• Fri, Feb 21 - 10:30 am ET

Ariana Grande Is The Worst Kind Of Smug Vegan

Ariana Grande veganAriana Grande, a young Nickelodeon star and pop singer will be in V Magazine‘s spring music issue. The magazine will show her looking adorable in black and white and will have an interview. How exciting for Ariana Grande fans. I’m sure tweens love V Magazine.

In the interview (E! got an exclusive sneak peek), it seems like Grande is deliberately trying to come across as stand offish and tough, like 20-year-old people are wont to do. So, she talked about her vegan diet. Some manage to talk about their food choices and veganism in a way that doesn’t make other people roll their eyes; they talk about how a plant based diet makes them feel on a personal level, rather than acting as though their nutritional choices make them superior to meat and dairy eaters. Other vegans, like Grande, decide to go on the attack in order to defend their choice to eschew meat.

“In America, almost everybody thinks you need to have meat for protein. Protein, protein, protein! And what’s in dairy? Calcium, calcium, calcium,”

Fair enough, people are way too obsessed with protein and calcium. I totally agree, but then she starts getting weird.

“It’s those kinds of proteins that latch onto the insides of your blood- stream and make it easier for you to have a heart attack.”

Why is a 20-year-old pop star worried about a heart attack? Is she a nutritionist too?

“Look, cows produce milk with nutrients for cows.”

Yeah, and humans produce milk with nutrients for humans. Isn’t it weird that we drink milk from the teet of another mammal? Yes, I’ve written about it before. It’s creepy, but these kinds of statements make people sound like college freshman who took too many bong rips. This is why 20-year-old Nickelodeon stars shouldn’t be talking so broadly about nutrition.

She gets worse:

“Maybe that’s why Americans end up looking like cows!”

Yes, it’s definitely the dairy. Dairy is a reason for obesity in the United States, but not the reason. Not only is this sentence irritating because cow’s milk is consumed and obesity happens outside of America, but comparing fat people or any people to animals is so cruel. It is literally dehumanizing.

“Ultimately, no one wants cow tit pus in their food, do they?”

I think milk is gross too, but I’m not going to speak for everyone. Obviously some people do want cow tit pus in their food? I bet there’s even a cow tit porn fetish subreddit.

It’s easy to be a vegan when you are a young celebrity who is rich and doted on. Those fat cow Americans she’s scoffing at might have a harder life than that of a pampered pop star. There’s nothing wrong with being a vegan or talking about the benefits of that lifestyle, so why couldn’t she talk about her own health and how she feels rather than positioning herself above dairy and meat consumers and a group of straw-man Americans? If I were a vegan, I’d be embarrassed to have Ms. Grande portray veganism in this way. She’s not even talking about the ethical treatment of animals–girlfriend wears leather.

This post made me feel bad for criticizing someone born in 1993, but then I remembered that people who are 20 are the worst on Earth.

Via E!//Image via Getty

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  • Katrina

    I find it irritating that she is touting nutrition information that is off base to such a broad audience, especially since her fan base is children who look up to her. I don’t like milk either, but to refer to it that way makes it seem evil and when food is labeled in that way relationships to food become tricky. Perhaps she could have talked about the benefits she’s found of being vegan rather than bashing on other’s food choices.

    • Joanna Rafael

      I completely agree with you!

    • Joanna Rafael

      EXACTLY. She’s not qualified to make such broad statements. Would it be so hard for her to be like “I love being a vegan, it makes me feel so good?”

    • Athonwy Doherty

      Being Vegan is not about you though, it’s about others. If you aren’t doing it for the animals, then you’re not Vegan.

    • VeganD

      Not necessarily, you could be vegan for your health, or the environment!

    • Athonwy Doherty

      No, that would be a plant-based diet. Why would you stop wearing leather or wool for your health? Only vegans do that, because it’s about animal exploitation. Once again, if you aren’t doing it for the animals you are not Vegan. Veganism is not a diet.

    • Guest

      That’s not vegan. That is a plant-based diet.

    • Athonwy Doherty

      But cow milk isn’t human food, and children shouldn’t be drinking it.

    • Jack Orben

      Cause it is evil. It only benefits human diet because we have been brainwashed into believing it does where in reality the opposite is true. She isnt making any bold statement she is stating facts. I understand truth hurts and can be shocking. But oh well get over it. Most of humanity is WRONG. The end. Now go forth and evolve.

    • metal vegan

      Explain how exactly it is “off base”?

    • Katrina

      There have been no studies linking protein to heart disease. There have been studies that show the quality of protein, as well inflammatory foods such as dairy and grains are linked to heart disease though. As I stated above, I don’t consume dairy because my body doesn’t handle it, but it isn’t “pus.” I realize that you are probably passionate about your choices and they most likely work great for you, but I don’t believe there’s a one size fits all diet and the fact that science constantly proves and disproves theories shows that we don’t conclusively know what the “right” diet is. My main issue is that the way she framed her argument.

  • Jacq

    A 20 year old can worry about heart attacks. In fact, it’s being proactive about the possibility instead of eating shit your whole life and relying on medicine later on to “fix” the problem. So your comments are just as annoying.

    • Joanna Rafael

      People who eat healthy don’t necessarily do so because they are living in fear of heart attacks. I’m pretty sure she’s not being “proactive” about her heart health, but was just parroting something she heard about veganism. She’s not a nutritionist.

    • Athonwy Doherty

      And yet, as soon as people find out you are Vegan, they ALL become nutritionists, instantaneously!

    • glorybug

      Considering that you do not personally know her at all (that probably burns your ass), and are not a nutritionist yourself, how is it that you can read her mind and know what she thinks. Apparently, she is aware of how eating dairy and meat products causes heart attacks. That is exactly what being proactive is.

      But, don’t let me interrupt… you probably have some more Kardashian worshiping to do. Because all you have done is parrot uneducated, unscientific crap you probably get off of TMZ.

    • glorybug

      I’ll repost what you have deleted- Eating a healthy diet at a young age to avoid heart disease and an eventual heart attack it the very definition of “proactive”.

  • Sencho

    You’ll find as you get older that it’s best to ignore anyone under the age of 30. Very little that they say or do matters at all.

  • Athonwy Doherty

    This whole thing reminds me of the talk I used to hear back in the 80′s about gay people. “It’s fine if you’re gay, but I don’t want to hear about it/ keep it to yourself/ don’t be so flamboyant/ etc.”

    “it’s fine if you’re Vegan, but now I’m going to dictate how you should express yourself…”

    • Joanna Rafael

      Honestly, veganism is a very privileged choice and to equate the plight of vegans to that of homosexuals is ignorant at best.

    • Jack Orben

      No but to equate it to ones of animals paints a different picture doesnt it? Something perhaps your mind is not understanding is that vegans arent fighting for themselves. (ooo i better edit my post because she might pick me up on my typos and discredit me like cowards do)

    • Joanna Rafael

      I’m going to ignore your dehumanizing comparison of gay people to animals because that’s just sad and twisted.

      You don’t speak for all vegans, dude. Some people are doing it for animal rights, some people are doing it for their health, and some do it just to do it. Ariana Grande doesn’t seem to be fighting the good fight against factory farms and whatnot, does she?

    • Athonwy Doherty

      Comparing people to animals does nothing to insult humans, and everything to insult the animals.

      Once again, if you are eating a plant-based diet for your health, you are not Vegan.

    • metal vegan

      Unless you are a vegan and an activist, you can’t make much of a informed and educated assessment, can you? What was the reason you wrote this little piece of garbage… other than to display to the world how much of a bitch you are.

    • Kayla

      You really are a very condescending person.

    • glorybug

      You do realize, don’t you, that humans are animals as well? Oh, you didn’t? Well consider yourself educated. It is not an insult to compare people to other animals, because we are animals.

    • Alyson Melody

      Omnivorous animals who have evolved to be able to survive off a plant AND meat based diet. Whether or not someone decides to include meat is personal, but acting like it’s somehow unnatural for humans to eat other animals is warped.

    • Jack Orben

      You seems to have published this article to divine and conquer. Whether you are a vegan for health reason or just for a laugh you already won because every time you eat you help someone who could have been murdered for your pleasure, veganism is the easiest way to help the world with least effort. And this little girl isnt saying anything weird, shes young maybe she isnt wording things as well as she could be but from reading what she said it isnt anything that strange. I heard worse things said like “cows milk is good for you” or “humans have evolved to eat meat and without it we wouldnt have evolved in the first place”. Now thats stupid. Dehumanising comparison to gay people? Dehumanising? When you say dehumanise do you mean be not involved in genocides, destruction of the planet, destruction of species and so on and so on? Because if thats what you mean then to dehumanise is actually a compliment. You seem one of those people who think humans are special and divine. Well you know what, humans are not special or divine they are scum beyond any type of scum, filthy parasitic scum.

    • Kayla

      It’s *divide and conquer*

    • Jack Orben

      Really? Do you know what a typo is? Or are you a coward who instead of actually saying something with substance picks out on easy targets such as typos because you have nothing else to say. You are a coward. There you go I corrected it now why dont you give me some intelligence now. Im sure its wishful thinking though since you are a coward.

    • dms61757

      Wow, since these Ftards can’t come up with a defense for KILLING and EATING another being, they resort to calling out the typos LMAO To funny oh wait, it’s too lol

    • glorybug

      So “privileged” that even the poorest people can manage to live on it. Why don’t you educate yourself about a topic before you write about it?

    • Alyson Melody

      Sources please. That would revolutionise the nutritional status quo in regards to health inequalities. Who are these poor people and how are they managing it? My patients would love to know.

    • glorybug

      I’ll repost what you deleted. No, veganism is not a “very privileged choice”. The poor seem to manage to do it quite well.

  • steph. h.

    I think a lot of younger people are actually more nutritionally educated than many who are older and set in their stubborn ways…kind of like the person who is irritated and wrote the article…

    • Joanna Rafael

      I’m 24 and maintain a wildly healthy diet.

    • metal vegan

      I find it amusing that you are going to such great lengths to defend yourself. you are simply just making yourself look even worse (if that is possible).

    • HB

      I don’t want to stir the pot, but when someone critiques an article with ONLY ad hominem attacks (every comment has called the author of the post jealous or cruel in some way), how else do you respond? Just let it sit? If the commenters were just criticizing the article’s points, sure. But it’s all gotten really personal, and that’s why it’s hard to have any meaningful discussion of dietary choices.

    • glorybug

      They are also a lot more enlightened and a lot less envious about other people’s lifestyles. Pretty obvious that Ms. Rafael is just trying to snag her 15 minutes of fame by leeching off a successful person she is jealous of.

  • dms61757

    I loved every bit of what she said. It’s all TRUE…People don’t like to hear the truth of murdering an animal who wants to live. Watch Earthlings and Farm to Fridge if you have the stomach to do so. You should if your eating another living being

    • Joanna Rafael

      *you’re

    • Athonwy Doherty

      “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds…”

    • glorybug

      Seriously? Perhaps you should read your own post. It is filled with composition, grammar and spelling errors. Pot, meet kettle.

      You sound like a selfish, self-absorbed 14-year old snot, not a 24-year old adult woman. Grow up. Take an English class.

    • Jack Orben

      The magazine will show her looking adorable in black and white and will have an interview. (will have an interview? will include an interview?- would like to re word that to be more understandable?

      In the interview (E! got an exclusive sneak peek), it seems like Grande is deliberately trying to come across as stand offish and tough, like 20-year-old people are wont to do. – are wont do? what does that mean.

      I could have picked on your writing mistakes by I am not an intellectual coward. I have substance and information that I use to argue and I know for a fact that if you spell wrong or cant write grammatically correct sentence DOES NOT mean you are not intelligent. Dyslexic people or people who are simply less educated on grammar can be just as intelligent so stop your cowardice and make a point, if you actually have one to make. Listen I am sure you are a lovely person but your blog post is detrimental to changes we want to manifest ASAP! For goodness of humanity and the planet and all its inhabitants. So please open your mind before you become blind like the rest of humanity has been for a long time now.

    • Cappy

      Now look who is smug and arrogant. You are so full of yourself thinking that your knowledge of grammar is important. But you lack any knowledge on how to make the world a better place. You love the status quo and you write to the mindless masses because it is a large audience, it is easy and doesn’t take much effort, and it comforts you to have people agree with you. You are the type of person who would never stand up against the status quo because your popularity is more important to you than anything altruistic, ethical, or truthful.

  • dms61757

    I loved every bit of what she said. It’s all TRUE…People don’t like to hear the truth of murdering an animal who wants to live. Watch Earthlings and Farm to Fridge if you have the stomach to do so. You should if your eating another living being

  • dms61757

    There are vegans that are disgusted with animal torture and she is fighting for the animals…… She’s pissed off and I don’t blame her…Humans are disgusting and kill everything

    • Joanna Rafael

      How do you know she is fighting for the animals?

    • metal vegan

      you are obviously not very smart. also, this is all over facebook where you have also become immensely unpopular, disliked, and mocked.

    • glorybug

      Doesn’t really matter. Anyone who goes vegan is helping animals, whether they intend to or not.

    • dms61757

      DONALD WATSON, 1910 – 2005

      Donald Watson was the founder of The Vegan Society.

      After witnessing the killing of a pig on his uncle’s farm, the 12
      year old Donald made a New Year Resolution never again to eat meat. At
      that time he did not know anything about vegetarianism, but he did
      become active in the vegetarian movement as an adult, and came into
      contact with other vegetarians, some of whom also avoided the use of
      dairy products and eggs. He soon came to share this
      philosophy and tried to set up a non-dairy section within the Vegetarian
      Society, but only met with hostility from those who still enjoyed their
      cheese omelettes.

      By this time, World War Two was under way, but the vegetarian
      movement continued, run by the older generation, those medically excused
      from military service, and conscientious objectors. Donald
      Watson was a CO, but had to do war service as a firewatcher and
      firefighter in addition to his day job as a woodwork teacher.

      By
      1944, Donald had given up trying to form a non-dairy section within the
      Vegetarian Society, and decided, along with a few like-minded pioneers,
      to form a totally new society for ‘non-dairy vegetarians’. The question
      arose of what to call it. One evening, he and his fiancé, Dorothy
      Morgan, were chatting at a social event when they had a moment of
      inspiration and thought up the word ‘vegan’ – ‘the beginning and end of
      vegetarian’, so the new society, formed in November 1944, was called
      ‘The Vegan Society’ from its inception. At first this was
      only a provisional name until someone came up with a better one, but the
      word ‘vegan’ caught on and has now entered, not only the English
      language, but many other languages as well.

      For the first two years, Donald ran The Vegan Society single-handedly from his home in Leicester. He produced a newsletter, Vegan News,
      which he posted out to 500 readers, he answered countless letters, he
      lobbied the Ministry of Food for special rations for vegans, like the
      extra cheese allowed to vegetarians in place of the meat ration. All on top of his teaching work and wartime duties!

      As life got back to some kind of normality after the war, The Vegan
      Society formed a committee to share the work which Donald had done. Donald
      was on the committee himself for a while, until he married Dorothy,
      secured a teaching post in the Lake District, and moved to Keswick,
      where he spent the rest of his very long life. He never
      again took a very active part in running The Vegan Society, but he and
      Dorothy were active in the Cumbrian Vegetarian Society for many years,
      and Donald kept in touch with his many vegetarian and vegan friends and
      was an avid reader of the magazines ‘The Vegetarian’ and ‘The Vegan’
      until his death at the age of 95.

    • dms61757

      Veganism /ˈviːɡənɪzəm/ is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products, particularly in diet, as well as following an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of sentient animals. A follower of veganism is known as a vegan.

    • dms61757

      Anytime a person stops looking at an another being as a commodity, and changes their heart and mind, they are helping animals…

  • dms61757

    “Vegans are so judgmental!”

    Is that so? Aren’t those of you who eat meat really the ones who “judge”? After all, don’t you decide which animals are to be born, grown and killed on your behalf? Don’t you judge that it’s okay to killmale chicks so you can “enjoy” eggs? Don’t you judge that it’s acceptable to steal babies so you can indulge in their mother’s milk? Don’t you judge that it’s ethical to pay someone to kill animals for you –not out of need, but simply for your own pleasure? Your dollars will even buy you the myth that it’s all “humane“… No muss, no fuss! And how fortunate you are that your neighbors, friends and family all share the same judgment.

    You judge it acceptable to confine animals to tiny crates and warehouses for their entire lives so that you might pay a few pennies less in the checkout line. You judge it to be only a loss of property if sometimes those places burn to the ground with the animals trapped inside. You judge that the bodies of animals can be used for flesh, fur…and fun. You judge that it’s okay to dominate and willfully terminate the lives of horses, pigs, cows, chickens, mice, ducks, geese, starlings, frogs, prarie dogs, bears, foxes, coyotes, bobcats, wolves, rabbits, fishes, alligators and all other nonhuman beings. Why? Well, because you’ve judged them to be either desirable or undesirable. As a nonvegan, it is you who judges that it’s acceptable to manipulate, castrate, impregnate, and eviscerate others.

    Still, we’re told over and over again: it’s the veganswho are judgmental.

    But the way I see it, as a vegan, I’m not deciding who lives or dies just so I can have a leather couch or a woolen scarf or an ice cream cone. I’m not the one who “judges” that it’s okay to imprison elephants, tigers or dolphins and force them to perform tricks for my kids. I’m not the one who supports the purebred and puppy mill dog industries because I “judge” some dogs to be better than others.

    No, as a non-vegan, you’re the “judge” of all that.

    Vegans aren’t the ones putting animals on the earth only to judge how they should be used and when/how/why they should be killed. I don’t know that there could possibly be anything more “judgmental” than deciding who will live and who will die. So please… The next time you have the urge to call a vegan “judgmental,” take a good, long, honest look in the mirror of your conscience and you be the judge. – By Bea Elliot

    • Kayla

      Your deflecting from the fact that some people have a moral view of what they think people should or shouldn’t eat – that is being judgemental.

    • Jack Orben

      What? You are making a point of nothingness. Murder is murder regardless who you kill. “Stop being judgmental I only killed a sheep”. Your brain sounds like a pile of shit.

    • fact

      wtf? you are the one that is clearly confused of what the definition of murder is. Murder is the unlawful killing of a person not an animal. You sir clearly has the one who has a brain of an airhead.

    • Jack Orben

      Murder in a man made book yeah, murder in the book of universe is worded bit differently i think but since as a human you think you are better than everything that isnt human (and possible some humans too) its hard for you to grasp that yeah?

    • CanoLuv

      I don’t see anything wrong with eating meat because tons of animals consume other organisms in order to survive. Vegans are definitely judgmental because they judge other people for something that happens naturally in the ecosystem. If we choose not to eat a pig or chicken, they may be possibly eaten by other animals. And that part about imprisoning animals, did we want that to happen? Are all “meat-eaters” involved? Deciding who will live and who will die? Does becoming a vegan significantly change the course of nature itself? I honestly don’t think. I wish vegans would just accept the fact that people have different outlooks and beliefs that we must respect. I respect your beliefs, but complaining about being called “judgmental” when you yourself are doing the exact same thing.

    • Molly

      Humans are naturally herbivores. I would go into more detail, but I can’t be bothered. Google it.

  • dms61757

    Animal Liberation.

  • yogachick

    Johana Rafael is the worst kind of writer. She sounds so defensive, like she’s jealous and has a big chip on her shoulder or something, but I LOVE what Ariana said! She speaks the truth! Good for her!

    • Yesenia

      Fact! Agreed. She sounds as if she herself is guilty. This is a poorly written article and a waste.

    • Joanna Rafael

      :::::wipes pus off mouth::::: guilty as charged.

    • dms61757

      What, she tells the truth and you can’t handle it???? Google is your friend, you might want to try it, unless you want to stay in the dark

    • Alyson Melody

      Joanna mentioned multiple times that she acknowledges the benefits of veganism. It’s Ariana’s attitude that’s the problem, not her lifestyle choices.

    • Joanna Rafael

      My name is written near the top of the page and you couldn’t scroll up in order to spell it right.

    • Lily Flor

      You need to check your facts! Guilty much? The truth hurts! You are making stuff up and making it seem different than how Adriana intended, there is no other way of saying that meat eaters are cruel and that your diet is the worse, vegans choose a compassionate diet and don’t feel superior to anyone, not dogs or cats or pigs, all animals are capable of feelings, but not you! Obviously!

    • Joanna Rafael

      What did I make up? People who don’t feel superior to anyone don’t leave comments like yours.

    • metal vegan

      Have you considered that your next little attempt at writing be titled “how to be an ignorant cunt”?

    • fact

      welp have you also considered to call yourself an asshole then?

    • glorybug

      People who don’t eat other animals ARE superior. Especially to jealous wannabe writer hacks who have to cack on other people because they don’t have the balls or intelligence to eat a healthy vegan diet.

      I really wish you could see how jealous and petty this blogpost came across. I am going to guess the rest of your blog is filled with the same kind of vicious sniping at people who are more successful than you.

    • Alyson Melody

      One aspect of social justice that Joanna discusses a lot in her posts is the right to personal choice. I’m pretty sure the foundation of the Bill of Rights is similar: do what you want as long as it doesn’t get in the way of other people doing what they want. Insulting someone for eating something you don’t like is petty and weird. I understand – as a non meat eater – that animal rights is important. However, other animals are, indeed, a natural source of protein for humans. The way most meat is procured nowadays is horrendous, but that just means it’s even more essential to EDUCATE meat eaters about the importance of responsible sourcing. If you want to eat animal products and byproducts, and get them from reputable places, then that’s awesome.

    • Guest

      I’ve always hated people who thought they were superior because of their lifestyle. Like “I live like this so I’m SO MUCH BETTER than you”.

      This is exactly what Grande did. Anyone (especially at her young, inexperienced age) who does that is just rude! And obviously think very highly of themselves. Getting pissed off and bitching about “cow tit pus” is not only rude but extremely immature. I’m 16 years old (just FYI, that’s 20-4, which makes me four years younger than Grande) and if I’m mature enough to realize this than obviously there’s something wrong with how she presents her argument, and she needs to grow up.

      Her argument WOULD have been mature if sheI’ve always hated people who thought they were superior because of their lifestyle. Like “I live like this so I’m SO MUCH BETTER than you”.

      This is exactly what Grande did. Anyone (especially at her young, inexperienced age) who does that is just rude! And obviously think very highly of themselves. Getting pissed off and bitching about “cow tit pus” is not only rude but extremely immature. I’m 16 years old (just FYI, that’s 20-4, which makes me four years younger than Grande) and if I’m mature enough to realize this than obviously there’s something wrong with how she presents her argument, and she needs to grow up.

      Her argument WOULD have been mature if she had said anything alone the lines of “I’m a vegan because I love animals, and I feel really healthy with the diet- who doesn’t love fruit and veg?”, possibly even throwing in “I think carnism is cruel” and “milk is gross”.

      But slamming carnism? “Cow tit pus?” That’s not okay.

      Telling someone they’re eating the pus of a cow’s tit is rather disgusting and rude. Some class, huh?

      Not to mention the fatphobic comment that milk ‘makes people look like cows’. That’s a statement that implies fat people are ugly and look like animals- which is not true in the slightest. And in the day and age for women, ‘fat’ means anything over 120 lbs really. So pretty much what Grande’s saying is that a majority of women over 25 are fat cows? That’s not only rude but stunningly inaccurate- not everyone who drinks milk is fat.

      My friend Aliza is a carnist, and she also conveniently has a glass of milk every day during breakfast! She also happens to be 5’7 ft tall and weigh 105-107 lbs. Cows weigh on average 1600 lbs. She’s SUCH a cow, isn’t she?

      The way I see it, veganism is a lifestyle choice, as is carnism. Bashing people for how they eat is that exact same thing as bashing religion or tradition. It’s bashing the way they choose to live, and that’s not okay- especially when you’re a privileged rich, thin, conventionally attractive white female who’s just barely out of the womb.

      Like the Arab woman who is frequently told by white women about how it’s wrong for her to dress like that and assume that she MUST be beaten by her husband, even though for some that’s how they prefer to dress and they aren’t actually beaten! Or how Hitler thought the Jewish lifestyle/stereotype was bad, so the “Aryan” race is SO superior and let’s kill all the Jews!

      To argue why your lifestyle is best with pros and cons is fine, but to diss another lifestyle with crude and unclassy phrases like “cow tit pus” or to blatantly say in childish all-caps that you ARE superior is just plain wrong.

      “People who don’t eat other animals ARE superior”

      What are you a fckin nazi

      (Oh and just FYI, I’ve been vegan for three years. Isn’t it kind of sad that a 16-year-old with the same views as you is more mature and polite about them than you are?) had said anything alone the lines of “I’m a vegan because I love animals, and I feel really healthy with the diet- who doesn’t love fruit and veg?”, possibly even throwing in “I think carnism is cruel” and “milk is gross”.

      But slamming carnism? “Cow tit pus?” That’s not okay.

      Telling someone they’re eating the pus of a cow’s tit is rather disgusting and rude. Some class, huh?

      Not to mention the fatphobic comment that milk ‘makes people look like cows’. That’s a statement that implies fat people are ugly and look like animals- which is not true in the slightest. And in the day and age for women, ‘fat’ means anything over 120 lbs really. So pretty much what Grande’s saying is that a majority of women over 25 are fat cows? That’s not only rude but stunningly inaccurate- not everyone who drinks milk is fat.

      My friend Aliza is a carnist, and she also conveniently has a glass of milk every day during breakfast! She also happens to be 5’7 ft tall and weigh 105-107 lbs. Cows weigh on average 1600 lbs. She’s SUCH a cow, isn’t she?

      The way I see it, veganism is a lifestyle choice, as is carnism. Bashing people for how they eat is that exact same thing as bashing religion or tradition. It’s bashing the way they choose to live, and that’s not okay- especially when you’re a privileged rich, thin, conventionally attractive white female who’s just barely out of the womb.

      Like the Arab woman who is frequently told by white women about how it’s wrong for her to dress like that and assume that she MUST be beaten by her husband, even though for some that’s how they prefer to dress and they aren’t actually beaten! Or how Hitler thought the Jewish lifestyle/stereotype was bad, so the “Aryan” race is SO superior and let’s kill all the Jews!

      To argue why your lifestyle is best with pros and cons is fine, but to diss another lifestyle with crude and unclassy phrases like “cow tit pus” or to blatantly say in childish all-caps that you ARE superior is just plain wrong.

      “People who don’t eat other animals ARE superior”

      Which leads me to a very important question-
      wat r u a fckin nazi??

      (Oh and just FYI, I’ve been vegan for three years. Isn’t it kind of sad that a 16-year-old with the same views as you is more mature and polite about them than you are?)

    • Euca

      I’ve always hated people who thought they were superior because of their lifestyle. Like “I live like this so I’m SO MUCH BETTER than you”.

      This is exactly what Grande did. Anyone (especially at her young, inexperienced age) who does that is just rude! And obviously think very highly of themselves. Getting pissed off and bitching about “cow tit pus” is not only rude but extremely immature. I’m 16 years old (just FYI, that’s 20-4, which makes me four years younger than Grande) and if I’m mature enough to realize this then obviously there’s something wrong with how she presents her argument, and she needs to grow up.

      Her argument WOULD have been mature if she had said anything alone the lines of “I’m a vegan because I love animals, and I feel really healthy with the diet”, maybe even throwing in a cute little “who doesn’t love fruit and veg?”, a deeper “I think carnism is cruel”, or a sassy little “milk is gross”.

      But slamming carnism? “Cow tit pus?” That’s not okay.

      Telling someone they’re eating the pus of a cow’s tit is rather disgusting and rude. Some class, huh?

      Not to mention the fat-phobic comment that milk ‘makes people look like cows’. That’s a statement that implies fat people are ugly and look like animals- which is not true in the slightest. And in the day and age for women, ‘fat’ means anything over 120 lbs really. So pretty much what Grande’s saying is that a majority of women over 25 are fat cows? That’s not only rude but stunningly inaccurate- not everyone who drinks milk is fat.

      My friend Aliza is a carnist(BTW I’m a vegan who’s friends with a carnist! How bizarre IKR!? I’m surprised she hasn’t tried to kill me and serve me for dinner in all her savagery!), and she also conveniently has a glass of milk every day (EVERY DAY, just for emphasis) during breakfast! She also happens to be 5’7 ft tall and weigh 105-107 lbs. Cows weigh on average 1600 lbs. She’s SUCH a cow, isn’t she?

      The way I see it, veganism is a lifestyle choice, as is carnism. Bashing people for how they eat is that exact same thing as bashing religion or tradition.

      Don’t get me wrong! Grande is very talented, especially at her young age. But bashing the way someone else chooses to live is not okay- especially when you’re a privileged rich, thin, conventionally attractive white female who along with not understanding other people’s struggles is just barely out of the womb.

      Like the Arab woman who is frequently told by white women about how it’s wrong for her to dress like that and assume that she MUST be beaten by her husband, even though for some that’s how they prefer to dress and they aren’t actually beaten! Or how Hitler thought the Jewish lifestyle/stereotype was bad, so the “Aryan” race is SO superior and let’s kill all the Jews!

      To argue why your lifestyle is best with pros and cons is fine, but to diss another lifestyle with crude and classless phrases like “cow tit pus” or to blatantly say in childish all-caps that you ARE superior is just plain wrong.

      “People who don’t eat other animals ARE superior”

      That statement leads me to a very important question-

      wat r u a fckin nazi

      (Oh and just FYI, I’ve been vegan for three years. Isn’t it kind of sad that a 16-year-old with the same views as you is more mature and polite about them than you are?)

    • glorybug

      She does come across as bitterly jealous. Especially her comments about how young her target is, and her comments presuming that she is only vegan because she has some ‘special’ Hollywood preferential treatment.

      Hello, you can be vegan and poor.

      Sounds like a lot of envy.

    • HB

      You can also try and sell veganism with all the wrong reasons; it’s irresponsible for a 20 year old teen idol to say you should quit meat and dairy so you don’t end up looking like a cow. I know more fat vegans than thin ones, too. And I don’t eat meat, so don’t assume I’m jealous for a lack of control or whatever it is everyone’s spouting here.

    • Kayla

      Maybe you should stop projecting what you assume may be someone’s reasons for writing an article like this. If I was a vegan I would have more dignity than to praise the leather skirt wearing Ariana Grande like you seem to be doing.

    • Jacqueline Carmen

      YES! Love your comment!

  • Jay Gordon, MD, FAAP

    This is an unkind post. And, yes, whole cow’s milk is the number one source of saturated fat in a child’s diet. Ms. Grande is accurate, not arrogant and undeserving of your opprobrium.

    • Arash Arabasadi

      Opprobrium? Really?

    • Joanna Rafael

      Is it unkind for me to wonder what an MD is doing commenting on blogs?

    • metal vegan

      is it unkind for any of us rational people to wonder what the hell you are doing writing?

    • glorybug

      No, but it is kind of stupid. Why wouldn’t a doctor post on a blog, especially one related to health, and especially if the blogger didn’t appear to be particularly educated about what they were blogging about?

  • Lilly

    She has a right to her opinion. Everyone should calm down. This is a sweet young girl who knows what she is doing. What she is saying is true by the way. The only reason she is saying negative things about a non vegan diet is to aware other people (selfless act on her behalf).. Instead of saying “I love being vegan it makes me feel good” and just brushing it under the rug, she is talking about something which she knows will rub people the wrong way. I am vegan, I understand why she may have talked about the negatives instead of positive. Usually when people ask me about being vegan I always say “it makes me feel good and I love it”… I don’t want to say that though. I feel like I have to though, to avoid backlash from uneducated people who simply don’t understand the facts. Ariana is right, I support her statement.

  • tessa

    Ariana Grande, you rock! Keep it up, girl!

  • Lisa V Dugan Brochu

    Wow I am shocked at the offense this writer has against Arianna. Nutritionist barely know anything about nutrition they learn what has been taught for so many years. She speaks the truth and just because some havent done any research to learn the truth about Americans being fat and sick from all the animal milk and meat doesn’t mean she is wrong. I loved every word she learned early and she rocks!!

    • Kayla

      Meat does not intrinsically make a person fat.

      “A 4 weeks exposure to 200g lean meat added to the habitual diet of healthy young woman resulting in high-protein intakes seems not to produce adverse effects on body composition, concentrations of blood lipids, insulin, glucose, and THC compared with an exclusion of all meat products.”

      http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jnme/2011/210930/

  • john

    obesity in children is skyrocketing.. mandatory dairy in schools is a large part of that. http://www.notmilk.com/forum/279.html this article was completely appropriate and warrants an apology for journalistic ignorance. ‘worst kind of smug vegan’ is completely off.

    • Joanna Rafael

      “journalistic ignorance.” :) Thank you for your comment.

    • glorybug

      What is worse, a smug vegan, or a judgmental wannabe journalist that can’t write for shit?

  • Kayla

    I smell a guilty conscience from the writer… GET A LIFE and quit letting the way this chick talks determine if murdering animals is wrong. Go eat your dog if you are so confident in your food choices!

    • Joanna Rafael

      I’m not hungry.

    • Alexis Rhiannon

      I agree with her and AM hungry but don’t have a dog — please advise.

    • glorybug

      What a stupid slag response. But hey, thanks for making such a stupid blogpost that will bring even more attention to the healthfulness of a vegan diet. Sorry about all the scorn and derision you’ve brought on yourself, though.

    • Kayla

      Go eat a fern if you are so confident in your food choices!

  • Audrey-Ann Boutin

    Ariana Grande is awesome and she is speaking the truth. You are so jealous. Go vegan and stop complaining :)

    • Joanna Rafael

      :) :) :)

  • Toby

    I saw nothing weird about that… “she goes on the attack”… wow, look out, we got a healthy one over here, talking about… health… and not wanting to drink pus. -Such extreme.

    • Joanna Rafael

      Can you reword this so it makes sense?

    • glorybug

      Perhaps you should just try really, really hard to read and comprehend what they wrote. Based on the jealous drivel you wrote, I understand if that might be difficult for you.

    • metal vegan

      It made perfect sense to me. This chick writes like a 6th grader, so I assume her lever of understanding is about the same.

    • Kayla

      *level*

  • xdariusx

    Worst thing I’ve read on here. Please fire this clown. This isn’t journalism, it’s grade school level complaining. What’s this guy’s issue? Jealous much?

    • Joanna Rafael

      This isn’t journalism, it is blogging. You’re looking in the wrong place for news.

    • Alexis Rhiannon

      Perhaps you can recommend a circus? You seem knowledgeable and not at all reactionary.

    • glorybug

      It does sound like an 8th-grade school assignment.

  • Susen A. Hunter

    This article smells strongly of butthurt.

    • Joanna Rafael

      Your use of the word butthurt makes me think you need to take a breather from the internet for a minute. Perhaps read a book? Vegans and meat-eaters alike love Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer.

    • glorybug

      Nailed it. I can smell the butthurt through my screen.

  • Jack Orben

    This article was written by a cretin. It has no substance at all, it appears childish and pseudo intellectual. This girl shows more intelligence in one sentence than this whole article attempts to in its full length. For example you pretty much said Yes drinking milk taken from another mammal is weird but who gives a sh+t about facts! Facts insult people, you dont want to be insulted by facts!

    • Joanna Rafael

      Aww you hurt my feelings with your name-calling.

    • Jack Orben

      you hurt mine with your garbage

    • Joanna Rafael

      :( I criticized a popstar and it hurt your feelings?

    • metal vegan

      No, little girl. He was being ironic and making fun of your cluelessness.

    • Julia Sonenshein

      Wait, what is irony?

    • Jack Orben

      I dont even know who this girl is. Some pop star you say, i dont care, i care that she is making a stand however and just because she maybe got something wrong so be it. She is doing more for the planet than most people who call themselves intellectuals so you criticising her is slowing down the collapsing of the “house of cards”. Criticise people who do evil no the ones who are trying to do good.

    • glorybug

      She sounds like a pouty 14-year old who is jealous because she’s not the “popular” girl. With poor writing skills and a nasty attitude.

    • Kayla

      It’s ironic of you to say that, you’re acting like a 2 year old having a tantrum.

  • Gina McCaughran

    She is a compassionate strong young lady and it sounds like the idiot who wrote this article is feeling a little defensive about their own bad choices……just ssyin : )

  • J. Jay

    Blisstree – please don’t post anything written by Joanna Rafael. Hers is blogging gone bad, not enlightening journalism.

    • Joanna Rafael

      Blogging isn’t journalism. Please go elsewhere for hard-hitting news.

  • Aurélien Trento

    This girl is a good person.

    You, the writer, you’re just an ass. Fuck you from france.

    • Alexis Rhiannon

      What a resilient ‘fuck you’ to cross the Atlantic! You must eat a lot of red meat!

  • Neringa

    Wow, so if the 20 year old pop star should not talk about nutrition, how is this no matter how old person should write and publish anything ever??? the article is absolute of no worth. It might be shocking, but even if you are much older than 20 and try hard, and eat meat and dairy, you still know nothing about nutrition, or vegans.
    This is again only showing how disgusting some humans can get…

    • Joanna Rafael

      You may want to readjust your threshold for what is and isn’t disgusting if you think I’m some sort of extreme example.

    • glorybug

      I imagine if she had talked about really shallow things, like what makeup she buys, what designer clothes she bought, and which kind of double mocha latte she prefers, all would be well.

      Talking about how dairy products cause obesity tends to get obese people’s knickers in a twist.

  • Kay

    what a poorly written article! if you’re going to hate on someone for being a good person, and you can’t even write well… why bother?
    Now she has to follow your standards of what someone her age “should” talk about? so stupid! let her be! Good for her that she is vegan! She’s trying to make a difference in the world, what are you doing writing something this stupid?

    • Joanna Rafael

      Where does she say she’s trying to make a difference in the world? She just calls other Americans fat…

    • glorybug

      Ah. I get it now. You aren’t pissed about the veganism. You are pissed because you are obese and she is not. Now it all makes sense.

      I have an idea… try a vegan diet and lose that weight that is making you so bitchy and petty.

    • Julia Sonenshein

      I just lost five pounds but I still feel really bitchy and petty. What did I do wrong?

    • Travestine

      What about all the fat vegans? What’s their excuse??

  • aimee

    Ive emailed the journalist what a dreadful piece of misinformed nonsense. Ariana is a lovely caring compassionate women. I am proud to call myself a vegan along side her.

    • Joanna Rafael

      I’m a blogger, not a journalist.

    • glorybug

      Ah. So bloggers have low standards, are unprofessional, and lash out at other people they are jealous of because of their talent or fame? Got it.

    • Alexis Rhiannon

      Grammar is a thing that are fun also eating aminals.

    • glorybug

      Do you drunk-comment much?

  • wdcurry

    The plethora of comments state most of what is on my mind, so i won’t repeat except to say that yet again we see somebody (the author of this short article) not comfortable with a message contrary to the cognitive dissonance so rampant in our culture.. Good for this young vegan.

    • Alexis Rhiannon

      Thanks for not repeating what was already said.

  • Kale Cassava

    Wow this article is ridiculous! Ariana is absolutely right in everything that she said. Kudos to her for standing up for the animals and not being some mealy-mouthed celebrity aiming to crowd-please. And, yes, vegans *are* morally superior to people who choose to eat the flesh of other living individuals… just as a non-racist is morally superior to a racist, or how a non-rapist is morally superior to a rapist, etc.. The writer of this article is uninformed, uneducated, ignorant, and is simply going off on some rant about something that pissed them off. There is ZERO intelligence to be found in the author’s statements and hollow criticism.

    • Joanna Rafael

      Meat eating is not akin to rape or racism. What is wrong with you?

    • Athonwy Doherty

      Try reading “The Dreaded Comparison” and “The Sexual Politics of Meat” and then get back to us about that statement.

    • metal vegan

      Meat, milk, and egg consumption is akin to both rape and racism… but with the added bonus of murder.

    • Julia Sonenshein

      This is really, truly embarrassing for you.

    • Kayla

      “The sloppy use of analogy is a treacherous form of logic and has a high potential for false conclusions.” ~ Laird Wilcox

    • Travestine

      Go ahead, step out from behind a pseudonym and an avatar, write a real article and claim that consumption of animal products is ‘akin to rape and racism’. The rest of the human race will tear you apart – with its ‘non-carnivore’ teeth.

    • metal vegan

      Yeah… it’s the same. But keep telling yourself that you are no where as guilty as a rapist or anyone else that has done some horrific act because yours is sanitized and you can simply buy your rape and murder at a store. Please think before you speak.

    • Kayla

      I totally agree, it’s a very bad analogy to make.

    • elle

      What the fuck are you talking about? You should be embarrassed about comparing eating meat to rape and racism-and that’s coming from a vegan. You probably aren’t though which is a real shame.

    • metal vegan

      Sorry to speak the truth, but it is about consent and abuse.

    • wormywyrm
    • glorybug

      You are correct in your assertation that people who do not use, abuse and kill other living beings are superior to those who do not. Logically, that includes offensive abuses like rape and racism. And yes, the blogger (can’t really call that whiner an author) appears to be very uneducated and uninformed about the topic she attempted to write about.

  • fifthlevelvegan

    The Joanna doth protest too much, methinks.

    • Joanna Rafael

      You’re making me crave ham.

    • metal vegan

      “I don’t give a shit about her feelings… rape is fun!”

    • glorybug

      Now you’re just acting like a full-on cunt.

    • Julia Sonenshein

      What is a full-on cunt versus a half-way cunt? Does it have to do with liking ham? I’m not crazy about ham but I do love bacon, so I feel like that might make like…75% cunt? Please advise.

    • Travestine

      There we go. When there are no arguments left, resort to profanity. It was just a matter of time.

  • Sam Inoue

    I’m a vegetarian, but I would never shove it in other people’s faces like this. I hate vegan/vegetarians who shame other people for how they eat. Eating, like everything else, is a personal choice and it is wrong to judge other people so outright. Parts of what she is saying are correct, but she is being a little brutal.

    • Joanna Rafael

      Exactly! It’s personal. Regardless of what militant vegans in this comments section keep saying does spouting the alleged “truth” require she compare people to cows? Everyone gets to choose their own choice and that choice should be respected.

    • glorybug

      Humans and cows are both animals. Yes, it is a valid comparison. Especially when humans drink cow milk, which is genetically designed to get their baby calf to gain hundreds and hundreds of pounds quickly… but refuse to face the fact that dairy product are a major cause of obesity.

      At some point, especially since we all share the medical burden obesity and the health complications it causes, no, talking about healthy eating habits are not “personal”.

      As far as your choices — make your own choice, but do not expect sympathy from me when you whine about your obesity, your diabetes, and all the other health problems eating animal products causes. Also, don’t tell me that you are an “animal lover” because you have a pet…. while you stuff your face at the burger joint.

    • Kayla

      Dear glorybug, If you’re going to make the claim that milk causes obesity then you should at least post a *clinical* study that shows the correlation otherwise it just sounds like a lot of rambling with not much substance.

    • Alyson Melody

      And even if glorybug could provide such a study, correlation does not equal causation.

    • metal vegan
    • wormywyrm

      Thinking its ok to eat meat is an ideology called carnism, and this ideology leads to suffering of animals everyday. Your taste palette is opinion, perhaps you like the taste of meat, that is an opinion.

    • Sam Inoue

      Pretty sure I said I was a vegetarian, I don’t eat meat. I am just saying that other people can chose to do so. No one should have to right to tell someone else how to eat.

    • wormywyrm

      If you think a humans ‘right to eat’ whatever they want trumps an animals right to avoid torture, confinement, and slaughter then you are a carnist. Your diet is not an idealogy

    • Sam Inoue

      You may believe whatever you want. Brutally throwing your opinion in other people’s faces is why vegans get a bad rap, I don’t agree with the way that we treat animals but I think its crazy to think that yelling at everyone is gonna change their minds because it won’t. All I can do is my own part by not supporting the meat industry.

  • Arash Arabasadi

    Lol, who copy edited this piece of crap? Author and editor should be both asking, “You want fries with that?”

    • Joanna Rafael

      Your “you want fries with that” joke is so old and stale, it reminded me of the loser-cough! Thank you.

    • Arash Arabasadi

      Too bad it didn’t remind you that writing is a skill, nor your editor, that he or she should exercise some oversight in vetting crappy writers.

    • Joanna Rafael

      Writing is a skill that I’m paid to have, baby!

    • Arash Arabasadi

      Me too. Your boss should demand a refund.

    • Joanna Rafael

      OMG link me to your work. We can talk shop. Judging by your comments, business must not be great :(

    • Arash Arabasadi

      One of us writes for some crap blog and gets paid $2 per article.
      I have a job.

    • Joanna Rafael

      I get paid way more than $2 per article. Thank you so much for the clicks and comments.

      Show me your writing! Maybe I can learn something about the craft from someone so seasoned and employed.

    • Arash Arabasadi

      I’m easy to find. Earn your education.

    • glorybug

      Seriously. Please share exactly how much you got paid to write this piece of garbage. I’ll take a guess — nothing.

      It is not believable that you are a paid author anywhere. And, last time I checked, being a narcissist didn’t pay anything, either.

    • Julia Sonenshein

      But being an avid internet commenter is pretty lucrative, right?

    • Travestine

      These morons are so not worth it. I’m sorry you have to deal with this crap.

    • glorybug

      Absolutely true. No content, no facts, no quotes, and poorly written. The writer and editor should be cringing.

  • Lily Flor

    Wow so you author and you commenters fell offended by what she said huh? It hurts to be point out the truth? Are you stupid? Is because vegans don’t feel superior to anyone, specifically innocent animals that we are vegan! The truth hurts! You go Adriana! You are awesome in my eyes! Keep up the good work! You meat eaters keep your heart attacks and your pus.

    • Joanna Rafael

      “Are you stupid?” is not something somebody who doesn’t feel superior to anyone says.

    • metal vegan

      No I think Lily just pity’s you. I don’t though. I think you are hilarious.

    • Julia Sonenshein

      Who is Adriana?

    • Kayla

      Your comment is so full of irony it hurts.

      Also do you tell any meat eating members of your family that they can keep their heart attacks? Or are they all vegan like you?

  • John Thomas

    I think the same things she does and I’m 31. You’re just being overly defensive because you’re an asshole.

    • Joanna Rafael

      All that animal pus in my system must be making me a jerk.

    • John Thomas

      it’s probably the arachidonic acid actually

    • metal vegan

      Or it could be that she’s just really unattractive and is jealous of someone that is 4 years younger that has talent, intelligence, a huge following, and has informed/intelligent opinions.

    • glorybug

      Bingo! We have a winner.

    • Jessica Parsons

      But she’s a Blogger. :-)

    • Travestine

      Attacking a woman based on her age and looks – the ‘go to’ of the typical no-argument-left misogynist/agist. Crawl back under your rock and eat some more roots and berries.

  • John

    We have our carnivore teeth for a reason… sorry.

    • Athonwy Doherty

      Gorillas have much larger canines, and are 100% plant-eaters. Horses have larger canines too. If you think you are designed for eating animals with your big canine teefs, try running down a deer with no shoes on, and no tools, and taking a big bite from it. Get back to me on how that works out for you.

    • metal vegan

      Did you seriously just say this? Go out into the woods somewhere (naked and unarmed of course) and run down a deer or elk and kill it… you know, like a REAL carnivore, then rip into it with those ferocious carnivorous teeth you have.

    • Kayla

      What you’re saying is pretty much a fallacy.

      *The typical claims made in comparative proofs of diet that humans are not adapted to meat because of lack of claws,fangs, etc., are fallacious and based on the assumption that only one adaptation is possible for the function. In reality, from earliest beginnings, humans have employed adaptive behavior and technology to overcome the limits of morphology.”

    • glorybug

      Get educated before you post. Humans do not have “carnivore” teeth. Perhaps you were intending to refer to our rather ineffectual incisors?

    • wormywyrm

      http://imgur.com/Qvt7qH5&AUpGYSH … and wait till he sees the teeth on a gorilla…

  • Burt

    I don’t think I’ve read a lamer article. Finally teens and youth has a vegan role model who isn’t as obscure as the day as long, but let’s make fun of her cause she passionately believes in not being a murderous douche!!!! Lame. Next.

  • Jessica Parsons

    If you hurry, she might accept a public apology from you, a MUCH more mature 24 year old who just happens to be 180 degrees wrong.

    As a 42 year old vegan, I am proud to hear a young star using her public voice to promote ideas other than herself – i.e., ideas about our food which are perfectly correct and could be easily referenced by the most modest research. She gives me hope for the future.

    What are you using your voice for?

    • Julia Sonenshein

      It looks like Joanna’s using her voice to do her job.

    • Jessica Parsons

      You mean to garner the most clicks for advertising revenue? Truly, a model for us all.

    • Julia Sonenshein

      Any blogger who isn’t concerned with clicks isn’t doing his or her job. So, well said.

    • Jessica Parsons

      Cool, so we’ll be seeing that apology soon? I expect that will get you more clicks.

    • Kayla

      Why would she apologise?

      I find it amusing that a group of people that spend a lot of their time making moral judgements over peoples food choices would have such hurt feelings over Ariana Grande.

  • metal vegan
  • glorybug

    I bothered to look at other tripe/blogs by this blogger, and I feel like slapping myself. From lack of substance, completely incorrect references to female anatomy, failing to even read the sources the story was supposed to be based on, to glaring composition, grammar and punctuation errors, she should be ashamed, and both she and the editor should be canned.

    It is obvious you are trying to get notoriety like an even more immature Perez Hilton, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. You don’t have the writing talent or snark to make people remember you 15 minutes later.

  • glorybug

    Also, pretty defensive, since you now feel the need to delete the comments that are calling you out on your ignorance and poor writing skills.

    I thought you were an adult? Can’t take a little criticism?

  • Amy

    I thought it was a lovely article, and I do think that it long overdue for people to start poking a stick at the ‘propaganda’ that many vegans regurgitate such as the ‘milk is pus’ example.

  • Kayla

    This is for some of the commenter’s here that have been saying nasty things about the article:

    “How do you know if you’re a religious vegan?
    A tell-tale indicator is whether or not you can engage in rational, dispassionate debate about your beliefs. Do you automatically feel threatened and angry when someone shares information that conflicts with what you’ve been told by vegan writers and thinkers whose teachings have been very influential in your life?”

    http://30bananasadaysucks.com/2012/03/is-veganism-the-trendy-new-religion/

  • Jacqueline Carmen

    Seems like the only problem here is that you are not loving the truth she just delivered straight to your face…..’comparing fat people or any people to animals is so cruel.” – no torturing and murdering animals so you eat their corpses is CRUEL.

  • Cappy

    Like most mindless “journalists, Joanna Rafael finds the truth distasteful and prefers the comfort of the brainwashed status quo.

    • Alyson Melody

      This isn’t journalism. May I suggest the New York Times?

  • jjjjj

    lol you’re talking about being compared to an animal is cruel? What about the industry you support every day by eating dairy and meat, you obese piece of shit.

  • dms61757

    The little F’tards can’t think of a defense to justify the murder and consumption of eating another being so they resort to calling out typos…LMAO OK that’s funny

    • Alyson Melody

      What’s there to justify? Factory farming is awful, but humans consuming animals isn’t. It’s important to respect and appreciate our food sources, and not to treat the environment carelessly. However, humans are omnivorous, and if someone wants to eat meat, then it’s not exactly a perverted concept.

  • Elle

    I’m vegan and I actually agree with Joanna. Ariana makes some good points if you know her reasoning behind the strong statements. But she won’t get anyone on board the vegan train by being judgemental and pretty damn extremist in an interview. I think people are far more likely to turn around and be defensive to her criticism because she isn’t educating anyone by insulting them, and that will actually veer people further away from veganism. People respond to positivity more often than negativity.

    She should have just shown the interviewer a photo of a cute piglet.

    And yeah, she wears leather… Brand new, not old items of clothing. So she’s not exactly a rep for PETA

    • FemelleChevalier

      Isn’t PETA the same organization who insists that euthanizing perfectly healthy animals are better than letting them be “enslaved” by humans? Isn’t PETA the same organization that has the most terrible, inhumane shelters because they don’t let people adopt and would rather the animal be dead than be re-adopted?

      Isn’t PETA the same organization that advocates animal and human segregation to the point that they don’t want to allow human help in case the animals get hurt?

      Isn’t PETA the same organization that is against animal-testing for the advancement of medicines, and yet the president continually uses insulin that is definitely tested on animals?

      No, I’m not being sarcastic/aggressive, these are all genuine inquiries from a non-vegan to a vegan. It’s just that, if these are all true, then they are smug psychopaths (in my opinion) and the association of vegans to this atrocious organization is definitely hurting the world’s views about the vegan lifestyle.

  • Alyson Melody

    ‘Latching’ onto the ‘inside’ of the blood stream? What?

    • FemelleChevalier

      I think Ariana Grande forgot to do her school homework and it’s catching up.

  • Sara

    Every single one of her statements that you referenced are correct. They are backed up by multiple intensive studies that have even been made public. Additionally, Vegans are compared to rabbits all the time, but if a meat eater is compared to a pig or cow, all hell breaks loose. People just need to get real about why they are fat and sick. Vegans aren’t showing any love by encouraging dangerously unhealthy diets for those around us while we eat for optimum health.

  • JDB

    I love how she is trying to lecture people about how she is a proud vegan and an animal lover, I’m a vegetarian and I find everything she just said wrong and very down right stupid! If she is such a proud vegan and animal lover than why does she own countless numbers of leather bags and fur? That’s pretty hypocritical if you ask me. I think she needs to get more educated before she tries to lecture anyone about veganism or animal rights.

  • Emily

    The person that wrote this article is close minded, idiot. I hope that you catch a form of E. coli that tears your inside apart.

  • Fawn

    I lost brain cells reading this. Ariana is spot on.

  • viking

    Survival of the fittest