Comments on: David Kirby (and the supposed vaccine-autism link) deconstructed, yet again

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Autism “Debates” — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:04:27 +0000

[...] follow this topic have, too, regularly noted David Kirby’s reliance on rebranding and rhetoric to keep the notion of a vaccine-autism link alive. “‘You don’t vaccinate a sick [...]

By: donald savitz

donald savitz — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:16:27 +0000

@storkdoc ; if you give some one a small dose of any thing that does not kill that person you are poisoning no matter what it may be. As you know that arsenic is also knowned as a heavy metal as with that of lead and mercury. a.good read at this website might be worth a lood at. cnn/HEALTH/librnay/FL/00068.html So today we get a small amount of these though the water supply that we drink eney day. The smaller you are the nore effect it has on the body.

By: Ed

Ed — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:59:29 +0000

@Storkdok

I have not read the book, but I will. My hope is that it does not just offer psychiatric drugs like wellbutrin or stimulants such as adderall. That was all that was available during my son’s childhood. If this is all that is available, then I still say that it is no wonder that parents look for alternatives.

By: Storkdok

Storkdok — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:41:41 +0000

@Ed
If you are really serious about that, read Dr. Michael Chez’s book, “Autism and It’s Medical Management”. It lists the options for mainstream and cutting edge but not quack medicines/treatments. Modern medicine does offer options. It just recognizes that there isn’t a cure and it isn’t “poisoning”.

By: Ed

Ed — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:34:14 +0000

@Storkdok

I do not want to see children given treatments that are dangerous or do not work. At the same time, I look forward to the day when modern medicine has something that works for autistic children so that this does not happen.

By: Storkdok

Storkdok — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:19:55 +0000

I saved two children from the DAN doctors this week, they won’t be getting unnecessary unproved treatments or chelation, and will be seeing competent, trained autism specialists.

By: donald savitz

donald savitz — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:11:35 +0000

Digger or any one that might stell may be you all should look up the symptoms for arsenic poisoning. You may get this with fluoridated water[lead and arsenic].You never know but this may help with the stomach pains. Just a though!!!

By: Regan

Regan — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:35:47 +0000

Digger,
Let’s put the matter plain.
What exactly are you looking for here?
If it’s a VICP judgment settlement, that’s in the hands of the Omnibus Hearings which are closely examining various permutations of this theory in discussion with some of the best in the business; they may be issuing some kind of decision soon. If you are looking at civil liability–there’s a case in Georgia, that will go forward or not, depending on Daubert and circumstances. If it’s a congressional hearing or a legislative solution, I suggest writing your representatives. If you are looking to debate and joust with a receptive audience for your investigations and theories, I suggest Respectful Insolence or one of the science blogs–coincidentally there is a discussion on the exact matters over at ScienceBlogs bookclub. I am sure there are persons there who more than welcome the challenge. If you want commiseration, Age of Autism would be more than happy.
Do you want someone to say, “Good work”, or “I am sorry for your tragic circumstances?” Or do you simply want to stir up people, be provocative and insulting in apparent effort to make them as angry as you appear to be, or be witness to a vent? (The things that you are citing are more than available at whale.to and other websites.) And then what?

what the hell are we doing leaving these kids
to languish in their toxic soup and let there brains
shrivel up and die
I don’t know what you were doing tonight but my daughter and I had an enjoyable time making dinner together, as learning to cook is one of our goals in her curriculum. I think in a little bit we will play a board game and then read a book together, as we do most evenings.

I think I will simply agree to disagree and to keep my own counsel. Good night and best wishes to you and your son, sincerely. I hope that you find resolution to the issues that have you concerned. And if my reply is unsatisfactory–so it goes. Please feel free to reply as you see fit or not. I won’t be commenting further.

By: Digger

Digger — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 02:14:57 +0000

Ed
if you only knew what my son is doing now, he is making screams and noises that animals make
he scratches us, he has destroyed the house all glass had to be changed to Plexiglas because he had went through two glass windows. He also has broken the plumbing off under the house
he has torn up three couches and three beds
with mattresses so how do you say I was wrong’
by what I said. He also has three times the testostarone as a normal child and is on lupron
with out it his brain would die. He has the labs from lab core proving heavy metal toxicity,
so what the hell are we doing leaving these kids
to languish in their toxic soup and let there brains
shrivel up and die and you Ed saying I don’t believe this is a conspiracy you really need to look up the definition for that is exactly what this is, definition of conspiracy is a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act, the last time I checked
poisoning children is a unlawful act and when you conspire to keep it in the children after knowing the damage done to keep the autism
rate climbing then it is no longer a unlawful act it
then becomes worse than treason and just
plain sick… so you betcha this is a conspiracy
and the worse kind, one against helpless children

You hurt me ED