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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/drinking-while-pregnant-linked-to-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-565787</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why is it then that so many people do not see anything wrong with drinking while pregnant? Is it just not enough education, or plain stupidity? We all know that its not good for you and if you do it just because you want to then you shouldnt be pregnant. When your pregnant its not about what you want but what is best for the baby. Alcohol is not that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why is it then that so many people do not see anything wrong with drinking while pregnant? Is it just not enough education, or plain stupidity? We all know that its not good for you and if you do it just because you want to then you shouldnt be pregnant. When your pregnant its not about what you want but what is best for the baby. Alcohol is not that.</p>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 05:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I was saying is this:  Autism is associated with alcoholism.  Alcoholism in mothers is a form of neglect.  In other words, if the mother is an alcoholic she is prone to be neglectful.  Therefore, if Greenspan is right, then this *might* be a validation of Greenspan.  

This knowledge is widespread among psychiatrists.  They just call neglect induced autism  &quot;reactive attachment disorder&quot; or &quot;Institutionalism&quot; to be polite.  They don&#039;t dare call it autism because mothers of autistic children will kick the doodoo out of their butts.  

Anyway, look at these studies:

http://www.adoptionarticlesdirectory.com/Article/The-second-glance-at-institutional-autism-in-internationally-adopted-children/81

http://www.mcgill.ca/headway/fall2006/indepth1/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I was saying is this:  Autism is associated with alcoholism.  Alcoholism in mothers is a form of neglect.  In other words, if the mother is an alcoholic she is prone to be neglectful.  Therefore, if Greenspan is right, then this *might* be a validation of Greenspan.  </p>
<p>This knowledge is widespread among psychiatrists.  They just call neglect induced autism  &#8220;reactive attachment disorder&#8221; or &#8220;Institutionalism&#8221; to be polite.  They don&#8217;t dare call it autism because mothers of autistic children will kick the doodoo out of their butts.  </p>
<p>Anyway, look at these studies:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.adoptionarticlesdirectory.com/Article/The-second-glance-at-institutional-autism-in-internationally-adopted-children/81" rel="nofollow">http://www.adoptionarticlesdirectory.com/Article/The-second-glance-at-institutional-autism-in-internationally-adopted-children/81</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mcgill.ca/headway/fall2006/indepth1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mcgill.ca/headway/fall2006/indepth1/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since association is not the same as causation, I don&#039;t understand why there isn&#039;t more talk about the causation going in the other direction.  Perhaps mild autism in the mother can lead to drinking alcohol to self-medicate.  Maybe that was what larry was saying, but I&#039;m too linear a thinker to be sure.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since association is not the same as causation, I don&#8217;t understand why there isn&#8217;t more talk about the causation going in the other direction.  Perhaps mild autism in the mother can lead to drinking alcohol to self-medicate.  Maybe that was what larry was saying, but I&#8217;m too linear a thinker to be sure.  <img src='http://www.blisstree.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@laurentius-rex, 

me having my mind stuck on the ancient world: this is not perhaps the best comparison, but your comment makes me think about the fairly recent interest among ancient historians etc. about slaves. to find out about what their lives were like, you have to read between the lines so carefully, and not only in literature, in medical texts, in (especially revealing) legal texts that are dryer than any potato crisp. when one starts to think that there may have been as many as 5 slaves to one Roman citizen, there&#039;s a sense (to me) of a huge vastness---how many lives that were &quot;different&quot; do we just not know about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@laurentius-rex, </p>
<p>me having my mind stuck on the ancient world: this is not perhaps the best comparison, but your comment makes me think about the fairly recent interest among ancient historians etc. about slaves. to find out about what their lives were like, you have to read between the lines so carefully, and not only in literature, in medical texts, in (especially revealing) legal texts that are dryer than any potato crisp. when one starts to think that there may have been as many as 5 slaves to one Roman citizen, there&#8217;s a sense (to me) of a huge vastness&#8212;how many lives that were &#8220;different&#8221; do we just not know about.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pre-press publicity?

Laurentius, well said. I think the emphasis on sociological or trend explanations is because as people, we always think we&#039;re doing something new, not realizing that thousands have walked similar paths before us. There are so many, &quot;If this causes autism, then...&quot; statements that should shunt aside several proposed etiologies once and for all, but...they never seem to do so. The power of magical thinking over the human mind is so evolutionarily hardwired, we simply can&#039;t resist it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pre-press publicity?</p>
<p>Laurentius, well said. I think the emphasis on sociological or trend explanations is because as people, we always think we&#8217;re doing something new, not realizing that thousands have walked similar paths before us. There are so many, &#8220;If this causes autism, then&#8230;&#8221; statements that should shunt aside several proposed etiologies once and for all, but&#8230;they never seem to do so. The power of magical thinking over the human mind is so evolutionarily hardwired, we simply can&#8217;t resist it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just a report of a study, the actual study itself hasn&#039;t come out yet.   The lead researcher doesn&#039;t want to cite any specific results until it does.  Why, then is this guy even giving interviews about the study?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just a report of a study, the actual study itself hasn&#8217;t come out yet.   The lead researcher doesn&#8217;t want to cite any specific results until it does.  Why, then is this guy even giving interviews about the study?</p>
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		<title>By: laurentius-rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurentius-rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems I have nothing better to do than write on blogs all day and I suppose there is an idea here that ought to be elaborated on and maybe will be....

But what I am observing with Autism is that the way it is &quot;concieved&quot; of, and the desire to find its causation rooted in the desire for elimination is driven by social trends.

There are those who contend that Autism is an entirely modern late industrial phenomenon that only came into being during the second world war and the years preceeding it.

Autism is equated by such people with a great evil and with fanaticism of the Amish decry every modern invention as the cause of it, from television, mobile phones, vaccination, drunkeness in women, and no doubt immodesty in dress (there will be a study blaming the bikini somewhere take my word on it) to what is in the water.

This is social process, window dressing, and not revealing of anything about autism itself other than the fixation it has in the social minds of some people.

To give a thing a name somehow seems to give it being, as if Unicorns can exist because we have named and described what they should be.

That which we call Autism, like the poor has always been with us, but it is only because of changes and trends in society that it has been given a name, but think on this if Autism is the worst thing that can befall the child of an alcoholic mother, then the 18th century London of Hogarth&#039;s &quot;gin lane&quot; must have been full of autism, before there was even a television set to distract the child into further depravity. No doubt Autism was as rife in 18th century London as it was in prechristian Babylon, because Autism has always been there. What is different is that it ought to be obvious that those other societies lacked the tools or language to describe it as this is a product of our modern times. 

I am sure alcohol is inadvisable for any pregnant woman, but not because autism is the worst or the only outcome I am sure. 

Autism has become a folk demon and that is the real story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems I have nothing better to do than write on blogs all day and I suppose there is an idea here that ought to be elaborated on and maybe will be&#8230;.</p>
<p>But what I am observing with Autism is that the way it is &#8220;concieved&#8221; of, and the desire to find its causation rooted in the desire for elimination is driven by social trends.</p>
<p>There are those who contend that Autism is an entirely modern late industrial phenomenon that only came into being during the second world war and the years preceeding it.</p>
<p>Autism is equated by such people with a great evil and with fanaticism of the Amish decry every modern invention as the cause of it, from television, mobile phones, vaccination, drunkeness in women, and no doubt immodesty in dress (there will be a study blaming the bikini somewhere take my word on it) to what is in the water.</p>
<p>This is social process, window dressing, and not revealing of anything about autism itself other than the fixation it has in the social minds of some people.</p>
<p>To give a thing a name somehow seems to give it being, as if Unicorns can exist because we have named and described what they should be.</p>
<p>That which we call Autism, like the poor has always been with us, but it is only because of changes and trends in society that it has been given a name, but think on this if Autism is the worst thing that can befall the child of an alcoholic mother, then the 18th century London of Hogarth&#8217;s &#8220;gin lane&#8221; must have been full of autism, before there was even a television set to distract the child into further depravity. No doubt Autism was as rife in 18th century London as it was in prechristian Babylon, because Autism has always been there. What is different is that it ought to be obvious that those other societies lacked the tools or language to describe it as this is a product of our modern times. </p>
<p>I am sure alcohol is inadvisable for any pregnant woman, but not because autism is the worst or the only outcome I am sure. </p>
<p>Autism has become a folk demon and that is the real story.</p>
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		<title>By: KC'sMommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC'sMommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In K.C.&#039;s case I didn&#039;t drink a drop of alcohol either. My goodness there they go blaming the Mother&#039;s again!
K.C.&#039;s Autism is genetic, he didn&#039;t suddenly have a period of &quot;normalcy&quot; and then turn Autistic. He was always Autistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In K.C.&#8217;s case I didn&#8217;t drink a drop of alcohol either. My goodness there they go blaming the Mother&#8217;s again!<br />
K.C.&#8217;s Autism is genetic, he didn&#8217;t suddenly have a period of &#8220;normalcy&#8221; and then turn Autistic. He was always Autistic.</p>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will never, ever, learn squat about autism until we open our minds in defiance of decorum.   What if autism is a form of craziness,  just like OCD or anorexia-nervosa or schizoid personality disorder or reactive attachment disorder--or alcoholism???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will never, ever, learn squat about autism until we open our minds in defiance of decorum.   What if autism is a form of craziness,  just like OCD or anorexia-nervosa or schizoid personality disorder or reactive attachment disorder&#8211;or alcoholism???</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 03:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soon, we&#039;ll come back around to mothers who keep their beer in refrigerators as the cause of autism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soon, we&#8217;ll come back around to mothers who keep their beer in refrigerators as the cause of autism.</p>
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