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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/autism-genes-approaching-a-new-neurobiology/comment-page-1/#comment-559706</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extremely cool (imho)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extremely cool (imho)!</p>
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		<title>By: Regan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>darn it. Sorry.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/genes/mice-flash.html&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;A Tale of Two Mice&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>darn it. Sorry.<br />
<a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/genes/mice-flash.html"><b>A Tale of Two Mice</b></a></p>
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		<title>By: Regan</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/autism-genes-approaching-a-new-neurobiology/comment-page-1/#comment-558462</link>
		<dc:creator>Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really cool (IMO) and lay-friendly slideshow on the epigenome
&lt;a&gt;&lt;b&gt;A Tale of Two Mice&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Also links to the &quot;Ghost In Your Genes&quot; homepage--NOVA, which further discusses epigenetics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really cool (IMO) and lay-friendly slideshow on the epigenome<br />
<a><b>A Tale of Two Mice</b></a></p>
<p>Also links to the &#8220;Ghost In Your Genes&#8221; homepage&#8211;NOVA, which further discusses epigenetics.</p>
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		<title>By: More on Genetics and Autism</title>
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		<dc:creator>More on Genetics and Autism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we&#8217;re stumbling through a wilderness of possible causes; am glad to have some guides along the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Children of the Stars: Autism in China</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/autism-genes-approaching-a-new-neurobiology/comment-page-1/#comment-548459</link>
		<dc:creator>Children of the Stars: Autism in China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been learning a lot from a recent discussion here about autism genetics. My own interest in the topic arises from what it reveals about how Charlie is linked to us, to our [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been learning a lot from a recent discussion here about autism genetics. My own interest in the topic arises from what it reveals about how Charlie is linked to us, to our [...]</p>
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		<title>By: daedalus2u</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/autism-genes-approaching-a-new-neurobiology/comment-page-1/#comment-557143</link>
		<dc:creator>daedalus2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

Genetics is so complicated and so new, that if you look hard enough, you can find genetic differences between any two individuals, even identical twins.  

It is not possible to tell if the differences you observe are cause, effect or unrelated to any phenotype differences between those identical twins.  

It isn&#039;t just autism that has complicated genetics.  Diabetes, obesity, heart disease, hypertension, etc.  all have &quot;complex&quot; genetics.  

To me, traits resulting from &quot;complex&quot; genetics have to be &quot;complex&quot; and under &quot;complex&quot; control to do &quot;complex&quot; things.  I think it is likely that some of those &quot;complex&quot; things might be good and some might be bad depending on the &quot;complex&quot; environment the &quot;complex&quot; organism develops in.  Because physiology is inherently non-linear and coupled, it is inherently chaotic and very complex results can occur due to very simple and modest changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.</p>
<p>Genetics is so complicated and so new, that if you look hard enough, you can find genetic differences between any two individuals, even identical twins.  </p>
<p>It is not possible to tell if the differences you observe are cause, effect or unrelated to any phenotype differences between those identical twins.  </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t just autism that has complicated genetics.  Diabetes, obesity, heart disease, hypertension, etc.  all have &#8220;complex&#8221; genetics.  </p>
<p>To me, traits resulting from &#8220;complex&#8221; genetics have to be &#8220;complex&#8221; and under &#8220;complex&#8221; control to do &#8220;complex&#8221; things.  I think it is likely that some of those &#8220;complex&#8221; things might be good and some might be bad depending on the &#8220;complex&#8221; environment the &#8220;complex&#8221; organism develops in.  Because physiology is inherently non-linear and coupled, it is inherently chaotic and very complex results can occur due to very simple and modest changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dysregulation of MicroRNAs and Autism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dysregulation of MicroRNAs and Autism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] complex disease,&#8221; researchers considered whether dysregulation of miRNA expression might play a role in autism. Specifically, the new study found that miRNAs can bind to longer RNA sequences and prevent them [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] complex disease,&#8221; researchers considered whether dysregulation of miRNA expression might play a role in autism. Specifically, the new study found that miRNAs can bind to longer RNA sequences and prevent them [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RAJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Daedalus, I’ve ALWAYS wondered why it is that geneticists become so fixated on the gene alone&quot;

&#039;Autism&#039; has always come under the domain of child psychiatry. Kanner was heavily influenced by the psychiatric opinion of his day which embraced Feudian theory and psychodynamics leading to the concept of the refrigerator mother.

Psychiatry has abandoned this belief at least with respect to the study of &#039;autism&#039;. The discovery of DNA and the human genome brought about  a change in current thinking in psychiatry and the new opinion has embraced behavioral genetics as the Rosetta Stone that once it is decoded will lead to the understanding of all human behaviors. The leading proponents of the polygenic model are all on record as stating they just don&#039;t see an environmental component.

Autism is no more complicated under current beliefs in behavioral genetics than it was under the psychodynamic beliefs of 40 years ago</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Daedalus, I’ve ALWAYS wondered why it is that geneticists become so fixated on the gene alone&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8216;Autism&#8217; has always come under the domain of child psychiatry. Kanner was heavily influenced by the psychiatric opinion of his day which embraced Feudian theory and psychodynamics leading to the concept of the refrigerator mother.</p>
<p>Psychiatry has abandoned this belief at least with respect to the study of &#8216;autism&#8217;. The discovery of DNA and the human genome brought about  a change in current thinking in psychiatry and the new opinion has embraced behavioral genetics as the Rosetta Stone that once it is decoded will lead to the understanding of all human behaviors. The leading proponents of the polygenic model are all on record as stating they just don&#8217;t see an environmental component.</p>
<p>Autism is no more complicated under current beliefs in behavioral genetics than it was under the psychodynamic beliefs of 40 years ago</p>
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		<title>By: passionlessDrone</title>
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		<dc:creator>passionlessDrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi LR - 

&lt;i&gt;That is why the genetics of autism is no less complex than the genetics that insures that no too people are ever entirely alike. There are genes no doubt that predispose to a good banjo player, but without a banjo who would ever know?&lt;/i&gt;

Hehe

- pD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi LR &#8211; </p>
<p><i>That is why the genetics of autism is no less complex than the genetics that insures that no too people are ever entirely alike. There are genes no doubt that predispose to a good banjo player, but without a banjo who would ever know?</i></p>
<p>Hehe</p>
<p>- pD</p>
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		<title>By: laurentius-rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurentius-rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you might say that genes &quot;probably&quot; determine the very basic hardwear of the brain, what you start out with, rather like the components on the motherboard of a computer before an engineer starts connecting them to each other.

The way things connect is like the way an artist paints from a particular pallete, essentially the artist can&#039;t use any more materials than are there, but there is going to be a strict mathematical formula of immense complexity that will determine the probabilities of each paint stroke and colour mix.

The properties of those colours, or components or whatever other analogy are going to be governed by physical properties inherent to there atomic structure at a pre molecular level.

That is what I mean by complexity. Silicon acts the way it does not because it is chosen to make computer chips from, but because of the properties inherent to silicon. Copper shows a green spectrum not because it is used in the paint box to signify green, but because that is what copper does.

Genes can&#039;t determine ultimately what happens, they can only set a few switches, and the rest procedes because of the physical properties of the outcome of that, and the complexity of the interaction of everything else.

That is why the genetics of autism is no less complex than the genetics that insures that no too people are ever entirely alike. There are genes no doubt that predispose to a good banjo player, but without a banjo who would ever know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you might say that genes &#8220;probably&#8221; determine the very basic hardwear of the brain, what you start out with, rather like the components on the motherboard of a computer before an engineer starts connecting them to each other.</p>
<p>The way things connect is like the way an artist paints from a particular pallete, essentially the artist can&#8217;t use any more materials than are there, but there is going to be a strict mathematical formula of immense complexity that will determine the probabilities of each paint stroke and colour mix.</p>
<p>The properties of those colours, or components or whatever other analogy are going to be governed by physical properties inherent to there atomic structure at a pre molecular level.</p>
<p>That is what I mean by complexity. Silicon acts the way it does not because it is chosen to make computer chips from, but because of the properties inherent to silicon. Copper shows a green spectrum not because it is used in the paint box to signify green, but because that is what copper does.</p>
<p>Genes can&#8217;t determine ultimately what happens, they can only set a few switches, and the rest procedes because of the physical properties of the outcome of that, and the complexity of the interaction of everything else.</p>
<p>That is why the genetics of autism is no less complex than the genetics that insures that no too people are ever entirely alike. There are genes no doubt that predispose to a good banjo player, but without a banjo who would ever know?</p>
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