Comments on: Meeting Makers Make It? http://www.blisstree.com/articles/meeting-makers-make-it-16/ Family, Health, Home and Lifestyles Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:37:21 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: howard http://www.blisstree.com/articles/meeting-makers-make-it-16/comment-page-1/#comment-244236 howard Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:42:16 +0000 http://www.adozensteps.com/meeting-makers-make-it/#comment-244236 Some make it after one meeting. Some make it after one meeting.

]]> By: Joe http://www.blisstree.com/articles/meeting-makers-make-it-16/comment-page-1/#comment-1949 Joe Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:25:35 +0000 http://www.adozensteps.com/meeting-makers-make-it/#comment-1949 Each of us is both teacher and student. The written word is often confusing, thank you Mark for providing a forum for discourse. Each of us is both teacher and student. The written word is often confusing, thank you Mark for providing a forum for discourse.

]]> By: Mark http://www.blisstree.com/articles/meeting-makers-make-it-16/comment-page-1/#comment-1953 Mark Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:52:08 +0000 http://www.adozensteps.com/meeting-makers-make-it/#comment-1953 AA still works Joe, it isn't broken. Misinformation arises from the "profound" minds of some of our sicker members, imho, not from the founders and their descendents, and certainly not from AA itself. Strangely (?), as in my case, God had to scream the truth so I would hear it and pay attention and take action. That too was compassion. AA still works Joe, it isn’t broken. Misinformation arises from the “profound” minds of some of our sicker members, imho, not from the founders and their descendents, and certainly not from AA itself.

Strangely (?), as in my case, God had to scream the truth so I would hear it and pay attention and take action. That too was compassion.

]]> By: Joe http://www.blisstree.com/articles/meeting-makers-make-it-16/comment-page-1/#comment-1890 Joe Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:59:16 +0000 http://www.adozensteps.com/meeting-makers-make-it/#comment-1890 People like catchy phrases, it makes us sound clever. Try this: It is the steps we take NOTthe meetings we make, which guarantee a spiritual experience sufficient to weather the storms which are certain to come! I for one agree with nearly all that Mike had to say including his recognition that those ideas should have been transmittedin a more loving way. Anger is fear driven Mark, many of us who work with countless others spend inordinate amounts of time trying to help our dying brothers and sisters see that they have been misinformed in the rooms of alcoholics anonymous. Try to remember sir that patience does not mean passive. I must try to stop people from harming others, I must take action to intercede in the misinformation while I show compassion for both parties. Both of these people are God's children and both must be shown compassion. The one doing the harm must be stopped in order that they do no more harm to themselves. A delicate balance which requires God's vision. People like catchy phrases, it makes us sound clever. Try this:
It is the steps we take NOTthe meetings we make, which guarantee a spiritual experience sufficient to weather the storms which are certain to come!

I for one agree with nearly all that Mike had to say including his recognition that those ideas should have been transmittedin a more loving way. Anger is fear driven Mark, many of us who work with countless others spend inordinate amounts of time trying to help our dying brothers and sisters see that they have been misinformed in the rooms of alcoholics anonymous. Try to remember sir that patience does not mean passive. I must try to stop people from harming others, I must take action to intercede in the misinformation while I show compassion for both parties. Both of these people are God’s children and both must be shown compassion. The one doing the harm must be stopped in order that they do no more harm to themselves. A delicate balance which requires God’s vision.

]]> By: Mark http://www.blisstree.com/articles/meeting-makers-make-it-16/comment-page-1/#comment-1936 Mark Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:12:18 +0000 http://www.adozensteps.com/meeting-makers-make-it/#comment-1936 I'm glad you ramble... thanks. I’m glad you ramble… thanks.

]]> By: Frank C. http://www.blisstree.com/articles/meeting-makers-make-it-16/comment-page-1/#comment-1919 Frank C. Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:57:01 +0000 http://www.adozensteps.com/meeting-makers-make-it/#comment-1919 I prefer all 3 areas Recovery (In the program of AA as expressed in first 164 pages of BigBook), Unity (in the fellowship of AA), and Service. When in all 3 areas, I seem to be of better service to God and my fellow man. Meeting makers make it only when combined with working the 12 steps, then the daily disciplines once having a Spiritual Awakening. You can lose a Spiritual Awakening. Headed for trouble if rest on laurels. For the newcomer, or the person that has had a Spiritual Awakening, if you JUST go to meetings, and don't continue to grow... and you will grow in understanding and effectiveness if you are discplined... .... you can only coast DOWNHILL.... I coasted for many years, and got sicker and sicker and sicker.... only going to a "comfortable" discussion meeting that fit for ME... now a new Awakening.... and none of the middle-of-road water-downed bullshale that just kills the real alky. i ramble... I prefer all 3 areas Recovery (In the program of AA as expressed in first 164 pages of BigBook), Unity (in the fellowship of AA), and Service.

When in all 3 areas, I seem to be of better service to God and my fellow man.

Meeting makers make it only when combined with working the 12 steps, then the daily disciplines once having a Spiritual Awakening.

You can lose a Spiritual Awakening. Headed for trouble if rest on laurels.

For the newcomer, or the person that has had a Spiritual Awakening, if you JUST go to meetings, and don’t continue to grow… and you will grow in understanding and effectiveness if you are discplined… …. you can only coast DOWNHILL….

I coasted for many years, and got sicker and sicker and sicker…. only going to a “comfortable” discussion meeting that fit for ME… now a new Awakening…. and none of the middle-of-road water-downed bullshale that just kills the real alky.

i ramble…

]]> By: Brian http://www.blisstree.com/articles/meeting-makers-make-it-16/comment-page-1/#comment-1900 Brian Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:56:36 +0000 http://www.adozensteps.com/meeting-makers-make-it/#comment-1900 This phrase is thrown around where I attend AA. I think it gives a wrong impression. I know one thing that holds true for " meeting makers ". They make a whole lot of AA meetings. After that, your guess is as good as mine. This phrase is thrown around where I attend AA. I think it gives a wrong impression. I know one thing that holds true for ” meeting makers “. They make a whole lot of AA meetings. After that, your guess is as good as mine.

]]> By: Oliver G http://www.blisstree.com/articles/meeting-makers-make-it-16/comment-page-1/#comment-1765 Oliver G Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:33:51 +0000 http://www.adozensteps.com/meeting-makers-make-it/#comment-1765 It's good to see the program in action. :-) It’s good to see the program in action. :-)

]]> By: Mark http://www.blisstree.com/articles/meeting-makers-make-it-16/comment-page-1/#comment-1789 Mark Sat, 19 Apr 2008 04:05:30 +0000 http://www.adozensteps.com/meeting-makers-make-it/#comment-1789 Your apology is certainly accepted and very much appreciated... I'm a firm believer that these types of things happen for a positive reason (I'd imagine you believe the same way) so the fact is that the conversation has been continued and added to in a positive way so, Thank you! :) Your apology is certainly accepted and very much appreciated…

I’m a firm believer that these types of things happen for a positive reason (I’d imagine you believe the same way) so the fact is that the conversation has been continued and added to in a positive way so,

Thank you! :)

]]> By: mike http://www.blisstree.com/articles/meeting-makers-make-it-16/comment-page-1/#comment-1760 mike Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:09:29 +0000 http://www.adozensteps.com/meeting-makers-make-it/#comment-1760 ps. mark, i was referring to the comments, not the original message. ps.

mark,

i was referring to the comments, not the original message.

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