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		<title>By: Adam Race, Alex Barton, Nate Tseglin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Race, Alex Barton, Nate Tseglin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 22:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nate Tseglin, who was removed from his parents&#8217; home and institutionalized; some more details here and at the website, Get Nate [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/nate-tseglin-removed-from-his-home-and-institutionalized-why/comment-page-1/#comment-557152</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the request of the Tseglin Family, the Autistic Self Advocacy Network sent the following letter yesterday for use in a court hearing to determine the future of Nate Tseglin. If you are as of yet unfamiliar with Nate&#039;s case, please visit 

http://www.getnatehome.com/faq.html 

for details. Please feel free to distribute.

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To Whom It May Concern:

The Autistic Self Advocacy Network (ASAN) is an international organization of adults and youth on the autism spectrum, including Asperger&#039;s Syndrome, working to promote the interests of the autistic self-advocate community through public policy and social change advocacy. We are writing as friends of the court to express our concern about the treatment of Nate Tseglin, a young adult with a diagnosis of Asperger&#039;s Syndrome who has been taken away from his family and placed in an institution under heavy psychotropic medication.

The right of individuals with disabilities to live in the community has been well established by the United States Supreme Court under the landmark Olmstead v. L.C. decision. The ruling requires states to shift funding from institutional placements to community living supports. Given the clear evidence that institutional settings and the indiscriminate use of psychotropic medication negatively impact the quality of life of autistic adults and youth, we are concerned by Nate&#039;s continued placement under restraint in a residential facility where he is isolated from his family, his community, and any meaningful educational or social opportunities. The overwhelming consensus of the scientific community indicates that such a placement is inappropriate, unnecessary, and counterproductive.

Scientific studies have not found that autistic persons are more likely to commit violent acts or violent crimes than non-autistic persons despite some media sensationalism of isolated cases of violence (Murrie, Warren, Kristiannsson, &amp; Dietz, 2002; Barry-Walsh &amp; Mullen, 2004). Autistic persons are, however, more likely to experience depression, anxiety, and low self-esteem, for which cognitive-behavior therapy (CBT) and one-on-one talk counseling are the recommended interventions (Stewart, Barnard, Pearson, Hasan, &amp; O&#039;Brien, 2006; Sofronoff, Attwood, &amp; Hinton, 2005). Autistic persons also require positive support systems, frequent encouragement and praise, and living and learning environments that are compatible with their cognitive strengths, challenges, and preferences in order to achieve success in their life pursuits and gain a high quality of life (Renty &amp; Roeyers, 2006; Plimley, 2007). Psychotropic medications should always be used with extreme caution with autistic persons as typically these medications are not specifically tested on this population in clinical studies, and psychotropic medications may cause substantial harm if used in an indiscriminate fashion.

Nate&#039;s current placement does not meet his needs and is likely to result in long-term physical and emotional damage. We urge the Court to recommend that Nate be removed from the Fairview Developmental Center and returned to the community.

Regards,

Ari Ne&#039;eman
The Autistic Self Advocacy Network,
President
1101 15th Street, NW Suite 1212
Washington, DC 20005
aneeman@autisticadvocacy.org
(732) 763-5530



Scott Michael Robertson
The Autistic Self Advocacy Network,
Vice President
srobertson@autisticadvocacy.org
(973) 464-6315

 

References:

Barry-Walsh, J. B., &amp; Mullen, P. E. (2004). Forensic Aspects of Asperger&#039;s Syndrome. The Journal of Forensic Psychiatry &amp; Psychology, 15(1), 96-107.Murrie, D. C.,

Warren, J. I., Kristiannsson, M., &amp; Dietz, P. E. (2002). Asperger&#039;s Syndrome in Forensic Settings. International Journal of Forensic Mental Health, 1(1), 59-70.

Plimley, L. A. (2007). A Review Of Quality Of Life Issues And People With Autism Spectrum Disorders. British Journal of Learning Disabilities, 35(4), 205-213.

Renty, J. O., &amp; Roeyers, H. (2006). Quality of life in high-functioning adults with autism spectrum disorder: The predictive Value of Disability And Support Characteristics. Autism, 10(5), 511-524.

Sofronoff, K., Attwood, T., &amp; Hinton, S. (2005) A randomised controlled trial of a CBT intervention for anxiety in children with Asperger syndrome, Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 46 (11) , 1152–1160

Stewart, M. E., Barnard, L., Pearson, J., Hasan R., &amp; O&#039;Brien, G. (2006) Presentation of depression in autism and Asperger syndrome: A review, Autism, 10 (1), 103-116</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the request of the Tseglin Family, the Autistic Self Advocacy Network sent the following letter yesterday for use in a court hearing to determine the future of Nate Tseglin. If you are as of yet unfamiliar with Nate&#8217;s case, please visit </p>
<p><a href="http://www.getnatehome.com/faq.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.getnatehome.com/faq.html</a> </p>
<p>for details. Please feel free to distribute.</p>
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<p>To Whom It May Concern:</p>
<p>The Autistic Self Advocacy Network (ASAN) is an international organization of adults and youth on the autism spectrum, including Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome, working to promote the interests of the autistic self-advocate community through public policy and social change advocacy. We are writing as friends of the court to express our concern about the treatment of Nate Tseglin, a young adult with a diagnosis of Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome who has been taken away from his family and placed in an institution under heavy psychotropic medication.</p>
<p>The right of individuals with disabilities to live in the community has been well established by the United States Supreme Court under the landmark Olmstead v. L.C. decision. The ruling requires states to shift funding from institutional placements to community living supports. Given the clear evidence that institutional settings and the indiscriminate use of psychotropic medication negatively impact the quality of life of autistic adults and youth, we are concerned by Nate&#8217;s continued placement under restraint in a residential facility where he is isolated from his family, his community, and any meaningful educational or social opportunities. The overwhelming consensus of the scientific community indicates that such a placement is inappropriate, unnecessary, and counterproductive.</p>
<p>Scientific studies have not found that autistic persons are more likely to commit violent acts or violent crimes than non-autistic persons despite some media sensationalism of isolated cases of violence (Murrie, Warren, Kristiannsson, &#038; Dietz, 2002; Barry-Walsh &#038; Mullen, 2004). Autistic persons are, however, more likely to experience depression, anxiety, and low self-esteem, for which cognitive-behavior therapy (CBT) and one-on-one talk counseling are the recommended interventions (Stewart, Barnard, Pearson, Hasan, &#038; O&#8217;Brien, 2006; Sofronoff, Attwood, &#038; Hinton, 2005). Autistic persons also require positive support systems, frequent encouragement and praise, and living and learning environments that are compatible with their cognitive strengths, challenges, and preferences in order to achieve success in their life pursuits and gain a high quality of life (Renty &#038; Roeyers, 2006; Plimley, 2007). Psychotropic medications should always be used with extreme caution with autistic persons as typically these medications are not specifically tested on this population in clinical studies, and psychotropic medications may cause substantial harm if used in an indiscriminate fashion.</p>
<p>Nate&#8217;s current placement does not meet his needs and is likely to result in long-term physical and emotional damage. We urge the Court to recommend that Nate be removed from the Fairview Developmental Center and returned to the community.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Ari Ne&#8217;eman<br />
The Autistic Self Advocacy Network,<br />
President<br />
1101 15th Street, NW Suite 1212<br />
Washington, DC 20005<br />
<a href="mailto:aneeman@autisticadvocacy.org">aneeman@autisticadvocacy.org</a><br />
(732) 763-5530</p>
<p>Scott Michael Robertson<br />
The Autistic Self Advocacy Network,<br />
Vice President<br />
<a href="mailto:srobertson@autisticadvocacy.org">srobertson@autisticadvocacy.org</a><br />
(973) 464-6315</p>
<p>References:</p>
<p>Barry-Walsh, J. B., &#038; Mullen, P. E. (2004). Forensic Aspects of Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome. The Journal of Forensic Psychiatry &#038; Psychology, 15(1), 96-107.Murrie, D. C.,</p>
<p>Warren, J. I., Kristiannsson, M., &#038; Dietz, P. E. (2002). Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome in Forensic Settings. International Journal of Forensic Mental Health, 1(1), 59-70.</p>
<p>Plimley, L. A. (2007). A Review Of Quality Of Life Issues And People With Autism Spectrum Disorders. British Journal of Learning Disabilities, 35(4), 205-213.</p>
<p>Renty, J. O., &#038; Roeyers, H. (2006). Quality of life in high-functioning adults with autism spectrum disorder: The predictive Value of Disability And Support Characteristics. Autism, 10(5), 511-524.</p>
<p>Sofronoff, K., Attwood, T., &#038; Hinton, S. (2005) A randomised controlled trial of a CBT intervention for anxiety in children with Asperger syndrome, Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 46 (11) , 1152–1160</p>
<p>Stewart, M. E., Barnard, L., Pearson, J., Hasan R., &#038; O&#8217;Brien, G. (2006) Presentation of depression in autism and Asperger syndrome: A review, Autism, 10 (1), 103-116</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/nate-tseglin-removed-from-his-home-and-institutionalized-why/comment-page-1/#comment-554726</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking and not finding much except for older reports. Will keep at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking and not finding much except for older reports. Will keep at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy G.</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/nate-tseglin-removed-from-his-home-and-institutionalized-why/comment-page-1/#comment-544806</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know what has since happened to Nate?  The Web site where you&#039;re supposed to find updates has been disabled.  Is Nick dead, or else comatose and brain-dead?  Did the staff kill him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know what has since happened to Nate?  The Web site where you&#8217;re supposed to find updates has been disabled.  Is Nick dead, or else comatose and brain-dead?  Did the staff kill him?</p>
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		<title>By: erin</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/nate-tseglin-removed-from-his-home-and-institutionalized-why/comment-page-1/#comment-541236</link>
		<dc:creator>erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in shock this morning after reading of this. This sounds like my son in a lot of ways! He has Aspergers and major Sensory Processing Disorder. He has been put on every drug possible since he was 5.  He would have meltdowns (and have to be restrained, which would make him feel better).

I can say happily that he is now 10, and doing 95% better with behaviors since he is off of ALL meds (none helped). Except he takes something to help him sleep at night. You see, physical activity, OT, PT, and sleeping at night have done an amazing amount of good! I could not be happier and more proud of my son who has been horribly misunderstood in the public realm, treated as defiant or a behavior problem. 

This situation just reflects a very disheartening outlook on the future of so many kids like ours if things don&#039;t change on a larger scale soon. Many people still have no idea how much of the population we are talking about and how it will affect our/their education and medical systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in shock this morning after reading of this. This sounds like my son in a lot of ways! He has Aspergers and major Sensory Processing Disorder. He has been put on every drug possible since he was 5.  He would have meltdowns (and have to be restrained, which would make him feel better).</p>
<p>I can say happily that he is now 10, and doing 95% better with behaviors since he is off of ALL meds (none helped). Except he takes something to help him sleep at night. You see, physical activity, OT, PT, and sleeping at night have done an amazing amount of good! I could not be happier and more proud of my son who has been horribly misunderstood in the public realm, treated as defiant or a behavior problem. </p>
<p>This situation just reflects a very disheartening outlook on the future of so many kids like ours if things don&#8217;t change on a larger scale soon. Many people still have no idea how much of the population we are talking about and how it will affect our/their education and medical systems.</p>
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		<title>By: OmegaWolf747</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/nate-tseglin-removed-from-his-home-and-institutionalized-why/comment-page-1/#comment-550466</link>
		<dc:creator>OmegaWolf747</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These bureaucrats need to be locked up and drugged against their will. There&#039;s a special place in Hell for people like these so called &quot;child protectors&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These bureaucrats need to be locked up and drugged against their will. There&#8217;s a special place in Hell for people like these so called &#8220;child protectors&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/nate-tseglin-removed-from-his-home-and-institutionalized-why/comment-page-1/#comment-544725</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Yanick Fulgeira,

I hope things have become much better for your daughter---we&#039;ve been through some similar situations here in New Jersey about our son who has a history of SIBs; there would be disputes between us and the school district about bruises. Not a good situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Yanick Fulgeira,</p>
<p>I hope things have become much better for your daughter&#8212;we&#8217;ve been through some similar situations here in New Jersey about our son who has a history of SIBs; there would be disputes between us and the school district about bruises. Not a good situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Yanick Fulgueira</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/nate-tseglin-removed-from-his-home-and-institutionalized-why/comment-page-1/#comment-550094</link>
		<dc:creator>Yanick Fulgueira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate Tseglin story brought tears to my eyes when I remembered how HRS  destroyed my family, our reputation, our ability to earn money, our first daugther&#039;s life, and the eternal pain in our heart.  My daughter who has Asperger Syndrome is now 23 and thank God out of the public school system.  We were constantly being harrassed by the HRS, the public school system and the police when she would show up bruised from self-injury, until one day the HRS asked the school to stop referring her to them since there was no evidence that we were abusing her!  Naturally, she would also end up in the hospital where she would be over-medicated with strong psychotropic drugs. These drugs have the same side effects as street drugs as they SHRINK THE BRAIN and zap your child&#039;s  &quot;intelligence&quot; among other side effects as heart palpitations, anxiety, OCD, tic, etc.  Several other parents speak of the same results.  OUR GOVT, SCHOOL SYSTEM, POLICE need to know more about AUTISM. These kids have PHYSICAL problems, whether they are caused by mytochondrial dysfunction, mold (candidiasis), metal toxicity, etc.  Tests should be administered to rule out the probability of any somatic causes and alternative medical intervention should be allowed. Psychotropic meds should be the last resort and still should be approved by parent and patient since they cause so much harm..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate Tseglin story brought tears to my eyes when I remembered how HRS  destroyed my family, our reputation, our ability to earn money, our first daugther&#8217;s life, and the eternal pain in our heart.  My daughter who has Asperger Syndrome is now 23 and thank God out of the public school system.  We were constantly being harrassed by the HRS, the public school system and the police when she would show up bruised from self-injury, until one day the HRS asked the school to stop referring her to them since there was no evidence that we were abusing her!  Naturally, she would also end up in the hospital where she would be over-medicated with strong psychotropic drugs. These drugs have the same side effects as street drugs as they SHRINK THE BRAIN and zap your child&#8217;s  &#8220;intelligence&#8221; among other side effects as heart palpitations, anxiety, OCD, tic, etc.  Several other parents speak of the same results.  OUR GOVT, SCHOOL SYSTEM, POLICE need to know more about AUTISM. These kids have PHYSICAL problems, whether they are caused by mytochondrial dysfunction, mold (candidiasis), metal toxicity, etc.  Tests should be administered to rule out the probability of any somatic causes and alternative medical intervention should be allowed. Psychotropic meds should be the last resort and still should be approved by parent and patient since they cause so much harm..</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Gillon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Gillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having AS myself, I&#039;m disguisted. However, from that Yahoo group provided on getnatehome.com, I can tell that all is steering away from the coffin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having AS myself, I&#8217;m disguisted. However, from that Yahoo group provided on getnatehome.com, I can tell that all is steering away from the coffin.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanie</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/nate-tseglin-removed-from-his-home-and-institutionalized-why/comment-page-1/#comment-554272</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Kristina,
Thank you for your thoughts and bringing some attention to the nightmare of a situation for Nate Tseglin and his parents. Anyone is welcome to visit our site, www.getnatehome.com, for more details, and join our advocacy Group from this site if you would like more ideas on helping Nate and his family.
Thanks again Kristina!!
Jeanie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Kristina,<br />
Thank you for your thoughts and bringing some attention to the nightmare of a situation for Nate Tseglin and his parents. Anyone is welcome to visit our site, <a href="http://www.getnatehome.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.getnatehome.com</a>, for more details, and join our advocacy Group from this site if you would like more ideas on helping Nate and his family.<br />
Thanks again Kristina!!<br />
Jeanie</p>
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