all my son has!!!! Stay STRONG and stick to your guns. A mother knows best!!!

    btw molly –

    The father that was already tested (who was excluded), before the baby was born his mother told me to look for a birth mark on his back that it is a family trademark!! GUESS WHAT I FOUND on my son!!!!!!! YUP upper right side of his back!!!!! my son also has really really long eye lashes for a baby and his (who I believe to be father) does too!!!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr test results for man #2 should be here soon Ill keep you posted..Keep me in your prayers as I do all of you!!! xoxox

  • Molly

    Hi Crystal,

    I meant to reply sooner to say thank you for sharing your story with us too. It is so heartbreaking to know that so many of us and our children are going through this, yet comforting to have each other’s support.

    I am only thankful that my little girl is too young to know what is happening and not suffering the emotional trauma of her dad disowning her. He claimed to really love her but has shown no consideration for her since getting the test results. Not once has he asked how she is and if I try to tell him anything about her I am accused of emotional blackmail. I am irritated by the thought that when we get the correct results is he going to decide he loves her again? Can the kind of person who switches affection on and off really be a truly loving and giving parent? He too has a girlfriend who appeared to give him a her or me ultimatum when our daughter was born and I supported him when he said he needed to spend time with her and disappeared for 3 days when his daughter was less than two days old. I kept on supporting him with his relationshipship problems right up until the point of the test results even though it causes me a lot of pain. He lied to her about spending time with his daughter and me and I seem to be getting blamed for that too!

    We are getting a retest done because he insists on it and because I am forced into “clearing my name” by doing so, sometimes I feel like telling him to believe what he wants and move on but I know one day my daughter will ask me questions and she will want to know why I didn’t insist on finding out the truth. He tells me he is absolutely sure that the next test will be negative – this is the man who justified the test when he said he was going to do it by saying he knew it would be positive because he knew in his heart she is his daughter! So if this is what he thinks now then his reason for doing a retest is to villify me and make me guilty beyond doubt of being a terrible person. But just maybe somewhere in his mind there is that seed of doubt that tells him she really could be his daughter still.

    Do you know the reasons why your daughter’s father is refusing another test? Can you appeal against the court’s decision? They have made the mistake and your daughter’s well-being and emotional health are suffering here, she needs to know the truth when she is older and the courts are preventing that. I wish I knew more about US law and could help you better.

    I also think things would be so much more rational if I could talk to my girl’s dad openly and as adults but he won’t entertain any communication with me that can’t be used in court against me. Do you have any way of getting through to him that this test must be redone? eg. showing evidence of Labcorp’s malfunctions (such as the above article) or the Bastien case where the man was disproved by labcorp as his son’s father then year’s later it was proven he was. Does he have a better nature that you can appeal to explaining that your daughter will one day need to know who her father is?

    The problem I have is convincing my daughter’s father that there is *reasonable* doubt that the test was carried out accurately. Her conception means trusting my word (even though I was dating him excclusively at the time, I obviously can’t prove that) but I can prove through news reports that labs have been known to make mistakes. The simple fact that DNA does not lie is true but it can mislead (mutation of genes happens all the time) and it is sensitive to human error when obtaining or testing the samples. Jordon, Linda, myself and many others on here are all looking for evidence that a specific lab has made mistakes in the past which will enable us to prove reasonable doubt in our own cases.

    At least none of us are alone, I am so glad every day to have the strength of others in this thread to help keep me going so that everytime I look at my daughter and see her father looking back at me I know I am not hallucinating! And every day I put you all in my prayers that you too find the truth and happiness and that in the meantime you can enjoy the blessings of your beautiful children.

  • Molly

    Hi Jordan,

    How exciting and interesting about the birthmark, I really hope it is a sign for you!! I found it interesting to learn that eyelash length is an inherited trait – long eyelashes is the dominant gene. My little girl has very long lashes too, mine are thick and pretty but not long, her father has the kind of eyelashes that make girls’ jealous and swoon all at the same time!

    When she was born people always said how much alike they both looked, even people meeting him for the first time, and how little she resembled me except for the obvious inheritance of my family nose!

    I couldn’t really see it at first and I didn’t look too hard but as she grows I can see what she’s inherited from where. Generally I think she is going to look a lot like my older sister as a child but she has physical features and expressions that are just like her dad. I’ve been going through her baby pics and every so often I pull out one of her then find one of her dad and they have exactly the same expression, their eyes, mouth and chin are the exact same shape and her ears are tiny replicas of his. I know that children don’t always look like their parents, but just how much coincidence can you get? I look just like my dad, there’s no doubting we’re related and my three sisters look just like darker versions of my mom.

    I have always tried to keep both sides of the situation in mind, how he must be feeling. Generally that makes me feel really sad that he is losing all these precious moments with his child and one poignant thing he said to me is to imagine my daughter was taken away because they weren’t sure she was mine and would hold onto her until they had made a decision. So I understand his lack of involvement is to protect his feelings however it doesn’t give him the right to treat me as a sub-human being.

    I’m glad to hear #2 turned up to do the test, you will have the results so soon, I am excited and nervous for you, you are in my thoughts and prayers every day.

  • Crystal

    Molly~
    Thank you so much for your respond.. It’s so wonderful to have this support because as you know it is not easy to go through this. It amazes me reading your story and others how much it is like mine and the way I feel. My daughters dad is refuessing another test because his girlfriend said if she is yours I’m done. He has choosen her over his own daughter. He has only seen pictures of her and i know he knows she is his he just doesn’t want to lose his girlfriend. His girlfriend has two kids of her own and she wants him all to herself she doesn’t want to mess her lil happy family up so she is going to make sure he is not apart of my daughters life. It is so important for me to get this another test because this is my daughter’s life. I don’t want my daughter to go through life trying to fill a void because her daddy is not in her life. She deserves along with your daughter and everyone else kids to know who her daddy is. Like you have said when you look at your daughter you see him. When I look at mine I see so much of her daddy in her. I know she is his without a doubt and it KILLS me that they made a mistake.
    It is really sad that the state doesn’t care and they will not help me at all. Lab Corp. didn’t even go back through the test and look for a mistake. When the states attorney called them they said that I don’t want to believe it could be anyone else. That statement really upset me because this person didn’t even know me. It shows that they are horriable and they could careless about people who go through them for testing. It’s all about money in their eyes and they have proved that in many ways to me. I wish there was a way to get through to her dad but at this point it is a helpless situation. He has called me a whack job everything you can think of. His life with his girlfriend is way more important than being apart of his daughters life his own fleash and blood. It’s just a tough situation and I really wish that I could get some kind of break through. I’m going to keep on fighting for my daughter I have to be strong even though at times it’s hard.
    Please keep me updated on your situation and if you come along anything you think will help me out let me know. I will do the same for you and everyone else. Thank you for your support and I will keep you in my prayers that you get the peace and your daughter gets the chance to have her daddy. God Bless!!

  • Molly

    Thank you for your reply Crystal. I am horrified by the girlfriend’s attitude as a mother herself she should know how important it is for a little girl to have a daddy. She evidentally thinks its important for her two and has found them a surrogate, how dare she come between him and his own daughter?

    As for my child’s dad, the complication is made worse by the fact that him, his girlfriend and I used to work together, he broke up with me saying he couldn’t be in a relationship then within two weeks was dating her. Despite this I was never anything but kind and helpful to her. So of course they think I got pregnant to spite them when in fact by this time I was, unbeknown to me, about 4 months pregnant and when I found out at 5 months I didn’t even tell him then. I took temp leave from my job and eventually my friends convinced me I had to tell him he was going to be a dad. I told him clearly I could raise her on my own, I was prepared to allow him into her life because they both had a right to know each other. He decided he couldn’t “abandon” her and wanted involvement, we even argued about this again but he stood his ground. Now he is accusing me of encouraging him to be involved knowing she might not be his, of forcing him to be at the birth (despite him being hysterical because he had to work while I was in labour and thinking he was going to miss her arrival. He didn’t, he cried, he cut the cord and said it was the most amazing moment of his life then left her for 3 days to see his girlfriend).

    Lately he has even tried saying we weren’t seeing each other when she was conceived, luckily for me my phone company log all incoming/outgoing SMS texts online so I can prove that. I had to amuse myself over this, he insists on forwarding all our emails to his girlfriend, I wondered if she might like to read all the texts from when we were dating?! ;-) Of course I wouldn’t do that but it made me smile to think of what I could do if I were a childish person!

    His girlfriend made her objections clear during the pregnancy, suggested ending the relationship and then claimed to support him regardless. I bumped into her the week before my daughter was born and I got such daggers from her, the friend I was with didn’t know who she was and was shocked, asking what I had ever done to hurt that girl, she wanted me dead?! Anyway within a day of my daughter being born she had hystrionics and baby’s dad had to go and stay with her to save their relationship which can’t be easy when the “other woman” in his life is his baby’s daughter. He and his girlfriend have a father-daughter type relationship themselves, he’s always saying how vulnerable she is and how she has so many problems and needs him, no-one understands her, blah blah. Her dad died when she was a toddler and its classic father-replacement behaviour, she’s 20 years his junior for a start! Within two weeks it was clear even he was sick of his girlfriend’s behaviour and had told her to back off, they were on pretty thin ice when the test results came back so of course I am also getting the blame for nearly destroying their relationship for nothing! How I long to prove she is his and end this!

    Secondly I am disgusted with LabCorp’s lack of moral ethics in what is an ethically driven field. They have no right to say what they have, it doensn’t matter what they think, its their business to help you not judge you. I have been rereading the posts because I recalled someone else getting an equally offensive comment from LC “I called LabCorp and they said I should look further out on my conception time. Maybe there are other possible fathers, but there aren’t. They said they would believe me if I hadn’t already tested two people? ” (Susan, Aug 2).

    Did you get anywhere with getting another lab to check the testing and results? According to LC’s website they keep the information for 7 years so you should be allowed access to it, maybe under data protection act? The only drawback here is that LC may charge you for access and the other lab will charge you to review it. But I can see why LC are being so difficult – they don’t want yet another embarrassing mistake made public.

    Here’s what else I noted from reading their pitiful website. They don’t give much details on how they do their testing (itself an alarm bell) and what they do test is 13 genetic markers (loci). All AABB accredited labs test 16 markers and even some of the dubious labs do too. Although AABB will allow exclusions if two markers are found to not match they recommend further testing as it is still possible for a man to be the father with two non-matching markers and to only exclude if three or more markers dont match.

    This is because genes mutate. In fact some parts of each of us do not have the same genes we born with because of mutation. If this happens to a sperm cell it means the DNA in that cell is different to the man’s DNA. If genes didn’t mutate species would be wiped out as it is a survival technique of nature (Darwin theory)! Therefore to prove that the non-matches are not mutations more markers must be tested – which costs money but would be done free of charge by most reputable labs.

    Sadly from reports I have read, LC sees two non-matches and excludes paternity when most reputable labs would only exclude if three or more don’t match.

    Also they do not detail a complaints process and contact details which any reputable business would do and they do not even mention counselling which is a vital part of what they do considering the impact their work has on lives. Most labs recognise this and offer contact details for counsellors as the minimum they can do to help.

    Crystal, you are very inspiring. I have been living with this for a month and it kills me, you have gone through over 9 months of this and you’re still here fighting for your daughter. On those days when you are struggling come on here and reread this site, you wouldn’t be human if there weren’t times when you wanted to give up but your strength and self-belief has kept you going, that is truly wonderful.

  • Ann

    Molly,
    Thank you so much for your support…and also everyone else on this page.
    I will continue to PRAY for all of you…and pray that the Lab will be held accountable for their mistake. I did do my test through the county. Unfortunately because my ex is SO furious at me, he will not voluntarily take the test again. The county has now requested to do a test on every one I was with in that two month time frame. There was only one other person and that was one and a half month later (which would have meant my baby would have been 2 month premature when she was born…and she was not). The doctor confirmed on my 3 ultrasounds that the date of conception was correct and their was NO WAY the baby was conceived by the other man. Of course the other man also wont test voluntarily so now we are in the process of serving him with legal court documents stating he is the father (just to get him to test so we can rule him out). Once he is served with the documents he will obviously contact the county and cooperate voluntarily and take the test. If he does not take the test and does not show up for court (scheduled in late January…how far away is that)…then a warrant for his arrest will be issued and he will be picked up by his local police department and forced to do the test. Once his test comes back “excluded” (as I know it will)…then at that point we will be able to take the medical documentation my doctor provided me with (indicating the correct date of conception was when I was with my ex) and bring them before the judge…and even though my ex has a right to fight it…99% of the time the judge will order him to take another test…especially since I have the medical documentation. Unfortunately they will still need to use labcorp because they are contracted with them but if that test comes back excluding him again…then they will ask the judge to use another lab to do the test. The problem here is that…in the meantime…he is missing out on her life. He just walked away. His life just moved on. He and his family think Im the liar. Im going through the worst nightmare of my life. I wonder what they are going to think when the test finally proves he really is her dad and the company made an error…and here he missed out on all this time with his daughter.
    It sure would be nice if he would just voluntarily agree to another test so we don’t need to go through this whole court process and wait months and months for him to see her again. Why would I be begging him to take the test again if I wasn’t 100% certain the test was wrong? Why cant he just cooperate?? He was a wonderful father to her…and now because of the WRONG results he just walked away and HATES ME
    This test has ruined my life!!! I will keep you all posted on the outcome…however it looks like it will be months down the road before I find anything out.
    I continue to PRAY that this will work out because that is all I can do at this time. I will continue to pray for all of you as well.
    Stand strong and keep your head up…everything will work out the way it is suppose to work out. In our times of weakness we find strength!!

  • Molly

    Hello Ann,

    Thank you for your reply. With every post that we all write on here I think we each identify it with our own situations. As much as I wish none of us were suffering, it is good to know we all understand what each other is going through and can be here for each other.

    When you write “He and his family think Im the liar… I wonder what they are going to think when the test finally proves he really is her dad and the company made an error…and here he missed out on all this time with his daughter.” I absolutely know what you mean. I ask myself that a hundred times a day. Will he still find some way to blame me for this situation or will he be totally destroyed, he’s already mentally unstable. I think this is why this has happened, if it hadn’t I wouldn’t have been aware of this other side to him and the potential problems we would have faced.

    He has told a lot of people what is going on including our mutual friends and our colleagues who are now not talking to me either. I’ve lost work as he was copying our boss into his emails even though it is none of her business either! There is no discretion, he even phoned my mother to tell her “what kind of daughter she has”!

    With regards to the medical evidence I had late scans so the date is not as accurate as a 6-8 week scan. However, they were very positive about the dating especially since two further scans had her at the 50th percentile as well for her gestational age. The conception window falls right around my birthday so of course I can be very sure of when she was conceived from the scan dates. Originally I was due for c/section at 37 weeks, if they weren’t sure about my dates this could have been very dangerous for the baby and me. When she was born, naturally thankfully, at 40+10 she she had no vernix, peeling skin and all the alertness and physique of a late baby, she has hit all her milestones 2-3 weeks early so far. None of this makes any difference to him of course, he’s convinced himself the dates are wrong or that they are right but we weren’t together then but either way she’s not his but my ex’s baby or maybe someone else’s… It just gets more and more irrational. Like you say, why would I take this test if I thought it would come back negative?

    I understand how hard the wait is too, I just want this to be over with so we can deal with the next stage. Like you I have to wait, doesn’t it feel like forever? The process for us is similar, I have to open a case for child support against him and he has to deny paternity. If they decide it necessary, the CSA will request he take a DNA test which he has to pay for. If he refuses he is automatically assumed to be the father. This takes about 6 weeks according to the CSA however I have heard from people that it has taken a couple of years for them to get a date for the test whereas others have got one pretty much straightaway. I hope we won’t have to wait, the CSA were very sympathetic when I spoke to them because of his behaviour towards us. Incidentally he is also accusing me of dragging things out because I don’t have “the moral fiber” to pay for a private test (with what money? I have a child to raise!) and because the situation is delayed because I didn’t register the baby sooner.

    The reason she was registered late firstly was because we couldn’t agree on a name. Again, my fault, apparently he was happy with a name straightaway (one that I didn’t like) and I was being difficult. Then after the test results I had to wait for him to decide if he wanted to be registered as her father because I knew if I refused to offer him the choice he would have assumed that it was because she was not his just as he has told me that if I refuse him another DNA test (the one he is expecting me to pay £400 for) it is an admission of guilt!

    It is frustrating that you can’t have both men tested at the same time and that the court won’t use a different lab. I can’t understand why they use LC still, I assume it because they are cheap which means in turn they are cutting corners to get through the volume of testing they have to do. How long has it been since you did the first test? Do you think that when the father (first man) has had time to process things and think things through he might decide he can’t bear to wait any longer too? I hope so, it would be so much better for all of you if this could be dealt with sooner.

    Even if it does take til January, we are still all here for you and each other, we are all on the same difficult journey it is better to travel together than alone and keeping each other going.

  • Crystal

    Molly~
    First off I would like to say your an amazing person. You have been through a lot with your ex, his family and your co-workers. People look at me like I’m crazy when I tell my story.. People have it in their heads DNA can never been wrong but if they were smart and stopped and thought about it humans process these test and there is always room for error. We all make mistakes at our jobs. The only difference is we stand by and fix our mistakes unlike Lab Corp. and the other dna places. I remember when I first got the results back how alone I felt and how I knew I was going to be judged. I have learned in life don’t assume or jump to conclusion and judge people because you are not in their situation. I want to say it takes a strong person to go through what you have. It’s hard enough getting the wrong results but on top of that to have to deal with people are narrow minded is something you should not have to deal with. Your daughter is so blessed to have a strong wonderful mommy! The truth will come in time and you better get some apologies..
    I did send my test results to a wonderful lab I found online. The woman that contacted me was awesome. I choose this lab because I read their information on DNA test. They had said that there can be mistakes in DNA and if the customers feels there was a mistake they investagate and re-do test so that customer is assured they get the right results. The woman that contacted me told me they could take a look at my results but sometimes it’s hard to tell just by seeing the results and not the actual test. She said that anything could have went wrong that there is mistakes that are made during DNA testing sometimes. She also told me by federal law they were not suppose to give my daughters dad choice on doing another test they were suppose to force it. Anyways she looked at my results basically told me to get another test done. I know I have a long road ahead of me but I know I have to FIGHT for my daughter.
    It sounds like your kind of in the same situation with the “girlfriend” thing too. I know my daughters dad would take another test if she was not in his life. I keep telling myself though that one day she will get hers for being so selfish and not supporting him. It kills me to know that he is supporting her kids finacly and emotionally but gives his own daughter nothing all because of a mistake made on a test. It makes me sad that he is missing out on her. He is missing out on a lot she is amazing and he has missed out on her first year of life. The same goes for your daughter he is missing out on her and I know she is amazing because her mommy is. I know for the both of us one day the truth will be known and we will finally be able be at peace again.
    I want to thank you for all your support and information you have given me. You are also truely wonderful and soooo STRONG most people could not face half of what you have faced. Hearing your story has giving me even more STRENGTH thank you so much for that.

  • Danielle

    Im glad we’re here for each other for support, but now its time to take action, their is power in numbers, and we need to come together and put together a class action lawsuit against LabCorp I think I know a lawyer who will take our case. So…whosever interested please respond.

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    Ann-

    Im not sure if you will be checking this blog anymore but I wanted to thank you! Thank you for your prayers, thank you for your kind words! I to feel the same way, I did test man #2. But as you say it truly is in Gods hands! What is done is done and no matter what I have to look at the bigger picture, I have a healthy beautiful baby boy! Who everyone loves. I was talking to my friend the other day and she thinks she wont be able to have children. No matter all of our circumstances, we all wanted these babies!! We all wanted to be mothers can you even being to think what life would be like with out them? What if we were like soo many of the women there are today with fertility problems and coould not bare children of our own??? How hard would life be like then? I would take not knowing who his father is over not being able to have him ANYDAY!!!!!!!I don’t want to sit around and cry and sit around and be sad!! we are all single women in 2009 being a single mom is OK and is do able!!! we are all strong, smart We can DO this!!!!!!!!! There is no “typical” families anymore.. other men raise other mens children ALL the time!! Its finding that great guy who will put your past behind you!! and LOVE you know matter what!!! Yes, it is good to have a man raise his own child, but as Ann said, it takes sperm to be a father it takes a man to be a DAD!!! After all these men have put us through, who says they will turn out to be good dads in the first place??? Lets be honest if we don’t know 100% who are childrens fathers are, they need to put a shoe on the other foot!!! Men sleep around MORE then women and truth be told if they could have children they would be in the same place as we all are!! or WORSE!!!!!!!! Love you children Ladies no matter the results no matter who their fathers are!!! You love them!!!!!!!! You wanted them (or else we all would have chosen to abort).. Lets all bring our strength together and love our children that much more!!!

    This site has given me so much strength and in site!!!!!!I’m not going to give up!! I’m here for ALL of you no matter day or night worries or none!!! We share the same problems and let us all love past it. We have eachother!!! Thank you all for being here for me!!!Your all in my prayers and thoughts EVERYDAY!!!!! no matter what!!!!!keep me posted on anything im here for you!

  • Crystal

    Danielle,
    I have been thinking about a law suit against LabCorp. since the day they destroyed my life. I would be more than happy to see where we could go with this.

  • Syreeta Johnson

    i’m in a situation withmyhusband and a girl.. we need testing to be redone also. Plese contact me by email if you have any informationthat canhelp me.sreddsfyi@gmail.com

  • Nicole

    I am in the same situation. The father of my daughter and I went through the states as well to get a paternity test just to close the moths of his family I didnt mind because I knew the excact date that I concieved so there was no doubt in my mind what was what. Our samples where also sent to Labcorp in NC and when they came back they had excluded him from being the father and this crushed our whole little family as we had it. There was nothing that I could say or do to make him believe that the test were not correct he packed his things and left because he felt like I had cheated on him. I was so devastated because I knew that I had not been with no other man therefore there was no way that there was another father but when the test came back and said differently he was not trying to hear anything and his family made it no better because they convienced him that the test dont lie and there is no way that they are wrong…Please if any one knows how this can be fixed please let me know he is not willing to do a re-test because his family again has told him that it wont matter she is not his. My baby deserves to have her father in her life and I need to Prove that he is her father.

  • Sonya

    I guess Lab Corp wasn’t the best choice for none of us. I had a DNA test done with this guy. First, he kept putting off the test. Then a month after my son and I tested he finally got tested. When the results came in the envelope was address to the wrong person. The picture of the father was not visible. And my son and him had 11 matching numbers, but the results they say are 0%. I know who I was with and he looks just like him. If you put their pics side by side my son looks more like him than me. What is a girl to do? I’m trying to get an attorney but can’t find anyone to take my case without coughing up a whole lot of money.

  • Andrea

    KY,
    Same thing is going on with me and GTL DNA! Haven’t pursued an in person test yet. Let me know if you find anything out!

  • Leslie

    Ladies I have the answer you have been waiting for, please please call me day or night my number is 858-232-2968. My daughter was tested through the county of san diego in 2003 and her test came back that my boyfriend mike was not the father and i knew this couldn’t be true, but his family had convinced him i was cheating and not to have anything to do with me. So there was nothing I could do until my grandma got sick a couple years later and passed away and he was very close with her and he came to the funeral and say my daughter and started saying he wanted to take another test cause she looked like him and he wanted us to work things out. I ended up getting pregnant shortly after we started dating and as soon he found out that I was pregnant again he bolted fearing the baby wouldn’t be his again well a dna test was once again done through san diego county in 2007 and dylan my son was infact his. When we compared my daughters test to my son’s test we noticed the same 13 genetic markers were used to test for parentage and that mikes dna was different on both forms which is impossible because your dna doesnt change over the course of your life. And when we compared my daughters dna to my mikes,it matched perfectly to all thirteen markers. Well I brought this to the countys attention and they resubmitted the dna to labcorp and they still had my daughters sample from 2003 and ran that against mikes new dna from my sons test and it was a match. I have filed a law suit calming neglegence on labcorps part. For 6 years my daughter has not known who her father was and now we finally know that I wasnt lying and that I wasnt sleeping around. Please call me i can put you in contact with my lawyer and tell you my story and get you started on fixing this mess. I have been where you guys are and I would love to help other victems of this terrible tragidy.

  • mark

    well only you know if you slept with anyone else, if you did then it’s not his if you didn’t then the test is wrong but it sounds like you did.

  • Crystal

    Leslie and Nicole please email me at polo_gurl_16@yahoo.com. I have questions for both of you.. Thank you! Crystal

  • Jennifer

    I have been going through a similar situation since 1994.
    My boyfriend at the time was 16 and I had just turned 18. At the time he lied about his age and said he was the same age. I did get pregnant and we went to court he was appointed a GDL becuase he was under age. I was not appointed any kind of council. They requested a blood test and I didnt care I knew he was the father. I was told that they either came back negative or I could go to jail of satutary rape. The tests came back negative. He was tested on Oct 5, with a swab test. My son and I was tested on oct 19 I was swab tested he had blood drawn.
    I was also on state care at the time. They closed my case and never asked for another possability which I thought it was the law that they did because I was on state care.
    My son and him are identical, the blood tests were also done through Labcorp in NC.
    I want another DNA test however I do NOT want to deal with the state because of what has happened. I was never even asked if there was another possability or father nothing.
    However in 2005 I lost my job and applied for state aid and my son was denyed because they said he already had INS. I said that is impossible who is covering him. They gave me the man’s name they had told me was NOT his father. However when I did further questioning no one would return my calls and there is no record now that my son was covered then.
    I need help.

  • Sassy

    Dee, I have gone through Identigene. The guy I thought was the father was not, so I had all guys tested that I was with that year, and they were all negative, which leads me to believe that something went wrong.

  • sally

    i don’t believe identigene.

  • Sassy

    I joke about being Mary also…I’m in the same situation.

  • chas

    i recently had a dna test to prove i am not the father of my grandson they took bucal swabs from myself and my grandson but refused to test his mother my step daughter the test came back with a match on all 13 strands with a double match on 5 of them as my daughter was 100 miles away when she concieved i refuse to believe the results expecially since there has never been any type of sexual contact between us to make matters worse they now think i am the bio father of my step daughter even tho i was over 1000 miles away for 3 years surounding her conception i truely feel lab corp has messed up the dna but the court refuses to have a new test done by an outside lab

  • Kimberly

    I just met who I have always been told is my biological father. We did paternity testing through GTLDNA basicly for his step-children’s benefit and it came back 0%. I have been devastated. My mother swears he is my father. I am so torn. I don’t know what to do.He says we will do it again but I am afraid to. Please, anyone with info on this lab… let me know.

  • Jasmine

    I think u should re-test. I had a test done with my daughter and I know for a fact that the test results came back wrong….. I tested the only other man i slept with and results were negative. Plus my daughter has all key features of her father….. If u feel in your heart that that man is your father RE-TEST.

  • Ann

    ****Update****
    It pains me to say that I WAS WRONG!!!
    The doctors were wrong…when they told me the date of conception…and even after three detailed ultrasounds during my pregnancy (all agreeing with the date of conception) it turns out that Labcorp was correct.
    The DNA test they performed was correct.
    As you can see from my previous posts…I seriously thought the test was wrong and I was ready to go forward with a lawsuit…but I openly admitt I was wrong. I guess I blame the doctor for the mistake she made. Even after I received the test results…I contacted the doctor and she told me she did not agree with the test because that means that my baby was born 2 months premature and they (as professional doctors) would have been able to tell if she was premature. Well…I guess even the doctors technology can be wrong.
    Anyways…there is a lot to the story but the bottom line is…I was wrong.
    The county took the biological father to court and the judge rewarded me full custody and ordered him to pay out monthy support to me.
    Prior to my court hearing my original boyfriend (who we though was the father) came back into my life and we agreed to be friends. We obvioulsy have a lot to work on and a long road to recovery but he is back…and i am just happy he is in my daugters life again. I have names him her Godfather. It has been two months now and we are closer than ever. He even came with me to the court hearing. We brought the baby and he sat with me until it was time to go into court and face the biological father.
    So…hang in there everyone…sometimes things have a way of working out…even when you think they possibly couldnt.
    I thank GOD for all my blessings and if it wasnt for my strong faith…I would NOT be here right now. I thought about killing myself MANY MANY MANY times…but I fought the urge and admitted myself intod an outp-patient mental health hospitalThe program helped me so much and without their heil and the help of my faith…I would be DEAD…there is NO DOUBT about that. I cried everyday when I found out that he was not the father, but through my faith…my strong strong faith…I was able to get through this. I encourage you to read the book of JOB in the bible. His story shows that even when we feel like God has abandoned us…he is always close by…as long as you continue to keep your faith in him and dont ever stop believing that things will work out in the end…the way they were and the way they are meant to work out.
    My prayers are with you all…
    May you find your strength in GOD and stand strong. I swear…he will get you through this…just continue to live your life from here on out…for GOD..live your life the way GOD intended you to live and the way he wants you to live. Do onto others as you would want them to do onto you. Forgive your enemies and do not sink to their level…it is NEVER okay to think “an eye for and eye”….that is the devil within talking to you. Learn how to be at peace and find your strength within…whatever you believe in…seek it out…seek GOD out…I promise you…he will never let you down as long as you continue to live your life FOR HIM!!
    God Bless everyone and I am sorry for any false hope I may have given you in my prior postings. I hope that the hope I give you now…is the hope that GOD WILL BE HERE FOR YOU. HE IS HERE FOR YOU AND HE WILL HELP GET YOU THROUGH THIS…KEEP YOUR FAITH STRONG AND DONT EVER GIVE UP ON THE BELIEF THAT EVERYTHING IN LIFE HAPPENS FOR A REASON….
    GOD BLESS…..
    Ann

  • Jasmine

    Linda,

    Have you found anymore information out about GTL?

  • Nicole

    Have you did anything about the test coming back worng. I feel as though my DNA test are incorrect and I need to do some thing to fix it. I have tried finding other post like this one to get different feed back but this is the only one that I have ran accross so I am still looking for answers this has really messed up mine and my daughters life and advice would be helpful. Thanks

  • Nicole

    Have you did any legal actions I am looking to geta re-test for my daughter. I understand you pain I found out the results to my dna in nov of 09 and we are still going through a taugh battle I still believe that the man that was excluded is my daughters father but the test say other so I am in need of any advice and what to do next.

  • Nicole

    Through the states at Labcorp.

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    who did you test with?

  • http://GTLDNA jordan

    Hey-

    I know I have written before and most of you know my background story. You might also know that I have written saying I was wrong and the DNA test must be right. However, I am almost sure that GTL is wrong 100% and this is why. When I wrote earlier my son was just born. He was born with blue eyes and black hair. He is now 6mths old and has blue eyes and blonde hair. Everyone must be thinking “whats the big deal” The big deal is – unlike most of you I slept with 2 men from 2 different races!! So I am not comparing 2 black men or 2 white men. I am comparing a 1/2 black male vs. a white male. My son is white with blonde hair and blue eyes. He doesn’t even have a little baby tan like everyone thought he would have. I have looked online for pictures of quarter black babies. The lightest one is Halle Berrys daughter. I know what you think, maybe your genes are stronger, but to look 100% just like me with no signs of anything. I don’t think so. Then I looked into race and DNA more. If they tested a white baby vs. what would be african american DNA would there be a difference? Some places say yes others no. I have filed through the courts and am waiting for a court date. As of now I am taking the 1/2 black 1/2 white male to court for child support and paternity. That way If I was wrong I don’t look like a total ass. But if I am right, I’ll have proof to bring to the other guy (who has stopped talking to me). I just feel so alone and I know my friends and family are tired of hearing how white he looks. They try to be nice about it, but I know hearing it for 6mths has taken a toll on them. I just needed to vent, get some feed back and some reassurance that I am doing the right thing and that im not crazy!!! I wish we could post pictures on here that way you would all see what I am talking about!!

  • Nicole

    Labcorp

  • Nicole

    Please keep us updated on how the test with Labcorp comes out. I had a test through the AG office with them as well and it excluded the man that I thought was the father from being the father. I know people say that looks dont mean anything and that the baby can look like the man and he not be the father but I have never heard of a child being left handed and no one in my family even down the line is left handed but the man that I thought was her father is left handed. How weird is that? I am considering another test I just have to get him to be willing to do the test because since the results we have been on really bad terms barely speaking. Please keep me post on the results you get from Labcorp. Thanks

  • BeBe

    Just wanted to follow up my original post. I did have the second man (the psychyo) tested and it was confirmed that he is NOT the father. Hmmmm… funny how that happens, must be a case of immaculate conception, right?

    Unfortunately, because of all the drama this has caused, I’m no longer speaking to the real father, and he now wants nothing to do with his son (who will be born in May). I am furious and hurt that a lab can act with such disregard – especially because he called the lab and they apparently are telling him the same thing they told me: that there is NO WAY a mistake was made… so I guess I’m just crazy, right? LOL!

    I am done with the drama and am just going to take him to court for child support – and I’m sure they will order another DNA test. I’m not really worried about the results, and I will keep fighting this for my son’s sake. It just truly saddens me to see how easily a man will walk away from his child because of a piece of paper. If the woman insists it has to be a mistake, the right thing to do is stand by her until it is confirmed one way or the other. If he was man enough to lay down with me and make the baby, he should be man enough to stand by me when I swear to him it’s his (and I have proven that it is).

    Ok, I’m done ranting. LOL!

  • bob

    hi,

    I lived in France and I appealed can you tell to say to myself more societe GTL DNA thank you

  • Chris

    hey i live in virginia and used identigene to see was I the father of a son, the results came back as “NO” 0 percent chance. I called identigene they operate out of UTAH and asked them some question about sample mix up possibilities stuff like that, everything is barcoded so they cant mix ur stuff up there very professional and I haven’t heard anyone bad mouth them with proven wrong results. The bad is it takes 4 to 6 weeks to get paper results in the mail but you can call them to hear over the phone just remember ur password u gave them when you sent those samples in, and also some courts are iffy about using mail in dna test so it may be declared imissable but then theyll send u to labcorp where youll probably have to pay again.