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		<title>By: Genes, Activism, and Why We Still Have the Push Mower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genes, Activism, and Why We Still Have the Push Mower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] May 18th post, Infants and Autism and Education on prenatal genetic testing is included in the June 3rd Gene Genie, a blog carnival on genetics, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gene Genie in Mendel's Garden &#8212; Eye on DNA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Genie in Mendel's Garden &#8212; Eye on DNA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 17:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Infants and Autism and Education at Autism Vox [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Autism Vox &#187; Education Dilemmas and Empowerment</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/infants-and-autism-and-education/comment-page-1/#comment-534558</link>
		<dc:creator>Autism Vox &#187; Education Dilemmas and Empowerment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 09:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fast for Charlie. We have been thinking that, further down the road, Charlie might be able to participate in subjects such as some athletics (maybe) or music (maybe) under structured circumstances. I welcome the time [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fast for Charlie. We have been thinking that, further down the road, Charlie might be able to participate in subjects such as some athletics (maybe) or music (maybe) under structured circumstances. I welcome the time [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 04:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP was into his kindergarten year before we knew about his Asperger&#039;s.  He had been &quot;kicked out&quot; of three pre-schools prior to going into public school.  His kindergarten teacher, who had been there for way too long, told us she was convinced he was ADHD (a much too-used excuse), but we did know something was different.  He does, in fact, have that co-morbid diagnosis.

Eleanor was, in fact, much easier to identify.  She was born two weeks before my grandson (my stepdaughter&#039;s son) and, at around 18 months, HE was talking like a big dog and she was not.  That was probably our first big clue.  She made eye contact, but there was no co-play.  At 18 months, she was diagnosed with &quot;global developmental delay&quot; by ECI (which I only was able to find out about by a friend of mine who was a school psychologist).  After 8 months of weekly in-home therapy, she went into our Pre-School Program for Children with Disabilities.  Her progress has been incredible.  She&#039;ll continue in the PPCD-K program this next year, and, probably, go back to our home campus the year after, into the Developmental Program.  When I think of what she has accomplished in the last three years....how she crept out from behind the couch at 18 months to now be in a classroom with four others like her, calling them by name, participating, playing, interacting.....I think she&#039;s the poster child for Early Intervention.  Well, let me re-phrase that....she&#039;s OUR poster child.  What works for Ely doesn&#039;t necessarily work for other kids with autism.  They are each unto their own.  Bless &#039;em for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP was into his kindergarten year before we knew about his Asperger&#8217;s.  He had been &#8220;kicked out&#8221; of three pre-schools prior to going into public school.  His kindergarten teacher, who had been there for way too long, told us she was convinced he was ADHD (a much too-used excuse), but we did know something was different.  He does, in fact, have that co-morbid diagnosis.</p>
<p>Eleanor was, in fact, much easier to identify.  She was born two weeks before my grandson (my stepdaughter&#8217;s son) and, at around 18 months, HE was talking like a big dog and she was not.  That was probably our first big clue.  She made eye contact, but there was no co-play.  At 18 months, she was diagnosed with &#8220;global developmental delay&#8221; by ECI (which I only was able to find out about by a friend of mine who was a school psychologist).  After 8 months of weekly in-home therapy, she went into our Pre-School Program for Children with Disabilities.  Her progress has been incredible.  She&#8217;ll continue in the PPCD-K program this next year, and, probably, go back to our home campus the year after, into the Developmental Program.  When I think of what she has accomplished in the last three years&#8230;.how she crept out from behind the couch at 18 months to now be in a classroom with four others like her, calling them by name, participating, playing, interacting&#8230;..I think she&#8217;s the poster child for Early Intervention.  Well, let me re-phrase that&#8230;.she&#8217;s OUR poster child.  What works for Ely doesn&#8217;t necessarily work for other kids with autism.  They are each unto their own.  Bless &#8216;em for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 21:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie was in daycare when he was about 16-23 months old. He was clearly different from the other children and I think that is the main reason that he was diagnosed as young as he was----had he been home, I think we would have taken the &quot;wait and see&quot; approach, and ended up with a lot of anxiety and wishes that we had found out earlier what was going on through all of his struggling (and there was a lot of it!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie was in daycare when he was about 16-23 months old. He was clearly different from the other children and I think that is the main reason that he was diagnosed as young as he was&#8212;-had he been home, I think we would have taken the &#8220;wait and see&#8221; approach, and ended up with a lot of anxiety and wishes that we had found out earlier what was going on through all of his struggling (and there was a lot of it!).</p>
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		<title>By: Niksmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niksmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 20:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Joeymom&#039;s comment about knowing WHY and HOW the info would be used.  I don&#039;t know how it is in other areas but, when Nik was diagnosed, the doctors never gave us ANY contact information for our local parent resource/traing center or ASA chapter or a social worker to contact...NOTHING.  Now, granted, that **may** have been b/c we were already connected into the 0-3 program in our area (due to Nik&#039;s other disabilities).  But, I kind of doubt it.  Frankly, the diagnosing doc wasn&#039;t much help at all beyond saying Nik should be in some sort of structured program for kids on the spectrum.  DUH.  No clue as to how to get it---Nik had already transitioned to school and they (school) thought we were off-base.  Got all the &quot;medical model v. educational model&quot; crap.  That&#039;s finally changing (we have Nik&#039;s ADOS on Monday).  Still, I cannot help but wonder what gains Nik might have made over the last school year if he had had a more structured environment, more consistency of sensory input, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Joeymom&#8217;s comment about knowing WHY and HOW the info would be used.  I don&#8217;t know how it is in other areas but, when Nik was diagnosed, the doctors never gave us ANY contact information for our local parent resource/traing center or ASA chapter or a social worker to contact&#8230;NOTHING.  Now, granted, that **may** have been b/c we were already connected into the 0-3 program in our area (due to Nik&#8217;s other disabilities).  But, I kind of doubt it.  Frankly, the diagnosing doc wasn&#8217;t much help at all beyond saying Nik should be in some sort of structured program for kids on the spectrum.  DUH.  No clue as to how to get it&#8212;Nik had already transitioned to school and they (school) thought we were off-base.  Got all the &#8220;medical model v. educational model&#8221; crap.  That&#8217;s finally changing (we have Nik&#8217;s ADOS on Monday).  Still, I cannot help but wonder what gains Nik might have made over the last school year if he had had a more structured environment, more consistency of sensory input, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: livsparents</title>
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		<dc:creator>livsparents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Charlie CAN read...the language of MUSIC!  That&#039;s great and telling of while communication may be an issue throughout his life, expression might just develop into something more than expected...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Charlie CAN read&#8230;the language of MUSIC!  That&#8217;s great and telling of while communication may be an issue throughout his life, expression might just develop into something more than expected&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 14:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure what the intent is behind testing. I think it may have been helpful in Rebekah&#039;s case only because I was saying that there was a problem for years before we finally were able to have her tested. She was hitting her milestones and it was behavioral and social issues that were the problem finding out sooner may have helped us get her help before she was 5. I do think that you need to be careful not to diagnose just to lump everyone together, although there are similarities there are also a lot of differences with each child on the spectrum. Ulitmitly I think it could help identify a potential problem and help get the child the help that they need to be successful sooner and that is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure what the intent is behind testing. I think it may have been helpful in Rebekah&#8217;s case only because I was saying that there was a problem for years before we finally were able to have her tested. She was hitting her milestones and it was behavioral and social issues that were the problem finding out sooner may have helped us get her help before she was 5. I do think that you need to be careful not to diagnose just to lump everyone together, although there are similarities there are also a lot of differences with each child on the spectrum. Ulitmitly I think it could help identify a potential problem and help get the child the help that they need to be successful sooner and that is good.</p>
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		<title>By: Joeymom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joeymom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 13:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think the individualization of the program is absolutely necessary- as you have done for Charlie, and I have for Joey. When I read about early identification of kids with disabilities- any disability- my first question is, &quot;How will this help? What will be done differently?&quot; 

Early identification may help parents get started researching sooner. It may help in getting them over the shock of having a child with a disability, so they can move on to accepting the child and helping the child sooner. As infants, shouldn&#039;t you be paying attention to the cues of the child, disabled or not? Shouldn&#039;t you be introducing communication systems? 

Would we have been able to recognize autism in Joey any sooner? Probably not. He was hitting milestones, he was happy, he made eye contact, he smiled and giggled with us. The signs of his autism were all outside the radar; they were oddities in behavior, eccentricities of preference. Joey did not cry much, unless he was very, very upset an in serious need- we still jump when either of our guys cry, even though Andy cried a lot. Joey threw his toys or spun them unstead of playing with them, but untilwe had Andy, we had no idea that very young child just naturally played with toys. 

Early ID just to have an early ID isn&#039;t very useful. It becomes the same problem we have with genetic and prenatal testing- why is it being done? What will this information actually be &lt;i&gt;useful&lt;/i&gt; for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the individualization of the program is absolutely necessary- as you have done for Charlie, and I have for Joey. When I read about early identification of kids with disabilities- any disability- my first question is, &#8220;How will this help? What will be done differently?&#8221; </p>
<p>Early identification may help parents get started researching sooner. It may help in getting them over the shock of having a child with a disability, so they can move on to accepting the child and helping the child sooner. As infants, shouldn&#8217;t you be paying attention to the cues of the child, disabled or not? Shouldn&#8217;t you be introducing communication systems? </p>
<p>Would we have been able to recognize autism in Joey any sooner? Probably not. He was hitting milestones, he was happy, he made eye contact, he smiled and giggled with us. The signs of his autism were all outside the radar; they were oddities in behavior, eccentricities of preference. Joey did not cry much, unless he was very, very upset an in serious need- we still jump when either of our guys cry, even though Andy cried a lot. Joey threw his toys or spun them unstead of playing with them, but untilwe had Andy, we had no idea that very young child just naturally played with toys. </p>
<p>Early ID just to have an early ID isn&#8217;t very useful. It becomes the same problem we have with genetic and prenatal testing- why is it being done? What will this information actually be <i>useful</i> for?</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Cottington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Cottington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 08:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristina,
I completely agree with you and this post.  And especially the last sentence as you well know. :)  

I get excited though, thinking of diagnosing infants.  What I mean is, I had the fortune of being a part of the infant brain research (no, they did not use my brain, but I was able to hear first hand from the researchers) in the early nineties revealing the importance of birth to three early interventions.  At the time I trained under Greenspan and my favorite ped. Dr. T Berry Brazelton for some months in DC, as well as working with Dr. Alice Honig from Syracuse.  I was an Early Intervention Specialist with the Early Head Start Programs which targets at-risk (I hate those words in describing families) children birth to three.  

I just think to my own experience being a mother of an autistic child and the supports I did have through family and education, and then I think of the population I served, and how challenging it may be for a teen mom with no supports and little understanding of child development.  That if there was an ADOS or something that doctors could use for even earlier detection, that some of those children who would typically be at risk for delays anyway, would have an earlier chance to learn modes of communication and other aides (ABA, Floortime, Speech, OT, PT, etc..) that would make their journey in life easier.  

I completely agree with you on the idea of knowing ahead of time to make the best plans for our children as we prepared to birth them, to prepare ourselves on being and doing the best for them and who they are, and all on their own time and readiness.  I love your view and the love that flows when you talk of Charlie.  I am excited to hear of any mainstreaming possibilities you may have with him.  The world needs a Charlie in every classroom, gym, orchestra or track team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristina,<br />
I completely agree with you and this post.  And especially the last sentence as you well know. <img src='http://www.blisstree.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>I get excited though, thinking of diagnosing infants.  What I mean is, I had the fortune of being a part of the infant brain research (no, they did not use my brain, but I was able to hear first hand from the researchers) in the early nineties revealing the importance of birth to three early interventions.  At the time I trained under Greenspan and my favorite ped. Dr. T Berry Brazelton for some months in DC, as well as working with Dr. Alice Honig from Syracuse.  I was an Early Intervention Specialist with the Early Head Start Programs which targets at-risk (I hate those words in describing families) children birth to three.  </p>
<p>I just think to my own experience being a mother of an autistic child and the supports I did have through family and education, and then I think of the population I served, and how challenging it may be for a teen mom with no supports and little understanding of child development.  That if there was an ADOS or something that doctors could use for even earlier detection, that some of those children who would typically be at risk for delays anyway, would have an earlier chance to learn modes of communication and other aides (ABA, Floortime, Speech, OT, PT, etc..) that would make their journey in life easier.  </p>
<p>I completely agree with you on the idea of knowing ahead of time to make the best plans for our children as we prepared to birth them, to prepare ourselves on being and doing the best for them and who they are, and all on their own time and readiness.  I love your view and the love that flows when you talk of Charlie.  I am excited to hear of any mainstreaming possibilities you may have with him.  The world needs a Charlie in every classroom, gym, orchestra or track team.</p>
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