Comments on: Of Mirror Neurons, Fever, and Autonomic Storms http://www.blisstree.com/articles/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/ Family, Health, Home and Lifestyles Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:21:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: andy shelton http://www.blisstree.com/articles/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/comment-page-1/#comment-565765 andy shelton Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:21:54 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/#comment-565765 my son has been diagnosed with autonomic storms . he is 15 years old and has cerebal palsey . i would like to know of a neuroligest that knows of this . it seems when he has b.m is when he gets really bad and when he doesnt have a b.m he is relaxed we are trying chlonidine right now but doesnt seem to be working hopefully are neurologist is on the right track my son needs all the help he can get he has a baclofyn pump and he has a shunt for hydrocefolis if anyone has a idea what to do please let me know we are kind of desperate my son has been diagnosed with autonomic storms . he is 15 years old and has cerebal palsey . i would like to know of a neuroligest that knows of this . it seems when he has b.m is when he gets really bad and when he doesnt have a b.m he is relaxed we are trying chlonidine right now but doesnt seem to be working hopefully are neurologist is on the right track my son needs all the help he can get he has a baclofyn pump and he has a shunt for hydrocefolis if anyone has a idea what to do please let me know we are kind of desperate

]]> By: ludmila vucolova http://www.blisstree.com/articles/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/comment-page-1/#comment-555070 ludmila vucolova Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:57:46 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/#comment-555070 We are independent researchers studying mirror neurons and have recently come to conclusion that the results of the experiments conducted by Iacoboni et al (2005) do not support the notion that mirror neurons code intention. If you are interested, we would like send you work entitled "The Link Between Mirror Neurons and Intention (Iacoboni et al 2005) Is Subject To Further Investigation." Abstract attached. Sincerely, Ludmila Vucolova, USA vucolova@gmail.com Peter Boroditch, Russia magelan55@mail.ru ABSTRACT This work will analyze the findings of Iacoboni et al., 2005 wherein is stated “the human mirror neuron system does not simply provide an action recognition mechanism, but also constitutes a neural system for coding the intentions of others” and will suggest that the findings are not supported by the results of the experiments. The analysis of Iacoboni's findings demonstrates that the alleged greater activity in mirror neuron areas in the inferior frontal cortex in the Intention cleaning condition did not show sufficient additional activity to support the principal finding. The analysis demonstrates that alleged greater activity in mirror neuron areas in the inferior frontal cortex in the Intention drinking condition is not valid since the comparison between Action, Intention drinking and Intention cleaning conditions was not based on the premises of the hypothetical model (identical grasping actions), thus, leading to an improper reading of the data and interpretation of the findings. The high response in the Intention drinking condition versus Action and Intention cleaning is attributed instead to differences in the types of grasping actions, implemented by Iacoboni and observed by participants. These differences affect the level of mirror neuron response. The high level reported in the Intention drinking is due to the instantaneous recognition of two actions, “grasping” and “bringing to the mouth.” These are found to be two consecutive and adjoining links within the drinking action. The lack of additional response in Intention cleaning is due to the recognition of only the grasping action by viewing the Intention cleaning clip. Consequently, the need to resort to the understanding of intention to account for the high response (in the Intention drinking condition) can be eliminated. We are independent researchers studying mirror neurons and have recently come to conclusion that the results of the experiments conducted by Iacoboni et al (2005) do not support the notion that mirror neurons code intention. If you are interested, we would like send you work entitled “The Link Between Mirror Neurons and Intention (Iacoboni et al 2005) Is Subject To Further Investigation.” Abstract attached.

Sincerely,
Ludmila Vucolova, USA
vucolova@gmail.com
Peter Boroditch, Russia
magelan55@mail.ru

ABSTRACT
This work will analyze the findings of Iacoboni et al., 2005 wherein is stated “the human mirror neuron system does not simply provide an action recognition mechanism, but also constitutes a neural system for coding the intentions of others” and will suggest that the findings are not supported by the results of the experiments.
The analysis of Iacoboni’s findings demonstrates that the alleged greater activity in mirror neuron areas in the inferior frontal cortex in the Intention cleaning condition did not show sufficient additional activity to support the principal finding.
The analysis demonstrates that alleged greater activity in mirror neuron areas in the inferior frontal cortex in the Intention drinking condition is not valid since the comparison between Action, Intention drinking and Intention cleaning conditions was not based on the premises of the hypothetical model (identical grasping actions), thus, leading to an improper reading of the data and interpretation of the findings.
The high response in the Intention drinking condition versus Action and Intention cleaning is attributed instead to differences in the types of grasping actions, implemented by Iacoboni and observed by participants. These differences affect the level of mirror neuron response. The high level reported in the Intention drinking is due to the instantaneous recognition of two actions, “grasping” and “bringing to the mouth.” These are found to be two consecutive and adjoining links within the drinking action. The lack of additional response in Intention cleaning is due to the recognition of only the grasping action by viewing the Intention cleaning clip. Consequently, the need to resort to the understanding of intention to account for the high response (in the Intention drinking condition) can be eliminated.

]]> By: Mirror Neurons, Motor Ability, and Empathy http://www.blisstree.com/articles/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/comment-page-1/#comment-551407 Mirror Neurons, Motor Ability, and Empathy Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:00:22 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/#comment-551407 [...] Mirror neurons are a type of brain cell that seem to be involved in perceiving the intentions—the mental state—of another person. Mirror neurons are activated or “fire” both when we perform an action and also when we see that action being performed by someone else and it’s been hypothesized that there might be a dysfunction of the mirror neuron system in autistic persons. According to a 2006 article in Scientific American: If the mirror neuron system is indeed involved in the interpretation of complex intentions, then a breakdown of this neural circuitry could explain the most striking deficit in people with autism, their lack of social skills. The other cardinal signs of the disorder–absence of empathy, language deficits, poor imitation, and so on–are also the kinds of things you would expect to see if mirror neurons were dysfunctional. [...] [...] Mirror neurons are a type of brain cell that seem to be involved in perceiving the intentions—the mental state—of another person. Mirror neurons are activated or “fire” both when we perform an action and also when we see that action being performed by someone else and it’s been hypothesized that there might be a dysfunction of the mirror neuron system in autistic persons. According to a 2006 article in Scientific American: If the mirror neuron system is indeed involved in the interpretation of complex intentions, then a breakdown of this neural circuitry could explain the most striking deficit in people with autism, their lack of social skills. The other cardinal signs of the disorder–absence of empathy, language deficits, poor imitation, and so on–are also the kinds of things you would expect to see if mirror neurons were dysfunctional. [...]

]]> By: Fever? http://www.blisstree.com/articles/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/comment-page-1/#comment-540728 Fever? Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:28:24 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/#comment-540728 [...] and cognition has occurred at a surprising moment, when Charlie is ill and, more specifically, when he has a fever. Other parents have noted the same to me, anecdotally; the December 2007 volume of Pediatrics [...] [...] and cognition has occurred at a surprising moment, when Charlie is ill and, more specifically, when he has a fever. Other parents have noted the same to me, anecdotally; the December 2007 volume of Pediatrics [...]

]]> By: Research on the Brain and Autism http://www.blisstree.com/articles/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/comment-page-1/#comment-542122 Research on the Brain and Autism Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:12:30 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/#comment-542122 [...] today also reports about mirror neurons, which are a type of brain cell that are said to “fire” both when a person performs an action [...] [...] today also reports about mirror neurons, which are a type of brain cell that are said to “fire” both when a person performs an action [...]

]]> By: Does the brain mirror not just actions, but people and culture too? http://www.blisstree.com/articles/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/comment-page-1/#comment-536695 Does the brain mirror not just actions, but people and culture too? Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:31:44 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/#comment-536695 [...] Mirror neurons are brain cells that are said to “fire” both when a person performs an action and when a person sees someone else performing the same action. They are thought to be connected to the ability to have empathy—-do you feel pain when you see someone else feel pain? when you see someone drinking a soda, do you feel thirsty; it has been posited that autistic persons’ mirror neurons may be somehow adversely affected, and that “a dysfunction of the mirror neuron system could result in some of the symptoms of autism.” (But see this thoughtful critique on mirror neurons and autism.) [...] [...] Mirror neurons are brain cells that are said to “fire” both when a person performs an action and when a person sees someone else performing the same action. They are thought to be connected to the ability to have empathy—-do you feel pain when you see someone else feel pain? when you see someone drinking a soda, do you feel thirsty; it has been posited that autistic persons’ mirror neurons may be somehow adversely affected, and that “a dysfunction of the mirror neuron system could result in some of the symptoms of autism.” (But see this thoughtful critique on mirror neurons and autism.) [...]

]]> By: daedalus2u http://www.blisstree.com/articles/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/comment-page-1/#comment-534129 daedalus2u Sat, 19 May 2007 14:25:04 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/#comment-534129 This is interesting. One of the physiological changes that accompanies fever is an increase in NO levels through expression of inducible nitric oxide synthase. http://erj.ersjournals.com/cgi/content/full/21/4/594 Interesting that fever sometimes reduces symptoms of ASDs. This is interesting. One of the physiological changes that accompanies fever is an increase in NO levels through expression of inducible nitric oxide synthase.

http://erj.ersjournals.com/cgi/content/full/21/4/594

Interesting that fever sometimes reduces symptoms of ASDs.

]]> By: Autism Vox » The Phi Complex: What is a “social interaction”? http://www.blisstree.com/articles/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/comment-page-1/#comment-534216 Autism Vox » The Phi Complex: What is a “social interaction”? Sat, 19 May 2007 02:42:59 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/#comment-534216 [...] Mirror neurons, which are said to be set off when one person performs some action and also when one sees another person performing the same action, are enhanced or inhibited in the phi complex. Performing continuous finger motions simultaneously in concert with another person is a fairly simple activity; what does the phi complex look like when people are coordinating other actions, such as language in a conversation, or an exchange of a baton in a relay race? [...] [...] Mirror neurons, which are said to be set off when one person performs some action and also when one sees another person performing the same action, are enhanced or inhibited in the phi complex. Performing continuous finger motions simultaneously in concert with another person is a fairly simple activity; what does the phi complex look like when people are coordinating other actions, such as language in a conversation, or an exchange of a baton in a relay race? [...]

]]> By: Autism Vox http://www.blisstree.com/articles/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/comment-page-1/#comment-530083 Autism Vox Wed, 10 Jan 2007 03:47:49 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/#comment-530083 [...] Of Mirror Neurons, Fever, and Autonomic Storms01/09/2007 11:45 pm1 Comment [...] [...] Of Mirror Neurons, Fever, and Autonomic Storms01/09/2007 11:45 pm1 Comment [...]

]]> By: Autism Vox » Bouba/Kiki http://www.blisstree.com/articles/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/comment-page-1/#comment-530086 Autism Vox » Bouba/Kiki Wed, 10 Jan 2007 03:45:34 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/of-mirror-neurons-fever-and-autonomic-storms/#comment-530086 [...] Autistic children tend to perform poorly on the bouba/kiki test, as noted in a November 2006 Scientific American article on mirror neurons and autism by Vilayanur S. Ramachandran, director of the Center for Brain and Cognition at the University of California at San Diego and Lindsay M. Oberman, a graduate student there. [...] [...] Autistic children tend to perform poorly on the bouba/kiki test, as noted in a November 2006 Scientific American article on mirror neurons and autism by Vilayanur S. Ramachandran, director of the Center for Brain and Cognition at the University of California at San Diego and Lindsay M. Oberman, a graduate student there. [...]

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