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		<title>By: Regan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s hard to tell why anyone does this.
(In the 70&#039;s, when I was in HS, the President of the Senior class of our town&#039;s other HS, a big man on campus, climbed up on the roof of the school and started sniping. I don&#039;t think we ever got an explanation of why, esp. since he was taken out by the police. It never made sense, esp. given the person.)

I was watching more TV the other day than is good for me and it struck me that there was a lot of glamorizing of shooting people and just plain violence on the tube and movies than I remember growing up. The media is an easy target to blame, but there seems to be a real glut of poor models for solving problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s hard to tell why anyone does this.<br />
(In the 70&#8217;s, when I was in HS, the President of the Senior class of our town&#8217;s other HS, a big man on campus, climbed up on the roof of the school and started sniping. I don&#8217;t think we ever got an explanation of why, esp. since he was taken out by the police. It never made sense, esp. given the person.)</p>
<p>I was watching more TV the other day than is good for me and it struck me that there was a lot of glamorizing of shooting people and just plain violence on the tube and movies than I remember growing up. The media is an easy target to blame, but there seems to be a real glut of poor models for solving problems.</p>
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		<title>By: trish</title>
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		<dc:creator>trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell, we all have alittle autism in us, we were all bullied in school some time or another.  we didnt shoot our classmates in the 70&#039;s , i sure miss the 70&#039;s!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, we all have alittle autism in us, we were all bullied in school some time or another.  we didnt shoot our classmates in the 70&#8217;s , i sure miss the 70&#8217;s!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cho is a fucking hero. We need more men following in his footsteps.  These fucking cunts are always complaining about equality with men, but no one ever mentions sexual equality in that women can get sex whenever they want and men have to go for years without sex, particularly if they are shy or awkward.  This shit has to change!  Cho was a poor sexually frustrated kid who tried as best as he knew how to get laid, but women would have nothing to do with him. If you dig deep enough through his history, you will find that right before the incident, he was denied sex by an escort. The problem is all these fucking feminists taking over now. All the women want to sleep with the top 5% of the upper echelon of men, leaving the rest alone without sex. Women dont understand that for men sex is a life need third to food and water. Being there myself, I know what lack of sex does to one’s mental state. Of course, you never hear about such things in our feminized society. I just wish Cho had taken out his anger in a sorority house or a victoria secret or something like that. Mabey then america would have been awakened to a much deeper issue in our society. Everyone talks about equality in our society, but no one ever talks about equality in being able to get sex.  Well, it will happen again and with the sexual starvation of men in our society I am surprised it does not happen more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cho is a fucking hero. We need more men following in his footsteps.  These fucking cunts are always complaining about equality with men, but no one ever mentions sexual equality in that women can get sex whenever they want and men have to go for years without sex, particularly if they are shy or awkward.  This shit has to change!  Cho was a poor sexually frustrated kid who tried as best as he knew how to get laid, but women would have nothing to do with him. If you dig deep enough through his history, you will find that right before the incident, he was denied sex by an escort. The problem is all these fucking feminists taking over now. All the women want to sleep with the top 5% of the upper echelon of men, leaving the rest alone without sex. Women dont understand that for men sex is a life need third to food and water. Being there myself, I know what lack of sex does to one’s mental state. Of course, you never hear about such things in our feminized society. I just wish Cho had taken out his anger in a sorority house or a victoria secret or something like that. Mabey then america would have been awakened to a much deeper issue in our society. Everyone talks about equality in our society, but no one ever talks about equality in being able to get sex.  Well, it will happen again and with the sexual starvation of men in our society I am surprised it does not happen more often.</p>
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		<title>By: Seung-Hui Cho&#8217;s Diagnosis: Selective Mutism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seung-Hui Cho&#8217;s Diagnosis: Selective Mutism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that Seung-Hui Cho had autism circulated after last April&#8217;s shooting massacre. On August 20, the Wall Street [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that Seung-Hui Cho had autism circulated after last April&#8217;s shooting massacre. On August 20, the Wall Street [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 04:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I agree on the issue of atypical thinking, the condition is not the same every time, people tend to label what a person&#039;s psychology is, I mean you can go to a psychology website , lookup articles and exercise black and white thinking and think what you choose to think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I agree on the issue of atypical thinking, the condition is not the same every time, people tend to label what a person&#8217;s psychology is, I mean you can go to a psychology website , lookup articles and exercise black and white thinking and think what you choose to think.</p>
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		<title>By: WOLF</title>
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		<dc:creator>WOLF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim I am autistic and have been for 48 years now.  Tim I have no PhD behind my name.  Tim I am not a social worker or in the health professions.  However Tim I know what I am talking about when I say the following.

Tim dude your examination of autism is fatally flawed because it makes one assumption.  Your logic assumes Cho Seung-Hui&#039;s autism experience is Typical.  Anyone who knows autism at all understands that there is no typical presentation of autism.  Each autistic individual is like a light in the night sky different and unique.  Your logic attempts to offer a standardized programmatic understanding of autism when none can ever exist.

I have made a most excellent map of my own autism experience and for me it is likely the most accurate reflection of my life long authism experience on earth.  Tim my autism experience is unique to me no other autistic person will have exactly my presentation and responses to autism and life challenges.

If you are not autistic your ideas merely show what you think autism is like.  If I look at Cho Seung-Hui and share my opinions, my ideas just give you insights on the parts of Cho Seung-Hui &#039;s autism experience I have limited insights and understandings about.  Remember autism is a spectrum disorder as such there are many unique powerful presentations of the autism life experience of which mine and Cho Seung-Hui &#039;s are just two.

If your logic were right Tin we could pick any two planets from the solar system and base all our planetary science on what those two planets have to tell us.  Likewise we could pick any two points of light in the night sky and based on what our studies tell us base all our understanding of cosmology on what those two points of like tell us.  In both cases we would be ill served becausem we would be missing the majority of the science behind what makes the universe tick.

Likewise if we looked at your picture of autism and even added my own we would still be getting only a tiny almost useless slice of the total autism spectrum experience.  Autism is bigger than any one man or any two autistic men.  The autism spectrum life experience is far too vast to fit on all the paper ever made.  My autism experience can offer insights and thats why I share it but, speculation on what made Cho Seung-Hui do what he did is something only he knew.  The only source of why any autistic person does anything is that particular autistic person themselves.

Tim when you dare think ideas and theory you offer explain something vast complex and personal as autism you fool only yourself.  Tim more importantly you do an almost criminal dis-service to all of us autistics and those who care for us who are trying to build bridges of hope and understanding between the autistic and typical human worlds. 

Tim thanks for your well meaning attempt to help but please understand your attempt fell far short of its mark sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim I am autistic and have been for 48 years now.  Tim I have no PhD behind my name.  Tim I am not a social worker or in the health professions.  However Tim I know what I am talking about when I say the following.</p>
<p>Tim dude your examination of autism is fatally flawed because it makes one assumption.  Your logic assumes Cho Seung-Hui&#8217;s autism experience is Typical.  Anyone who knows autism at all understands that there is no typical presentation of autism.  Each autistic individual is like a light in the night sky different and unique.  Your logic attempts to offer a standardized programmatic understanding of autism when none can ever exist.</p>
<p>I have made a most excellent map of my own autism experience and for me it is likely the most accurate reflection of my life long authism experience on earth.  Tim my autism experience is unique to me no other autistic person will have exactly my presentation and responses to autism and life challenges.</p>
<p>If you are not autistic your ideas merely show what you think autism is like.  If I look at Cho Seung-Hui and share my opinions, my ideas just give you insights on the parts of Cho Seung-Hui &#8217;s autism experience I have limited insights and understandings about.  Remember autism is a spectrum disorder as such there are many unique powerful presentations of the autism life experience of which mine and Cho Seung-Hui &#8217;s are just two.</p>
<p>If your logic were right Tin we could pick any two planets from the solar system and base all our planetary science on what those two planets have to tell us.  Likewise we could pick any two points of light in the night sky and based on what our studies tell us base all our understanding of cosmology on what those two points of like tell us.  In both cases we would be ill served becausem we would be missing the majority of the science behind what makes the universe tick.</p>
<p>Likewise if we looked at your picture of autism and even added my own we would still be getting only a tiny almost useless slice of the total autism spectrum experience.  Autism is bigger than any one man or any two autistic men.  The autism spectrum life experience is far too vast to fit on all the paper ever made.  My autism experience can offer insights and thats why I share it but, speculation on what made Cho Seung-Hui do what he did is something only he knew.  The only source of why any autistic person does anything is that particular autistic person themselves.</p>
<p>Tim when you dare think ideas and theory you offer explain something vast complex and personal as autism you fool only yourself.  Tim more importantly you do an almost criminal dis-service to all of us autistics and those who care for us who are trying to build bridges of hope and understanding between the autistic and typical human worlds. </p>
<p>Tim thanks for your well meaning attempt to help but please understand your attempt fell far short of its mark sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, you make some fantastic leaps of logic that absolutely nothing to due with autism - not to mention potentially damaging those of us who are struggling (and somehow making it) out there in society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, you make some fantastic leaps of logic that absolutely nothing to due with autism &#8211; not to mention potentially damaging those of us who are struggling (and somehow making it) out there in society.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I poignantly brought this to the governor’s and DMHMRSAS attention the moment the words “Cho” and “autism” showed up in the media. I pointed to all the warning signs in the article to the Department of Mental Health, Mental Retardation, &amp; Substance Abuse Services and asked “Where were YOU then?” I received a form letter, no answer response from DMHMRSAS and Gov Kaine. I also received NO response to the follow up question “What are you going to do to prevent this from happening again in Virginia?”

So far all I have seen are more gun control laws that don’t address the underlying problem whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I poignantly brought this to the governor’s and DMHMRSAS attention the moment the words “Cho” and “autism” showed up in the media. I pointed to all the warning signs in the article to the Department of Mental Health, Mental Retardation, &amp; Substance Abuse Services and asked “Where were YOU then?” I received a form letter, no answer response from DMHMRSAS and Gov Kaine. I also received NO response to the follow up question “What are you going to do to prevent this from happening again in Virginia?”</p>
<p>So far all I have seen are more gun control laws that don’t address the underlying problem whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suppose that you are autistic and from a non-english country. You get teased because of your voice and accent, you avoid communication because it causes you anxiety, autism debilitates your ability to interact. You go through several years of abuse while bullies realize they can have a field day with your introverted personality, your foreign background, without a  sense of humor and a poorly modulated voice. 

You function horribly in all environments because you have impaired ability to make eye contact,  or receive instructions from others because even  you can’t acknowledge what you have been instructed or you have a poor sense of intuition and cannot comprehend what is said, like when the someone yells out an instruction that requires interpretation, your autistic mind only interprets it in a literal manner. You then get frustrated because you get yelled at you for not doing what&#039;s told. 

Life becomes miserable because you cannot do anything useful because you can&#039;t do what&#039;s asked of you. 

You lose your sense of interaction with your environment. Unlike the introverted man who withdraws himself from the environment, you go even further to the point in which you isolate yourself from the world and rediscover your own one. You become a dreamer and you recreate that dream world inside your own mind. 

While you occasionally need to function in the real world, it is the harsh unforgiving world that doesn&#039;t treat you right, and one that you don’t have much time for. 

Your boundaries and defense system become irrational as a result of that little dream world inside your mind. From your dream world point of view you think you have sound coping mechanisms for dealing with the real world, but really the thought mechanisms are irrational and completely insane.

&quot;Society is failing me, they had better correct this, or they will pay the ultimate price&quot;

These people have different coping mechanisms; They give others the opportunity to correct the problems they are causing, and while these people do get many opportunities and chances to correct their problem, if they don&#039;t do whats required of them, implied, hinted, insinuated or no hint at all, they pay the price. That is the irrational thinking from the Aspergers condition.

I am joined with the belief that Apsergers and Autism were a problem for Cho.  &quot;You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today&quot;, as signs of his irrational thinking. 

There was no middle ground in his thought patterns,  he emphasized a zero tolerance approach in an attempt to extract his demands from the society that was failing him. I feel some of this was relevant to his actions, and to consider the reason he wore sunglasses inside. If it was so that he could avoid eye contact then that act demonstrated a significant characteristic of autism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose that you are autistic and from a non-english country. You get teased because of your voice and accent, you avoid communication because it causes you anxiety, autism debilitates your ability to interact. You go through several years of abuse while bullies realize they can have a field day with your introverted personality, your foreign background, without a  sense of humor and a poorly modulated voice. </p>
<p>You function horribly in all environments because you have impaired ability to make eye contact,  or receive instructions from others because even  you can’t acknowledge what you have been instructed or you have a poor sense of intuition and cannot comprehend what is said, like when the someone yells out an instruction that requires interpretation, your autistic mind only interprets it in a literal manner. You then get frustrated because you get yelled at you for not doing what&#8217;s told. </p>
<p>Life becomes miserable because you cannot do anything useful because you can&#8217;t do what&#8217;s asked of you. </p>
<p>You lose your sense of interaction with your environment. Unlike the introverted man who withdraws himself from the environment, you go even further to the point in which you isolate yourself from the world and rediscover your own one. You become a dreamer and you recreate that dream world inside your own mind. </p>
<p>While you occasionally need to function in the real world, it is the harsh unforgiving world that doesn&#8217;t treat you right, and one that you don’t have much time for. </p>
<p>Your boundaries and defense system become irrational as a result of that little dream world inside your mind. From your dream world point of view you think you have sound coping mechanisms for dealing with the real world, but really the thought mechanisms are irrational and completely insane.</p>
<p>&#8220;Society is failing me, they had better correct this, or they will pay the ultimate price&#8221;</p>
<p>These people have different coping mechanisms; They give others the opportunity to correct the problems they are causing, and while these people do get many opportunities and chances to correct their problem, if they don&#8217;t do whats required of them, implied, hinted, insinuated or no hint at all, they pay the price. That is the irrational thinking from the Aspergers condition.</p>
<p>I am joined with the belief that Apsergers and Autism were a problem for Cho.  &#8220;You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today&#8221;, as signs of his irrational thinking. </p>
<p>There was no middle ground in his thought patterns,  he emphasized a zero tolerance approach in an attempt to extract his demands from the society that was failing him. I feel some of this was relevant to his actions, and to consider the reason he wore sunglasses inside. If it was so that he could avoid eye contact then that act demonstrated a significant characteristic of autism.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 00:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the case of this young man Cho, I was specifically refering to the possibility that he suffered from Asperger&#039;s Syndrome, not just conventional autism.
Clearly this unsociable individual was highly intelligent, albeit ina dysfunctionhal way.

I wonder if he had lived, coild he use this said syndrome as a defense, not insanity, but as a mitigating factor?

DEE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the case of this young man Cho, I was specifically refering to the possibility that he suffered from Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome, not just conventional autism.<br />
Clearly this unsociable individual was highly intelligent, albeit ina dysfunctionhal way.</p>
<p>I wonder if he had lived, coild he use this said syndrome as a defense, not insanity, but as a mitigating factor?</p>
<p>DEE</p>
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