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		<title>By: Kassiane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kassiane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kristina:

IP logs. CPS. Call them. Seriously. Either you&#039;ve got a troll, or someone who had no business reproducing in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kristina:</p>
<p>IP logs. CPS. Call them. Seriously. Either you&#8217;ve got a troll, or someone who had no business reproducing in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John McMullen,

Thank you for writing here----I don&#039;t mean to intrude, has it not been possible work on things like eating habits and self-care and hygiene? I don&#039;t mean to make light at all of what sounds like a really really difficult situation.  I would be doubtful about a demon and possession---I hope there might be some way to help him in these matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John McMullen,</p>
<p>Thank you for writing here&#8212;-I don&#8217;t mean to intrude, has it not been possible work on things like eating habits and self-care and hygiene? I don&#8217;t mean to make light at all of what sounds like a really really difficult situation.  I would be doubtful about a demon and possession&#8212;I hope there might be some way to help him in these matters.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mc Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Mc Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe he is possessed by a demon. it would explain the tendencies to gravitate towars filth and gluttony. maybe a mute demon got hold of him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe he is possessed by a demon. it would explain the tendencies to gravitate towars filth and gluttony. maybe a mute demon got hold of him.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mc Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Mc Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont know but my son is 23 and autisitic, doesnt talk and is highly goddamned annoying.
i never have been so annoyed in all my life as i am just to sit at the dinner table with him. and THEE most disgusting creature. very disgusting. thinks nothing to digg in his ass one minute just to chew on the very same nails the next. makes those constant noises. i tell you, i cant stand him. i mean i love because he is my son. i wish him no ill, i hope that there will be a magic cure all pill to make him normal someday...so i can tell him what an annoying individual he has been. i cant stand him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont know but my son is 23 and autisitic, doesnt talk and is highly goddamned annoying.<br />
i never have been so annoyed in all my life as i am just to sit at the dinner table with him. and THEE most disgusting creature. very disgusting. thinks nothing to digg in his ass one minute just to chew on the very same nails the next. makes those constant noises. i tell you, i cant stand him. i mean i love because he is my son. i wish him no ill, i hope that there will be a magic cure all pill to make him normal someday&#8230;so i can tell him what an annoying individual he has been. i cant stand him.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogrolls &#171; Creativityandsocialchange&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogrolls &#171; Creativityandsocialchange&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but still I thought it was important to point that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but still I thought it was important to point that out.</p>
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		<title>By: Norah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So you know, a lot of autistic adults read this weblog and I don’t speak for them, but I suspect the mention of possession by Satan might not be well received.&quot;

Actually, reading his first comment, I don&#039;t think he actually holds that opinion himself, he was stating what it would be like if people like Fish were right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So you know, a lot of autistic adults read this weblog and I don’t speak for them, but I suspect the mention of possession by Satan might not be well received.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, reading his first comment, I don&#8217;t think he actually holds that opinion himself, he was stating what it would be like if people like Fish were right.</p>
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		<title>By: C. S. Wyatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. S. Wyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real challenge is deciding what is pragmatic and ethical based on current knowledge. We might have to decide one autistic person is more of a risk than another. We might also have to decide some are more at risk of being harmed. There is no &quot;one right answer&quot; for autism. 

What I do realize is that unlike many diagnosed with autism, I wouldn&#039;t mind a &quot;cure&quot; for some aspects of my mind and body. Taking medications is changing yourself -- &quot;curing&quot; some aspect of your mind or body. I don&#039;t like seizures, don&#039;t like migraines, etc. So, I have taken medications. Those change my body, and hence my mind. They &quot;cure&quot; aspects of my autistic traits, too. 

The issue began with a challenge to DAN! people being considered influential. Is autism a difference? A disability? A gift? 

Sorry, but while I consider my computer skills and pattern recognition great things, I also admit that I have a disability that severely limits aspects of my life. I&#039;m not &quot;deviant&quot; but I&#039;m also not normal. 

I would like to be able to use mass transit. I would like to be able to go to the movies. I would like to be able to do a great many things I cannot do...

Normal? Don&#039;t know what it is, but it sounds nice, sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real challenge is deciding what is pragmatic and ethical based on current knowledge. We might have to decide one autistic person is more of a risk than another. We might also have to decide some are more at risk of being harmed. There is no &#8220;one right answer&#8221; for autism. </p>
<p>What I do realize is that unlike many diagnosed with autism, I wouldn&#8217;t mind a &#8220;cure&#8221; for some aspects of my mind and body. Taking medications is changing yourself &#8212; &#8220;curing&#8221; some aspect of your mind or body. I don&#8217;t like seizures, don&#8217;t like migraines, etc. So, I have taken medications. Those change my body, and hence my mind. They &#8220;cure&#8221; aspects of my autistic traits, too. </p>
<p>The issue began with a challenge to DAN! people being considered influential. Is autism a difference? A disability? A gift? </p>
<p>Sorry, but while I consider my computer skills and pattern recognition great things, I also admit that I have a disability that severely limits aspects of my life. I&#8217;m not &#8220;deviant&#8221; but I&#8217;m also not normal. </p>
<p>I would like to be able to use mass transit. I would like to be able to go to the movies. I would like to be able to do a great many things I cannot do&#8230;</p>
<p>Normal? Don&#8217;t know what it is, but it sounds nice, sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: mayfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>mayfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her running may indeed be an attention getting behavior. 

My daughter has had teacher&#039;s who didn&#039;t want her in the classroom.  Those teachers do not talk about the great strides your child has made nor how much the aides enjoy working with her.  They tell you flat out that your child doesn&#039;t belong in the class, and that no aide wants to work with her.  I&#039;ve seen the ugly side.

I&#039;m not sure what is meant by adjusting to the behavior.  The school is on a quiet street in the rather sleepy town Danville and there  is quite a bit of ground she would need to cover before she could reach the street.  Her behavior is not immediately dangerous to her.   

But that doesn&#039;t mean it doesn&#039;t need to be changed.  It takes a few seconds  for her to make her move.
The last time she ran, she went into another classroom and was attracted by that teacher&#039;s long, curly hair, interrupting the lesson to stroke the teacher&#039;s hair over and over again.

They are indeed looking for ways to  prevent the behavior which doesn&#039;t violate the  fire code and more preferably to understand the behavior and find a way to change it.  

The teacher was looking for anything we could tell her that might help in the quest while impressing on us how important it is to find an answer.

The school year ends  a week from Friday and perhaps by next August her  wanting to run will  have run its course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her running may indeed be an attention getting behavior. </p>
<p>My daughter has had teacher&#8217;s who didn&#8217;t want her in the classroom.  Those teachers do not talk about the great strides your child has made nor how much the aides enjoy working with her.  They tell you flat out that your child doesn&#8217;t belong in the class, and that no aide wants to work with her.  I&#8217;ve seen the ugly side.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what is meant by adjusting to the behavior.  The school is on a quiet street in the rather sleepy town Danville and there  is quite a bit of ground she would need to cover before she could reach the street.  Her behavior is not immediately dangerous to her.   </p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t mean it doesn&#8217;t need to be changed.  It takes a few seconds  for her to make her move.<br />
The last time she ran, she went into another classroom and was attracted by that teacher&#8217;s long, curly hair, interrupting the lesson to stroke the teacher&#8217;s hair over and over again.</p>
<p>They are indeed looking for ways to  prevent the behavior which doesn&#8217;t violate the  fire code and more preferably to understand the behavior and find a way to change it.  </p>
<p>The teacher was looking for anything we could tell her that might help in the quest while impressing on us how important it is to find an answer.</p>
<p>The school year ends  a week from Friday and perhaps by next August her  wanting to run will  have run its course.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeremy Pierce,

So you know, a lot of autistic adults read this weblog and I don&#039;t speak for them, but I suspect the mention of possession by Satan might not be well received. 

I am not in agreement with you about whether or not it is wrong to mention the sorts of statements you&#039;ve noted about intellectual ability etc.. Certainly they can be made---certainly they have been made----they need some deconstruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeremy Pierce,</p>
<p>So you know, a lot of autistic adults read this weblog and I don&#8217;t speak for them, but I suspect the mention of possession by Satan might not be well received. </p>
<p>I am not in agreement with you about whether or not it is wrong to mention the sorts of statements you&#8217;ve noted about intellectual ability etc.. Certainly they can be made&#8212;certainly they have been made&#8212;-they need some deconstruction.</p>
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