Comments on: Bad Publicity Is Still Publicity: The AAP and ABC’s Eli Stone http://www.blisstree.com/articles/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/ Family, Health, Home and Lifestyles Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:31:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Physicians, Vaccines, and Autism http://www.blisstree.com/articles/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-550050 Physicians, Vaccines, and Autism Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:21:21 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/#comment-550050 [...] in discussions about autism, and about the hypothetical vaccine-autism link in particular. Back in January, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) sent a letter to the producers of the ABC legal drama, [...] [...] in discussions about autism, and about the hypothetical vaccine-autism link in particular. Back in January, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) sent a letter to the producers of the ABC legal drama, [...]

]]> By: Physicians, Vaccines, and Autism http://www.blisstree.com/articles/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-547446 Physicians, Vaccines, and Autism Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:21:20 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/#comment-547446 [...] in discussions about autism, and about the hypothetical vaccine-autism link in particular. Back in January, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) sent a letter to the producers of the ABC legal drama, [...] [...] in discussions about autism, and about the hypothetical vaccine-autism link in particular. Back in January, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) sent a letter to the producers of the ABC legal drama, [...]

]]> By: Myth, Science, and Autism: A Message from the AAP http://www.blisstree.com/articles/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-549034 Myth, Science, and Autism: A Message from the AAP Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:22:28 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/#comment-549034 [...] about vaccines and autism that might be spread by the Eli Stone TV show, the AAP sent a letter to ABC asking for the show to be cancelled, and lifted the embargo early on a new study in Pediatrics [...] [...] about vaccines and autism that might be spread by the Eli Stone TV show, the AAP sent a letter to ABC asking for the show to be cancelled, and lifted the embargo early on a new study in Pediatrics [...]

]]> By: This Week’s Top Posts http://www.blisstree.com/articles/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-546833 This Week’s Top Posts Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:37:36 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/#comment-546833 [...] Bad Publicity Is Still Publicity: The AAP and ABC’s Eli StoneThe American Academy of Pediatrics, in understandable concern about the misinformation that Eli Stone show might spread about a link between autism and vaccines, sends a letter to ABC executives and requests that the show be cancelled. [...] [...] Bad Publicity Is Still Publicity: The AAP and ABC’s Eli StoneThe American Academy of Pediatrics, in understandable concern about the misinformation that Eli Stone show might spread about a link between autism and vaccines, sends a letter to ABC executives and requests that the show be cancelled. [...]

]]> By: Vaccines in the Media: Emotion Trumping Reason? http://www.blisstree.com/articles/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-548887 Vaccines in the Media: Emotion Trumping Reason? Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:57:40 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/#comment-548887 [...] establishment, the American Pediatric Association (AAP) has been on the defensive, sending a letter to ABC asking for the show to be cancelled, and lifting the embargo early on a new study in Pediatrics [...] [...] establishment, the American Pediatric Association (AAP) has been on the defensive, sending a letter to ABC asking for the show to be cancelled, and lifting the embargo early on a new study in Pediatrics [...]

]]> By: Cliff http://www.blisstree.com/articles/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-546683 Cliff Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:03:49 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/#comment-546683 Of course the most controversial angle was chosen, that's what sells. But the thing that makes me not worried is that, framed as "Substance X that is being openly plied by the government causes disease Y (with the potential modifier of "to get money")" is going to be reacted to with a "yeah, right", in the same respect that "Judges from place X all conspire to lock up Y population". If you didn't hear that some people were otherwise out in the media speaking of this fact, it comes off as blunt conspiracy for fun, not a seed of anything. Now, there is a limited population that would believe both things if presented as such on TV, but they're not half the population of others. Cliff Of course the most controversial angle was chosen, that’s what sells.

But the thing that makes me not worried is that, framed as “Substance X that is being openly plied by the government causes disease Y (with the potential modifier of “to get money”)” is going to be reacted to with a “yeah, right”, in the same respect that “Judges from place X all conspire to lock up Y population”. If you didn’t hear that some people were otherwise out in the media speaking of this fact, it comes off as blunt conspiracy for fun, not a seed of anything. Now, there is a limited population that would believe both things if presented as such on TV, but they’re not half the population of others.

Cliff

]]> By: Kristina Chew, PhD http://www.blisstree.com/articles/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-546635 Kristina Chew, PhD Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:09:46 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/#comment-546635 Just planting any seed of a vaccine-autism connection seems to go a long way towards people <i>believing</i> in such a connection. I feel extremely cynical, but why this plotline (a vaccine-autism link) out of other possible plotlines about autism? Cynical me thinks that the network wanted for the most controversial angle. Just planting any seed of a vaccine-autism connection seems to go a long way towards people believing in such a connection. I feel extremely cynical, but why this plotline (a vaccine-autism link) out of other possible plotlines about autism? Cynical me thinks that the network wanted for the most controversial angle.

]]> By: Cliff http://www.blisstree.com/articles/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-546630 Cliff Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:55:55 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/#comment-546630 I might say that in isolated cases it might make people believe the plot line, but if you are uninformed in the issues, it may actually seem to be totally whole cloth, in the same way any TV conspiracy might be created. We're from the position that knows that people had this view in real life, if you weren't aware of that it's not particularly distinguishable from other such creations. HOWEVER, people may well believe that kind of conspiracy anyway, but that's sort of another issue (because it's broader and less deep, regarding the creation of conspiracy on television). Cliff I might say that in isolated cases it might make people believe the plot line, but if you are uninformed in the issues, it may actually seem to be totally whole cloth, in the same way any TV conspiracy might be created. We’re from the position that knows that people had this view in real life, if you weren’t aware of that it’s not particularly distinguishable from other such creations. HOWEVER, people may well believe that kind of conspiracy anyway, but that’s sort of another issue (because it’s broader and less deep, regarding the creation of conspiracy on television).

Cliff

]]> By: Regan http://www.blisstree.com/articles/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-546397 Regan Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:47:05 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/#comment-546397 I guess we will see. I don't know whether Cliff's view that folks will see that it's only TV is correct or not,even with the fantastic premise, although one can hope. I have within memory occasions of having to ARGUE and and then drag out the books to show that something in a fictional program was, in fact, not fact or even based in fact. I guess we will see.
I don’t know whether Cliff’s view that folks will see that it’s only TV is correct or not,even with the fantastic premise, although one can hope. I have within memory occasions of having to ARGUE and and then drag out the books to show that something in a fictional program was, in fact, not fact or even based in fact.

]]> By: Emily http://www.blisstree.com/articles/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/comment-page-1/#comment-546323 Emily Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:41:01 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/bad-publicity-is-still-publicity-the-aap-and-abcs-eli-stone/#comment-546323 Bollocks. That letter is not intended as "censorship." It's not requesting that ABC cancel the show for reasons of religion or politics or personal morality, but for reasons of public health. I wonder how the president of ABC would feel about a chain reaction of events like this one: Pregnant mother watches show. Pregnant mother develops uninformed leeriness about vaccines. After the birth, mother decides not to get earliest vaccinations for child. Child contracts pertussis from grandparent at age three months because of waning immunity in that age group and increasing pertussis cases in many communities. Child dies after tiny lungs burst. Yep, that's totally worth a stupid TV show right there. I didn't make that scenario up, by the way. A very similar scenario actually happened here where I live. Bollocks. That letter is not intended as “censorship.” It’s not requesting that ABC cancel the show for reasons of religion or politics or personal morality, but for reasons of public health. I wonder how the president of ABC would feel about a chain reaction of events like this one: Pregnant mother watches show. Pregnant mother develops uninformed leeriness about vaccines. After the birth, mother decides not to get earliest vaccinations for child. Child contracts pertussis from grandparent at age three months because of waning immunity in that age group and increasing pertussis cases in many communities. Child dies after tiny lungs burst.

Yep, that’s totally worth a stupid TV show right there.

I didn’t make that scenario up, by the way. A very similar scenario actually happened here where I live.

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