Comments on: Adoption; Infertility, Baby Stealing, and the need for Reform http://www.blisstree.com/articles/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform-360/ Family, Health, Home and Lifestyles Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:57:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: pickel http://www.blisstree.com/articles/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform-360/comment-page-1/#comment-115513 pickel Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:40:35 +0000 http://www.achildchosen.com/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform/#comment-115513 That posting issue was my fault, as I had not moderated his post in a timely manner. Sorry. It came across to me late. That posting issue was my fault, as I had not moderated his post in a timely manner. Sorry. It came across to me late.

]]> By: David Archuletta http://www.blisstree.com/articles/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform-360/comment-page-1/#comment-115512 David Archuletta Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:26:37 +0000 http://www.achildchosen.com/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform/#comment-115512 To BMS: Your metaphor as to to being tarred by unworthty adoption facilitators hits one aspect of newborn adoption right on the nail's head. As for perspective couples wanting a child, some of them must get their hands dirty. It is a well known fact that front money is paid in cash to some of these birthmothers. This money comes straight from the pockets of the adoptive parents. Do I have a problem with this? No, simply for the fact that I know the adoptive parents must play by the rules allowed and made up by adoption agencies and adoption attorneys. [A very small percentage, but when it comes to human lives one is too many] In order for an adoptive couple to complete this great humanitarian act they must jump into the mire and hope to come up out of it with child in arms. It is a sad fact that this is the way newborn adoption has evolved. As for the adoptive parents that have been swiped by this "brush", the tar is removed easily and none of it will ever show up in your child's life, God bless. To BMS:
Your metaphor as to to being tarred by unworthty adoption facilitators hits one aspect of newborn adoption right on the nail’s head. As for perspective couples wanting a child, some of them must get their hands dirty.
It is a well known fact that front money is paid in cash to some of these birthmothers. This money comes straight from the pockets of the adoptive parents. Do I have a problem with this? No, simply for the fact that I know the adoptive parents must play by the rules allowed and made up by adoption agencies and adoption attorneys. [A very small percentage, but when it comes to human lives one is too many] In order for an adoptive couple to complete this great humanitarian act they must jump into the mire and hope to come up out of it with child in arms. It is a sad fact that this is the way newborn adoption has evolved. As for the adoptive parents that have been swiped by this “brush”, the tar is removed easily and none of it will ever show up in your child’s life, God bless.

]]> By: BMS http://www.blisstree.com/articles/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform-360/comment-page-1/#comment-115511 BMS Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:49:12 +0000 http://www.achildchosen.com/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform/#comment-115511 Mr. Archuletta, I think we posted at the same time, because I was not responding to your post. I fully agree - unscrupulous adoption agencies must be put out of business, so that the rest of us are not tarred with their brush. Mr. Archuletta, I think we posted at the same time, because I was not responding to your post. I fully agree – unscrupulous adoption agencies must be put out of business, so that the rest of us are not tarred with their brush.

]]> By: David Archuletta http://www.blisstree.com/articles/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform-360/comment-page-1/#comment-115510 David Archuletta Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:27:40 +0000 http://www.achildchosen.com/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform/#comment-115510 To BMS: My comments were not directed at adoptive parents. What you do is a wonderful thing. My point was not think a ll facilitatators are as atruistic as other people.... Think about it, your providing a home for a child that might not have one otherwise. The people I mentioned get paid to do what they do. Who watches them? To BMS:
My comments were not directed at adoptive parents. What you do is a wonderful thing. My point was not think a ll facilitatators are as atruistic as other people…. Think about it, your providing a home for a child that might not have one otherwise. The people I mentioned get paid to do what they do. Who watches them?

]]> By: BMS http://www.blisstree.com/articles/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform-360/comment-page-1/#comment-115509 BMS Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:13:04 +0000 http://www.achildchosen.com/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform/#comment-115509 I'm getting really sick of adoptive parents being required to feel guilty for the rest of our lives because we adopted. Our first son's birthmother CONTACTED US via the adoption agency when she was expecting our second son, because she wanted the kids to be raised together if possible. I know her heart bled at the thought of having to place another child for adoption. At the same time, she was being a responsible parent - doing whatever it took to make sure her kids survived and thrived. So why do I have to feel second rate because I 'took' her kids? Why would my loss if she changed her mine be less? I am the only mom these two have ever known, and I will not apologize for it. I know there are shady adoption dealers out there. But to declare (as some seem to) that every adoption is some horrible selfish act just pisses me off. We were brought together, and we are a family. I’m getting really sick of adoptive parents being required to feel guilty for the rest of our lives because we adopted. Our first son’s birthmother CONTACTED US via the adoption agency when she was expecting our second son, because she wanted the kids to be raised together if possible. I know her heart bled at the thought of having to place another child for adoption. At the same time, she was being a responsible parent – doing whatever it took to make sure her kids survived and thrived. So why do I have to feel second rate because I ‘took’ her kids? Why would my loss if she changed her mine be less? I am the only mom these two have ever known, and I will not apologize for it. I know there are shady adoption dealers out there. But to declare (as some seem to) that every adoption is some horrible selfish act just pisses me off. We were brought together, and we are a family.

]]> By: David Archuletta http://www.blisstree.com/articles/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform-360/comment-page-1/#comment-115488 David Archuletta Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:42:04 +0000 http://www.achildchosen.com/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform/#comment-115488 Adoption 1920's style, this is how a Rosie O'Donnell funded adoption agency facilitates an adoption. Children of the World, Inc. out of Verona, New Jersey is now out of business because I put them out of commission. It's executive director Veronica Serio corrupt ways I finally exposed. Can you beleive this woman has been in the adoption field 35 years? I came to find out she actually helped write N.J. state adoption law. Write your own law, while you steal your babies to adopt out, how clever is that? By the way, an adoptrion attorney she works with, Steven I. Sklar whom I proved lied to the State Supreme Courts Office of Attorney Ethics, actually knew of a frantic Birth father in desperate search for his pregnant girlfriend two days after the birth of his child. He did absolutely nothing despite being given this information by the birth mothers hometown OB. This OB knew an adoption fraud was taking place, thats why the OB relayed this crucial info to Mr. Sklar. Whatever you do, do not adopt in jersey if you want a clear concious, because the child you adopt may be stolen. ALL THAT I SAY CAN BE PROVEN BY THE NEW JERSEY OPEN PUBLIC RECORDS ACT, ELENA FLYNN IS THE RECORDS KEEPER. The N.J. DHS is the most inept organization on the planet. These people took Veronica Serio's LIES as the gospel truth. THEY VERIFIED NOTHING! Maybe the fact that they affectionately know Veronica as "Ronny" has something to do with it. Either that or DHS enforcement agents Karen Moyer and Anna Montes graduated at the Barney Fife School of Investigative Procedure. If you would like to know more, you are welcome to visit the web site __ pickettsghostdivisionsuicidebomberrepublicans.com or go to Lulu Books.com under author David Archuletta, thank you Adoption 1920’s style, this is how a Rosie O’Donnell funded adoption agency facilitates an adoption. Children of the World, Inc. out of Verona, New Jersey is now out of business because I put them out of commission. It’s executive director Veronica Serio corrupt ways I finally exposed. Can you beleive this woman has been in the adoption field 35 years? I came to find out she actually helped write N.J. state adoption law. Write your own law, while you steal your babies to adopt out, how clever is that? By the way, an adoptrion attorney she works with, Steven I. Sklar whom I proved lied to the State Supreme Courts Office of Attorney Ethics, actually knew of a frantic Birth father in desperate search for his pregnant girlfriend two days after the birth of his child. He did absolutely nothing despite being given this information by the birth mothers hometown OB. This OB knew an adoption fraud was taking place, thats why the OB relayed this crucial info to Mr. Sklar. Whatever you do, do not adopt in jersey if you want a clear concious, because the child you adopt may be stolen. ALL THAT I SAY CAN BE PROVEN BY THE NEW JERSEY OPEN PUBLIC RECORDS ACT, ELENA FLYNN IS THE RECORDS KEEPER. The N.J. DHS is the most inept organization on the planet. These people took Veronica Serio’s LIES as the gospel truth. THEY VERIFIED NOTHING! Maybe the fact that they affectionately know Veronica as “Ronny” has something to do with it. Either that or DHS enforcement agents Karen Moyer and Anna Montes graduated at the Barney Fife School of Investigative Procedure. If you would like to know more, you are welcome to visit the web site __ pickettsghostdivisionsuicidebomberrepublicans.com or go to Lulu Books.com under author David Archuletta, thank you

]]> By: Krissi http://www.blisstree.com/articles/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform-360/comment-page-1/#comment-115099 Krissi Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:26:47 +0000 http://www.achildchosen.com/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform/#comment-115099 Marcie - Thank you for changing the link. I appreciate it. Marcie -

Thank you for changing the link. I appreciate it.

]]> By: Marcie http://www.blisstree.com/articles/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform-360/comment-page-1/#comment-115100 Marcie Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:57:35 +0000 http://www.achildchosen.com/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform/#comment-115100 To be fair I changed the link. My original intent was to show that posts on adoption can end up being controversial. It was not my intent to post to that one. I have you on my google reader so I must have just clicked on that and linked. Apologies. To be fair I changed the link. My original intent was to show that posts on adoption can end up being controversial. It was not my intent to post to that one. I have you on my google reader so I must have just clicked on that and linked. Apologies.

]]> By: Krissi http://www.blisstree.com/articles/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform-360/comment-page-1/#comment-115098 Krissi Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:51:14 +0000 http://www.achildchosen.com/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform/#comment-115098 Marcie - Right, ok. But that was only a commented reply to someone who wasn't able to reply to the original post. These kinds of things are exactly why I made my original post in the first place - lets all judge based on only one part of a story. How fair! Marcie -

Right, ok. But that was only a commented reply to someone who wasn’t able to reply to the original post.

These kinds of things are exactly why I made my original post in the first place – lets all judge based on only one part of a story. How fair!

]]> By: Marcie http://www.blisstree.com/articles/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform-360/comment-page-1/#comment-115131 Marcie Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:48:45 +0000 http://www.achildchosen.com/adoption-infertility-baby-stealing-and-the-need-for-reform/#comment-115131 Yeah, I linked to 428. Yeah, I linked to 428.

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