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		<title>By: A Visit to an Old Friend; a New Study on Childcare</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/6200-less-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-560174</link>
		<dc:creator>A Visit to an Old Friend; a New Study on Childcare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a just-published study in Pediatrics by an economist, Guillermo Montes, who&#8217;s also studied the effects of having an autistic children on household income. The new study is Child Care Problems and Employment Among Families With Preschool-Aged Children [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a just-published study in Pediatrics by an economist, Guillermo Montes, who&#8217;s also studied the effects of having an autistic children on household income. The new study is Child Care Problems and Employment Among Families With Preschool-Aged Children [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Sayers</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/6200-less-a-year/comment-page-1/#comment-543285</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie Sayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post.  The same thing about my son Matthew.  He comes home from school and wants his gray adidas pants that are only worn at home.  I went online and got them in two other colors, but not the same.  He would rather play with the measuring tape and press buttons on his Go talk than other things.  With my HFA son who is 13 he was not interested in video games and I got them for him so he would be in the know with other kids.  He refers to people as humans and wants to work with animals.  He can play zoo tycoon for hours and is proud of his accomplishments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.  The same thing about my son Matthew.  He comes home from school and wants his gray adidas pants that are only worn at home.  I went online and got them in two other colors, but not the same.  He would rather play with the measuring tape and press buttons on his Go talk than other things.  With my HFA son who is 13 he was not interested in video games and I got them for him so he would be in the know with other kids.  He refers to people as humans and wants to work with animals.  He can play zoo tycoon for hours and is proud of his accomplishments.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristina,

I&#039;m loving your blog.  Wanted your readers to know about the petition they can sign to take some action toward a tax break for our families.  http://www.PetitionOnline.com/txbrk456/petition.html is the link or I just posted it on my blog.  I learned about it from John Michael Carley at GRASP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristina,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m loving your blog.  Wanted your readers to know about the petition they can sign to take some action toward a tax break for our families.  <a href="http://www.PetitionOnline.com/txbrk456/petition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.PetitionOnline.com/txbrk456/petition.html</a> is the link or I just posted it on my blog.  I learned about it from John Michael Carley at GRASP.</p>
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		<title>By: Paying the Bills: Seeking Insurance Coverage in Missouri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paying the Bills: Seeking Insurance Coverage in Missouri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I can&#8217;t of course speak for Meyer, but I kind of suspect that most parents of autistic children do feel they have to do everything they can to help their child do the best she or he can, whatever it costs and the general effect on one&#8217;s finances and income. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I can&#8217;t of course speak for Meyer, but I kind of suspect that most parents of autistic children do feel they have to do everything they can to help their child do the best she or he can, whatever it costs and the general effect on one&#8217;s finances and income. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When TH was first dx&#039;d, we spent 20,000+ a year for a couple of years on therapies. That has calmed down considerably now that he&#039;s in an excellent public school receiving services. But we also have the experience that Kristina does about clothes and other trendy items--except Pokemon cards. But TH couldn&#039;t care less what he&#039;s wearing...and could be less aware about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When TH was first dx&#8217;d, we spent 20,000+ a year for a couple of years on therapies. That has calmed down considerably now that he&#8217;s in an excellent public school receiving services. But we also have the experience that Kristina does about clothes and other trendy items&#8211;except Pokemon cards. But TH couldn&#8217;t care less what he&#8217;s wearing&#8230;and could be less aware about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 12:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It seems bigotted to me to make these sorts of estimates.&quot;

This type of study is done on every demographic imaginable- from single moms heading families, to welfare recipients, to &quot;yuppies&quot;, to other disability groups, to children living in upper-end neighbourhoods and families dealing with cancer. 

They are done for various reasons- by governments so that they can decide how to fund social programs and create a tax structure to best serve the needs of society (or not, depending on who your government might be).  By special interest groups so that they can prove that their members are being discriminated against or that they need more funding, or by researchers who may be studying the special needs of discrete populations, and maybe the stresses that help make things &quot;better&quot; or &quot;worse&quot; for that population, or by companies or marketing departments doing research to find out the needs and desires of their consumers.   I&#039;m sure that there are a lot more reasons for studies than I&#039;m quoting here, but just google &quot;financial demographic research&quot; and you&#039;ll realize how wide-spread this type of study is. 

If anything, it&#039;s more &quot;bigoted&quot; that they haven&#039;t done more research on the financial costs to special needs families before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems bigotted to me to make these sorts of estimates.&#8221;</p>
<p>This type of study is done on every demographic imaginable- from single moms heading families, to welfare recipients, to &#8220;yuppies&#8221;, to other disability groups, to children living in upper-end neighbourhoods and families dealing with cancer. </p>
<p>They are done for various reasons- by governments so that they can decide how to fund social programs and create a tax structure to best serve the needs of society (or not, depending on who your government might be).  By special interest groups so that they can prove that their members are being discriminated against or that they need more funding, or by researchers who may be studying the special needs of discrete populations, and maybe the stresses that help make things &#8220;better&#8221; or &#8220;worse&#8221; for that population, or by companies or marketing departments doing research to find out the needs and desires of their consumers.   I&#8217;m sure that there are a lot more reasons for studies than I&#8217;m quoting here, but just google &#8220;financial demographic research&#8221; and you&#8217;ll realize how wide-spread this type of study is. </p>
<p>If anything, it&#8217;s more &#8220;bigoted&#8221; that they haven&#8217;t done more research on the financial costs to special needs families before.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it make sense, for example, to publish an estimate of the extra expenses of families who decide to take care of elderly relatives at home?
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I suspect these are being done. There seems to be little that we don&#039;t study when $ is involved.
A couple out of quite a few analyses out there.

The Cost of Eldercare (unpublished)
http://www.elderweb.com/home/node/891

 Fast, J.E., Williamson, D.L., &amp; Keating, N.C. (1999). The Hidden Costs of Informal Elder Care. Journal of Family and Economic Issues, 20, 301-326.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/h3824833t6175h43/
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Adding the 5-11K to the 12-13K for children with autism seems to be a parsimonious figure as a total. There probably is waste, but I would be willing to bet that it is more in the nature of partial implementation or faulty implementation (which costs the same or more as competent service) or the typical waste that happens in anything rather than assuming that it is primarily due to quack treatments. Professional 1:1 of any kind is expensive and as Niksmom pointed out, so are standard prescription medicines, which may not always be fully covered under insurance or HMO.

I&#039;m talking a little out of my hat until I fully read the report to see what and how they surveyed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it make sense, for example, to publish an estimate of the extra expenses of families who decide to take care of elderly relatives at home?<br />
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I suspect these are being done. There seems to be little that we don&#8217;t study when $ is involved.<br />
A couple out of quite a few analyses out there.</p>
<p>The Cost of Eldercare (unpublished)<br />
<a href="http://www.elderweb.com/home/node/891" rel="nofollow">http://www.elderweb.com/home/node/891</a></p>
<p> Fast, J.E., Williamson, D.L., &amp; Keating, N.C. (1999). The Hidden Costs of Informal Elder Care. Journal of Family and Economic Issues, 20, 301-326.<br />
<a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/h3824833t6175h43/" rel="nofollow">http://www.springerlink.com/content/h3824833t6175h43/</a><br />
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Adding the 5-11K to the 12-13K for children with autism seems to be a parsimonious figure as a total. There probably is waste, but I would be willing to bet that it is more in the nature of partial implementation or faulty implementation (which costs the same or more as competent service) or the typical waste that happens in anything rather than assuming that it is primarily due to quack treatments. Professional 1:1 of any kind is expensive and as Niksmom pointed out, so are standard prescription medicines, which may not always be fully covered under insurance or HMO.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m talking a little out of my hat until I fully read the report to see what and how they surveyed.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have 2 problems with these sorts of cost estimate studies:

(1) They don&#039;t indicate to what extent the expenses are wasteful, like expenses on &quot;just in case&quot; quack treatments. I&#039;d venture a guess a large portion is.

(2) It seems bigotted to me to make these sorts of estimates. Would it make sense, for example, to publish an estimate of the extra expenses of families who decide to take care of elderly relatives at home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 2 problems with these sorts of cost estimate studies:</p>
<p>(1) They don&#8217;t indicate to what extent the expenses are wasteful, like expenses on &#8220;just in case&#8221; quack treatments. I&#8217;d venture a guess a large portion is.</p>
<p>(2) It seems bigotted to me to make these sorts of estimates. Would it make sense, for example, to publish an estimate of the extra expenses of families who decide to take care of elderly relatives at home?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  I think I have been really lucky here.  I did decline OT at one point because I couldn&#039;t afford it -- at the time it was taking the county eons to do their eval and get it started in Pete&#039;s preschool.  Where we live now, getting services Pete needs has not been a problem through the district.

When I had to go back to work 2 years ago due to my divorce, I was lucky to find a local teaching job.  It seems like the best option schedule-wise for both of my kids.  I know the earning potential is rather low compared to some other careers, but I feel the time it will afford me with my kids (not to mention daycare costs which I can minimize because of my teaching schedule) make it more than worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  I think I have been really lucky here.  I did decline OT at one point because I couldn&#8217;t afford it &#8212; at the time it was taking the county eons to do their eval and get it started in Pete&#8217;s preschool.  Where we live now, getting services Pete needs has not been a problem through the district.</p>
<p>When I had to go back to work 2 years ago due to my divorce, I was lucky to find a local teaching job.  It seems like the best option schedule-wise for both of my kids.  I know the earning potential is rather low compared to some other careers, but I feel the time it will afford me with my kids (not to mention daycare costs which I can minimize because of my teaching schedule) make it more than worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shari, 

I know what you mean about those conference registration fees----and the costs are always more due to the efforts that one has to make to keep everyone on the home front happy! Thanks so much.

@Niksmom,

I&#039;ve never felt there was a choice---we always choose what our children need, yes? And honestly the payback is so great (I know that&#039;s a cliché but it _is_ the truth).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shari, </p>
<p>I know what you mean about those conference registration fees&#8212;-and the costs are always more due to the efforts that one has to make to keep everyone on the home front happy! Thanks so much.</p>
<p>@Niksmom,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never felt there was a choice&#8212;we always choose what our children need, yes? And honestly the payback is so great (I know that&#8217;s a cliché but it _is_ the truth).</p>
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