Comments on: “Common Origin” for Autism and Schizophrenia?

By: Amby

Amby — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:45:56 +0000

Both are on the same part Spectrum. They say some childhood disease can effect reproduction. I wonder if a disease like a virus from childhood can effect unfertilized eggs ?

By: Kristina Chew, PhD

Kristina Chew, PhD — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 01:35:57 +0000

@Amby, thanks for writing about your family—-wondering what you mean by your eggs being “injured”? Are both of your children (if I may ask) pretty much on the same part of the spectrum? Regards—-

By: Amby

Amby — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:53:09 +0000

I have 2 kids on the spectrum and they look normal both have high IQ’s. They’ve actually been asked to model. Some kids with Autism have different DNA than there parents and the same with Schizo. They can do a DNA test to check for some Schizo.
People asked well never used any of that diet crap etc. Didn’t drink, smoke etc. My kids didn’t get MMR on time and still have it. I have no genetic disorder in my family either. Except maybe Asperger’s. Hubby and I under 30 at the time. Normal birth etc.
The only thing I wonder if some how my eggs were injured as a child? I know that found silly but I had a bunch of childhood disease before age 5. I didn’t get completely needled until age 6.

By: Navi

Navi — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:30:50 +0000

If the science was only about $ the last 8 yrs perhaps the administration would not have fought it tooth & nail. And they don’t prescribe iodine for low thyroid that I know of. The salt supplies it. As far as I know they prescribe things like Synthroid. Lack of iodine is not ignored by drs, and the money doesn’t go to big pharmaceuticals (othewise it’d be a pill instead of in salt…) I read about iodine doing a highschool paper in the 90s. I’d hardly call that hidden information…. (I’m not a scientist, was just a kid intersted in a disorder that affected her family members, none of whom have diabetes… Meaning none of the ones with thyroid problems. The ones with diabetes don’t have thyroid problems…)

By: Emily

Emily — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:03:15 +0000

They may all be “chemical” fake sugar, but they aren’t all the same chemical, and it’s not hair splitting to say that the body knows that. And your “molecular makeup” is…um, chemical.

I really hate it when people try to sound all sciency without actually knowing any science. That’s not directed at you, Moi, necessarily, but it just drives me nuts because I know that the uneducated person will see something like “chemicals are bad for you!” and just believe it as though it made any kind of sense at all.

You’re gonna have to provide some documentation for what you’re saying about thyroid, carbs, diabetes and thyroid, etc. I’m afraid that you are talking about the link between Type I diabetes and thyroid, which is actually a link forged in the autoimmune nature of both disorders. The highest frequency of the two together occurs among people with type 1 diabetes. The link between thyroid disorder and Type 2 is being elderly…they’re most commonly found together in old people. Given that they’re both intimate participants in the endocrine system, it’s no surprise that the two occur together.

And I have NO IDEA why you’re referencing chemo drugs and a “radiation machine” when discussing thyroid disorders. Are you referring to thyroid cancer, which is treated with RA-I? The body’s I requirement is very low and with iodized salt, I as a factor in thyroid issues in places like the US and where iodized salt is used is rare. The prevalent thyroid disorders are autoimmune disorders involving TPO and other antibodies, not having anything to do with iodine.

Sure, money’s a part of many pursuits. But I can assure you that the people who study the mechanisms of physiology in university labs around the world aren’t doing it for lucre because there ain’t a lot of lucre there.

And Phil…exactly.

By: Kristina Chew, PhD

Kristina Chew, PhD — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:43:54 +0000

Phil Schwarz wrote:

“Let me get this straight: Ploeger’s paper is a review of previous literature, and she’s trying to use the historically abysmally low quality of older research in the mental health fields to guide her to new insights about autism and schizophrenia? Spare me. Cue the gong and the big hook.”

Yes, that’s the case!

By: Moi

Moi — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:25:24 +0000

Emily, I say “Culprit” as averse to “culprits” (No Hair Splitting) because they are all Chemical Fake Sugar, which is one Category. There is a documented rise in BC since the use of Aspartame, defending the CFS is just ridiculous. Assuming that any chemical you put into your body (including things like Tylenol) would not potentially harm you or a baby – even before pregnancy – is just naive. All chemicals screw with your molecular makeup.

Navi, in many cases iodine deficiency does seem to be the problem. Although you can’t get doctors to buy it, because that radiation machine and those chemo drugs make money. (You know, the drug company thing again?) Otherwise it would be prescribed for BC and fibrocystic disease.

However, the no-carb craze (or no bread/sugar/white carb craze) represents that the thyroid is the culprit because of carbs. Not iodine. People who have pre-diabetes problems almost always have thyroid issues. Why they only prescribe iodine in the most severe cases is beyond me.

My sincere belief is that this is all – and ONLY – about Money. After the last 8 years, anyone who doesn’t honestly believe that the WHOLE SYSTEM isn’t about Money First is just an ostrich.

By: donald savitz

donald savitz — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:32:40 +0000

I keep telling you not to drink the water or give it to your childern that are not at least 10 to 12 years old. As you and they are drinking lead and arsenic which are not good for you when pregant or them at an earily stage of life. When the brain is tell forming!!!

By: Kristina Chew, PhD

Kristina Chew, PhD — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:02:08 +0000

no artificial sweeteners here……

By: David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction)

David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction) — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:34:19 +0000

LZ: “Besides having his work criticized by a panel of drug company lackeys from the UK, nobody has been able to disprove his theories.”

Um… it’s not for others to disprove his theories; it’s for him to find sufficient evidence to back them up. That’s basically how science works.

Emily: “I don’t really know how they ‘do’ dissertations in psych, but a ‘review’ wouldn’t cut it in the fields I’m familiar with.”

I’m in psychology, and I can tell you that review-based work would not get anyone a Ph. D. in psychology. Not from a reputable university, at least. There would have to be some hypothesis testing. Even in qualitative research.