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	<title>Comments on: New Findings on Genetic Link Between Autism and Mitochondrial Disease</title>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/new-findings-on-genetic-link-between-autism-and-mitochondrial-disease/comment-page-1/#comment-559211</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@amy,
Hi----have you seen this report from a June 29th panel discussion about Mitochondrial Disease and Autism, following the United Mitochondrial Disease Foundation’s (UMDF) meeting?

There is a summary &lt;a href=&quot;http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=1451&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;:

http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=1451

and the full report is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ninds.nih.gov/news_and_events/proceedings/20090629_mitochondrial.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;:

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/news_and_events/proceedings/20090629_mitochondrial.htm

I&#039;m still working my way through it, but this stood out about vaccines:

&lt;blockquote&gt;To reduce the risk presented by acquired infections, the workshop panelists strongly encourage vaccinations in the hundreds of children they treat for mitochondrial disease. Among thousands of patients they had collectively seen, very few had deteriorated following vaccination, and in those few cases, it is difficult to determine that other stressors besides the vaccine did not play a role in the neurologic deterioration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hope this is helpful and I write post more-----</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@amy,<br />
Hi&#8212;-have you seen this report from a June 29th panel discussion about Mitochondrial Disease and Autism, following the United Mitochondrial Disease Foundation’s (UMDF) meeting?</p>
<p>There is a summary <a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=1451">here</a>:</p>
<p><a href="http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=1451" rel="nofollow">http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=1451</a></p>
<p>and the full report is <a href="http://www.ninds.nih.gov/news_and_events/proceedings/20090629_mitochondrial.htm">here</a>:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ninds.nih.gov/news_and_events/proceedings/20090629_mitochondrial.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ninds.nih.gov/news_and_events/proceedings/20090629_mitochondrial.htm</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m still working my way through it, but this stood out about vaccines:</p>
<blockquote><p>To reduce the risk presented by acquired infections, the workshop panelists strongly encourage vaccinations in the hundreds of children they treat for mitochondrial disease. Among thousands of patients they had collectively seen, very few had deteriorated following vaccination, and in those few cases, it is difficult to determine that other stressors besides the vaccine did not play a role in the neurologic deterioration.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hope this is helpful and I write post more&#8212;&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 6 month old son whose next appointment with the pediatrician includes his 6 month immunizations (he&#039;s already received the regularly scheduled ones at birth and 2 months).  I am concerned about being a maternal carrier for mitochondrial disorder - my oldest brother died at age 15 (in 1978), after fighting an undiagnosed illness resulting in loss of motor control, partial deafness, poor growth, etc.  Discussions with a genetic counselor indicated that he likely had a mitochondrial disorder.  If vaccines can &quot;aggravate&quot; a genetic disposition, I am concerned about the increased vulnerability my son could have to his next round of vaccines.  What are some suggestions/solutions/options that anyone can recommend?  I&#039;m not thinking of avoiding vaccines, but am considering spreading them out.  Any good recommendations on how many, how far apart?  What other do&#039;s/don&#039;ts/suggestions could be offered for children who might be at greater risk for adverse affects of vaccines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 6 month old son whose next appointment with the pediatrician includes his 6 month immunizations (he&#8217;s already received the regularly scheduled ones at birth and 2 months).  I am concerned about being a maternal carrier for mitochondrial disorder &#8211; my oldest brother died at age 15 (in 1978), after fighting an undiagnosed illness resulting in loss of motor control, partial deafness, poor growth, etc.  Discussions with a genetic counselor indicated that he likely had a mitochondrial disorder.  If vaccines can &#8220;aggravate&#8221; a genetic disposition, I am concerned about the increased vulnerability my son could have to his next round of vaccines.  What are some suggestions/solutions/options that anyone can recommend?  I&#8217;m not thinking of avoiding vaccines, but am considering spreading them out.  Any good recommendations on how many, how far apart?  What other do&#8217;s/don&#8217;ts/suggestions could be offered for children who might be at greater risk for adverse affects of vaccines?</p>
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		<title>By: Experts to Hold Meeting on Mitochondrial Disorders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Experts to Hold Meeting on Mitochondrial Disorders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jon Poling has asked. Researchers at Medical Neurogenetics have said they have found evidence of a genetic link and mitochondrial disease. Anecdotally, I&#8217;ve heard parents of autistic children seeking out tests for mitochondrial [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jon Poling has asked. Researchers at Medical Neurogenetics have said they have found evidence of a genetic link and mitochondrial disease. Anecdotally, I&#8217;ve heard parents of autistic children seeking out tests for mitochondrial [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Case of Hannah Poling Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Case of Hannah Poling Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] geneticist, and mitochondrial disease expert, agrees with this conclusion: &#8230;. In a study of 40 patients with autism—including Poling, he found that two thirds had muscle weakness. If [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] geneticist, and mitochondrial disease expert, agrees with this conclusion: &#8230;. In a study of 40 patients with autism—including Poling, he found that two thirds had muscle weakness. If [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Regan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The clinic somewhat specializes in diagnosis and research in mitochondrial disorders.
It does not state what the overall percentage of children found, even limiting it to this clinic, who do not have autism but do have mitochondrial disease or those who do not have autism nor mitochondrial disease. 

It also seems to state that (100%-65%) 35% of the autistic children evaluated for mitochondrial disease at that clinic did not have such. &quot;Disease&quot; did not seem to subtype abnormality, dysfunction or disorder. 

Without further elaboration it&#039;s a little like a cardiologist saying that a majority of the patients he sees have heart problems.

&quot;Dr. Shoffner noted that the clinic’s findings need to be confirmed by other studies.&quot;

Absolutely. A less invasive and expensive test would be a good thing, as the relevant genetics, biochemistry and phenotype, not only in relation to autism but in general.
I just think the story implies, perhaps unintentionally, a majority that may or may not be there relative to the general or even autistic population.
It will be interesting to see what the findings are as more work is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The clinic somewhat specializes in diagnosis and research in mitochondrial disorders.<br />
It does not state what the overall percentage of children found, even limiting it to this clinic, who do not have autism but do have mitochondrial disease or those who do not have autism nor mitochondrial disease. </p>
<p>It also seems to state that (100%-65%) 35% of the autistic children evaluated for mitochondrial disease at that clinic did not have such. &#8220;Disease&#8221; did not seem to subtype abnormality, dysfunction or disorder. </p>
<p>Without further elaboration it&#8217;s a little like a cardiologist saying that a majority of the patients he sees have heart problems.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dr. Shoffner noted that the clinic’s findings need to be confirmed by other studies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely. A less invasive and expensive test would be a good thing, as the relevant genetics, biochemistry and phenotype, not only in relation to autism but in general.<br />
I just think the story implies, perhaps unintentionally, a majority that may or may not be there relative to the general or even autistic population.<br />
It will be interesting to see what the findings are as more work is done.</p>
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		<title>By: Last Week&#8217;s Top Posts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Last Week&#8217;s Top Posts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New Findings on Genetic Link Between Autism and Mitochondrial Disease Researchers at Medical Neurogenetics have found that there may be a genetic link between autism and mitochondrial disease, “a muscle-weakening disorder.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] New Findings on Genetic Link Between Autism and Mitochondrial Disease Researchers at Medical Neurogenetics have found that there may be a genetic link between autism and mitochondrial disease, “a muscle-weakening disorder.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: daedalus2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>daedalus2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitochondria turn-over every few months.  The only way that a mitochondrial disorder can persist longer than a few months is if there are changes to the regulation of mitochondrial turn-over that persist longer than that.  There are no understood mechanisms by which that happens.  I think that is the essence of what is happening in CFS and some of the neurodegenerative diseases.  It might be happening in autism.  It might be happening in Retts.  A plausible mechanism would be via low NO.  NO is what regulates mitochondria biogenesis, so low NO is going to lead to mitochondrial depletion which then might be perpetuated by ROS production by mitochondria.  

Virtually every mitochondria in a person is completely different than every mitochondria that existed a year earlier.  That is, the old mitochondria have been replaced with new ones.

The only way a genetic mitochondrial defect can occur is due to damage to DNA either in the nucleus (genomic DNA), or in mitochondria (mtDNA).  In both cases that DNA is transferred only from existing cells to daughter cells, that is to cells that result from the division of that existing cell.

If there were an &quot;environmental&quot; cause to DNA damage, that damage would be different in each strand of DNA that was damaged.  No two cells would have the same genomic DNA damage, no two mitochondria would have the same mtDNA damage.

If multiple cells, or multiple mitochondria are shown to have the same DNA damage, that damage could only have occurred in the single cell and mitochondria that those multiple cells are descended from.  

If every cell in a person has the same DNA damage, that damage could &lt;b&gt;only&lt;/b&gt; have occurred when that individual was a single cell, or earlier (i.e. DNA damage in the gametes that formed the single cell).  

Widespread identical mtDNA damage in multiple cells is extremely strong evidence (99.99999%+)that there is no involvement of any environmental effect past the first few days of gestation in that mtDNA damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitochondria turn-over every few months.  The only way that a mitochondrial disorder can persist longer than a few months is if there are changes to the regulation of mitochondrial turn-over that persist longer than that.  There are no understood mechanisms by which that happens.  I think that is the essence of what is happening in CFS and some of the neurodegenerative diseases.  It might be happening in autism.  It might be happening in Retts.  A plausible mechanism would be via low NO.  NO is what regulates mitochondria biogenesis, so low NO is going to lead to mitochondrial depletion which then might be perpetuated by ROS production by mitochondria.  </p>
<p>Virtually every mitochondria in a person is completely different than every mitochondria that existed a year earlier.  That is, the old mitochondria have been replaced with new ones.</p>
<p>The only way a genetic mitochondrial defect can occur is due to damage to DNA either in the nucleus (genomic DNA), or in mitochondria (mtDNA).  In both cases that DNA is transferred only from existing cells to daughter cells, that is to cells that result from the division of that existing cell.</p>
<p>If there were an &#8220;environmental&#8221; cause to DNA damage, that damage would be different in each strand of DNA that was damaged.  No two cells would have the same genomic DNA damage, no two mitochondria would have the same mtDNA damage.</p>
<p>If multiple cells, or multiple mitochondria are shown to have the same DNA damage, that damage could only have occurred in the single cell and mitochondria that those multiple cells are descended from.  </p>
<p>If every cell in a person has the same DNA damage, that damage could <b>only</b> have occurred when that individual was a single cell, or earlier (i.e. DNA damage in the gametes that formed the single cell).  </p>
<p>Widespread identical mtDNA damage in multiple cells is extremely strong evidence (99.99999%+)that there is no involvement of any environmental effect past the first few days of gestation in that mtDNA damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline Rodgers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline Rodgers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To understand why children have non-inherited mitochondrial defects, it is worth digging up a 30-year-old study that found ultrasound can irreversibly damage mitochondria (STEPHENS, R.H., TORBIT, C.A., GROTH, D.G., TAENZER, J.C., &amp; EDMONDS, P.D. (1978) Mitochondrial changes resulting from ultrasound irradiation. In: White, D. &amp; Lyons, E.A. ed.Ultrasound in medicine, New York, Plenum Press, Vol. 4, pp.591-594). Could prenatal ultrasound be causing autism-related mitochondrial disorders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To understand why children have non-inherited mitochondrial defects, it is worth digging up a 30-year-old study that found ultrasound can irreversibly damage mitochondria (STEPHENS, R.H., TORBIT, C.A., GROTH, D.G., TAENZER, J.C., &amp; EDMONDS, P.D. (1978) Mitochondrial changes resulting from ultrasound irradiation. In: White, D. &amp; Lyons, E.A. ed.Ultrasound in medicine, New York, Plenum Press, Vol. 4, pp.591-594). Could prenatal ultrasound be causing autism-related mitochondrial disorders?</p>
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		<title>By: laurentius-rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurentius-rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another subgroup.

What irks me is when people read more into these genetic studies than is contained within them

As I have been saying Autism is not wholly genetic, but there are various (and not identical) genetic routes toward the predisposing factors which in the right admixtures will build into an autistic neurological typology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another subgroup.</p>
<p>What irks me is when people read more into these genetic studies than is contained within them</p>
<p>As I have been saying Autism is not wholly genetic, but there are various (and not identical) genetic routes toward the predisposing factors which in the right admixtures will build into an autistic neurological typology</p>
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		<title>By: Kassiane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kassiane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adults wont be mentioned on the comedy central thing, it&#039;s for the hate group autism speaks. 

(cynical? me? nope. Realistic)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adults wont be mentioned on the comedy central thing, it&#8217;s for the hate group autism speaks. </p>
<p>(cynical? me? nope. Realistic)</p>
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