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		<title>By: The Burden and the Goal</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Burden and the Goal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] many families struggle (and then some) to pay for therapies for their children (though thinking about autistic children solely in terms of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] many families struggle (and then some) to pay for therapies for their children (though thinking about autistic children solely in terms of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Sayers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie Sayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 01:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first got my computer in Dec of 99 I joined several onelists (now yahoo groups) and one was DTT-NET.  I was clueless as to what they were all talking about but stayed on there for a few years.

I do regret not looking further into Lovaas since we are here in Los Angeles, but as a single parent with two kids under three with the dx it was hard to do a lot and then dealing with driving and traffic would have been too much.

There was Dr Rikki Robinson and BJ Freeman at UCLA.  I did look into Auditory Training at some clinic in Pasadena but could not get funding, they said they would reimburse me and that was a lot to come up with at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first got my computer in Dec of 99 I joined several onelists (now yahoo groups) and one was DTT-NET.  I was clueless as to what they were all talking about but stayed on there for a few years.</p>
<p>I do regret not looking further into Lovaas since we are here in Los Angeles, but as a single parent with two kids under three with the dx it was hard to do a lot and then dealing with driving and traffic would have been too much.</p>
<p>There was Dr Rikki Robinson and BJ Freeman at UCLA.  I did look into Auditory Training at some clinic in Pasadena but could not get funding, they said they would reimburse me and that was a lot to come up with at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Sayers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie Sayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see fees for therapy on craigslist and they are very high, also the same could be said for caregivers or respite workers.  The funding agencies pay so little on one hand and then the individuals want so much to work independently.  Then you would have to have extra insurance to protect your home and family, etc.

I have issues with assessments and the way they portray me at times and the lengths therapists go to get more hours at the expense of the family or kid.  I dont want that data in a file for the rest of his life.  I also do not like cross agencies contacting each other or some therapist going to school and then doing a report and the parent not really knowing what is going on, so to keep family intact and save my sanity we have never done ABA.  We did floor time and hope to get a new therapist for that in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see fees for therapy on craigslist and they are very high, also the same could be said for caregivers or respite workers.  The funding agencies pay so little on one hand and then the individuals want so much to work independently.  Then you would have to have extra insurance to protect your home and family, etc.</p>
<p>I have issues with assessments and the way they portray me at times and the lengths therapists go to get more hours at the expense of the family or kid.  I dont want that data in a file for the rest of his life.  I also do not like cross agencies contacting each other or some therapist going to school and then doing a report and the parent not really knowing what is going on, so to keep family intact and save my sanity we have never done ABA.  We did floor time and hope to get a new therapist for that in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Paying the Bills: Seeking Insurance Coverage in Missouri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paying the Bills: Seeking Insurance Coverage in Missouri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] notes that one family, Molly and Steve Schad whose 7-year-old son Harry is autistic, have spent about $60,000 in treatments over the past 5 years. They have refinanced their home &#8220;several times,&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] notes that one family, Molly and Steve Schad whose 7-year-old son Harry is autistic, have spent about $60,000 in treatments over the past 5 years. They have refinanced their home &#8220;several times,&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vaccine Awareness from David Kirby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vaccine Awareness from David Kirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or only about one small slice of the many things that need to get talked about regarding autism: Paying for things (therapy, services, utility bills). How to help your kid learn to stop at the sidewalk. How to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or only about one small slice of the many things that need to get talked about regarding autism: Paying for things (therapy, services, utility bills). How to help your kid learn to stop at the sidewalk. How to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Moi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We kind of talked about this once before here - we have been fairly lucky.  PA has a lot of benefits - I have never paid for a thing. 

Now, I didn&#039;t *want* intensive ABA; I bought Lovaas&#039; book and learned to do it myself, used what I wanted and trashed the rest.   But early intervention through the IU (Intermediate Unit) has people who know ABA and they use it.

His medical is covered by the DPW (Welfare) so meds are covered 100%; the IU provides speech, social skills therapy, and his aide at school (they also are responsible for early intervention).  

MH/MR (Mental Health/Mental Retardation) provides his counselor; they contract out through various agencies, and will not give your info to the school should you want to have psycho therapy.  This is really important for teenagers.

All three agencies provide TSSs and BSCs.  My son has a BSC, but not a TSS, even though he has an aide at school.  She&#039;s a school district employee, and the school bills the IU for her paycheck.  

Weird, but it works for me.  The things I have had to fight for all have had to do with services and educational supports, etc. because of NCLB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We kind of talked about this once before here &#8211; we have been fairly lucky.  PA has a lot of benefits &#8211; I have never paid for a thing. </p>
<p>Now, I didn&#8217;t *want* intensive ABA; I bought Lovaas&#8217; book and learned to do it myself, used what I wanted and trashed the rest.   But early intervention through the IU (Intermediate Unit) has people who know ABA and they use it.</p>
<p>His medical is covered by the DPW (Welfare) so meds are covered 100%; the IU provides speech, social skills therapy, and his aide at school (they also are responsible for early intervention).  </p>
<p>MH/MR (Mental Health/Mental Retardation) provides his counselor; they contract out through various agencies, and will not give your info to the school should you want to have psycho therapy.  This is really important for teenagers.</p>
<p>All three agencies provide TSSs and BSCs.  My son has a BSC, but not a TSS, even though he has an aide at school.  She&#8217;s a school district employee, and the school bills the IU for her paycheck.  </p>
<p>Weird, but it works for me.  The things I have had to fight for all have had to do with services and educational supports, etc. because of NCLB.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It never seems like it is-----and the legislation about insurance coverage for autism would have helped, right (if I may ask)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It never seems like it is&#8212;&#8211;and the legislation about insurance coverage for autism would have helped, right (if I may ask)?</p>
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		<title>By: rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do we pay?  We don&#039;t, we can&#039;t.  My husband and I work 3 jobs just to pay our mortgage every month for a home with major repair needs that go unfixed.  No cable, no cell phones, no soda or junk food, eating out or anything.  And I have maybe $100 left over after expenses to split between my two boys, 3 and 2 both on the spectrum.  My oldest is in EC thru the school system and my younger still gets Birth to 3 services, but unless WI steps up and starts paying for services, We just can&#039;t afford it  for one, let alone 2.  We do as much as we can reading and working with L and K at home, I stay with them during the days and work nights.  But its hard to do full time therapy for two kids, plus run a household, laundry, meals, etc.  But we try.  I hope it is enough, even though I know it isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do we pay?  We don&#8217;t, we can&#8217;t.  My husband and I work 3 jobs just to pay our mortgage every month for a home with major repair needs that go unfixed.  No cable, no cell phones, no soda or junk food, eating out or anything.  And I have maybe $100 left over after expenses to split between my two boys, 3 and 2 both on the spectrum.  My oldest is in EC thru the school system and my younger still gets Birth to 3 services, but unless WI steps up and starts paying for services, We just can&#8217;t afford it  for one, let alone 2.  We do as much as we can reading and working with L and K at home, I stay with them during the days and work nights.  But its hard to do full time therapy for two kids, plus run a household, laundry, meals, etc.  But we try.  I hope it is enough, even though I know it isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrick,

It just seems too often that we hear about &quot;training by an expert for staff&quot; and it&#039;s something less than that.

@Jill,

I think you note the core of the problem: Services are needed and it&#039;s amazing, and exhausting, what has to get done just to get a few things funded. The one solution I&#039;ve found---it&#039;s not really a solution, but what you have to do---is to learn as much as I can about teaching my son (for a while, that meant teaching him to deal with anxiety and to communicate that anxiety before he was really upset).

@Marla,

We recently discontinued home ABA therapy for Charlie---it was like paying a second rent. And it was time to end---on the other hand, the rent that we pay to live in this town with the school program for Charlie often feels like a sort of &quot;tuition&quot; for him.

I&#039;m looking forward already to your next post on Autism: The Musical!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrick,</p>
<p>It just seems too often that we hear about &#8220;training by an expert for staff&#8221; and it&#8217;s something less than that.</p>
<p>@Jill,</p>
<p>I think you note the core of the problem: Services are needed and it&#8217;s amazing, and exhausting, what has to get done just to get a few things funded. The one solution I&#8217;ve found&#8212;it&#8217;s not really a solution, but what you have to do&#8212;is to learn as much as I can about teaching my son (for a while, that meant teaching him to deal with anxiety and to communicate that anxiety before he was really upset).</p>
<p>@Marla,</p>
<p>We recently discontinued home ABA therapy for Charlie&#8212;it was like paying a second rent. And it was time to end&#8212;on the other hand, the rent that we pay to live in this town with the school program for Charlie often feels like a sort of &#8220;tuition&#8221; for him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward already to your next post on Autism: The Musical!</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think part of the problem is that even the autism community is divided on how ABA should be funded. Some advocate for insurance, some think education should pay for it and some, like myself, are working on both ends and hoping that it will be funded one way or another. I don&#039;t know the best solution to this problem but I do know that children need this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think part of the problem is that even the autism community is divided on how ABA should be funded. Some advocate for insurance, some think education should pay for it and some, like myself, are working on both ends and hoping that it will be funded one way or another. I don&#8217;t know the best solution to this problem but I do know that children need this.</p>
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