Comments on: Genetic Predispositions and Environmental Triggers

By: donald savitz

donald savitz — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:30:56 +0000

I wish I had read the Boston Globe article before i worte the other post.Becaue I like what they said that there where no obvious things to track, so the first things where going to be pesticdes then going to sickness or even if they were sick when they a child os back to genes. The one thing Ididn”t was any thing to do with the water with MAN MADE FLUORIDE in it with its [lead and arsenic]. Like said before that they will be lookig for some that effects a few and apply it to all. But I don”t think that speaying in Calf. is going to have the same effect on some one in down town Hackensack NJ. The only thing I maor aless agree on is that you keep on drinking the water with the {lead and lead] you keep opening the sore on that gene tell it may so damaged that it may not be able to recover or even get worse then we know what the end game will be.

By: donald savitz

donald savitz — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:31:36 +0000

c.s.; I also feel sorry for the childern with and there faimly, but I just would like to see alo fewer of them over time. I am like you I would like to know what genius thought it might be the environment now are they the geniuses that for years said it was in genes or caused by the thimerosal in the vaccines. You just have to wounder what they will thank up to study this time. I bet it will be some thing very strange or far out like pixy dust whitch will be hard to find. I remembered some thing you said in yor other post about the teacher said about trailer park trash, just look at it this way if you know about it you must have been the youself.

By: laurentius-rex

laurentius-rex — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:56:39 +0000

Hops are a member of the Hemp family related to guess what?

By: Justthisguy

Justthisguy — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:40:36 +0000

Oh, in Samarra? That’s close to home for me, I being an American and my country’s army operating there.

Oh yeah on the beer, you have to boil the water first, and then you put in the alewort (ivy) and later, hops, as disinfectants. I do love me some India Pale Ale, with LOTSA hops! I could do with less alcohol in it, though.

I think hops have a calming influence on me. I think that I did read somewhere, that George III, when he was having his mental problems, could not get a good night’s sleep unless he laid his head on a pillow stuffed full of hop blossoms.

By: laurentius-rex

laurentius-rex — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:28:01 +0000

The reason for the predominance of beer drinking in the past is simple, the water could not be trusted to drink and the side effects of alcohol intoxication were a lot milder than the consequences of typhoid or cholera.

No species ever operates at its cognitive, or physiological maximum, there is a wide degree of tolerance to a hostile environment, it is in the big picture what matters, and the fact we are all here demonstrates that. One simply cannot eliminate all risk, as soon as we do something unexpected comes along, it is like the old story where the guy rides halfway accross the world because he saw death coming for him that morning in the marketplace. He meets up with death just the same, who tell him, that he was puzzled as to why he was so far away from there appointment in the morning.

By: Justthisguy

Justthisguy — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:19:28 +0000

Oh, yeah! Back when, pregnant women were encouraged to drink beer, for the B vitamins which were in it. Back before our refined and etiolated beers, that is.

I can’t believe a pint of organic stout every week or so would harm Mom or foetus, and might do them both good. You betcha all of my female ancestors up until maybe 1800 followed that plan.

By: Kristina Chew, PhD

Kristina Chew, PhD — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:22:08 +0000

And as I understand from talking to “the husband,” in the not-too-distant past (as in this century), expecting moms were known to imbibe. Beer in one’s oatmeal, lovely combo! (not that they were thus consumed)

Off-topic, am a huge fan of George Eliot and Thomas Hardy.

By: Emily

Emily — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:45:01 +0000

Kristina…beer and oats, if I remember correctly. When he was an *infant.* He looked sickly, apparently, and that was the “cure.” He must actually have been quite tough to survive that.

Whenever I read my favorite century literature (the 19th), I’m always astonished at the amount of alcoholic beverages people of all ages consume. Just finished Dombey and Son, and the delicate “son” of the title receives porter rather than small beer at the midday meal (he’s about six) because of his delicate constitution. The hope was that the porter would give him more strength.

Anyway…imagine what all of that ethanol was doing to those young, growing minds. And there’s also reference in that novel–very casual, it’s-totally-normal type reference–to a pregnant woman getting in her cups.

By: Kristina Chew, PhD

Kristina Chew, PhD — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:28:09 +0000

@Emily, so what did they feed James?

@CS Wyatt, yes I do think some kind of prenatal genetic test will appear at some point maybe even soon—hope that understanding about autism might keep growing so people can make the right decisions.

By: laurentius-rex

laurentius-rex — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:24:10 +0000

Yeah we have flouride and that wasn’t there to start with (probably was not there when I was younger) as for the rest of it, it is everything that everyone upwind of Gloucester pees into the river via the sewage works, that is every drug that was ever prescribed in microscopic amounts.