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		<title>By: Autism Vox &#187; Son-Rise Rises Again (2)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Autism Vox &#187; Son-Rise Rises Again (2)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In yesterday&#8217;s Raising Sums for Son-Rise post, I noted that many articles about the Son-Rise program also talk about how an autism family is raising large sums of money to finance the program. Yet another such article appears in today&#8217;s Observer News. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In yesterday&#8217;s Raising Sums for Son-Rise post, I noted that many articles about the Son-Rise program also talk about how an autism family is raising large sums of money to finance the program. Yet another such article appears in today&#8217;s Observer News. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/raising-sums-for-son-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-527160</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much appreciate the rambling----we would like Charlie to do community service and help others, too. I do think it is our small family unit that has &quot;progressed&quot; together, in understanding and much more.

Laurentius-rex, have you images of your paintings online?

Lots of autism education/therapy/treatments do not come cheap, it is true----it would feel very wrong for us to solicit funds for Charlie&#039;s needs; we have been lucky in this regard. I have just read more than a few stories about families using Son-Rise and holding fund-raisers----seems a susupicious connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much appreciate the rambling&#8212;-we would like Charlie to do community service and help others, too. I do think it is our small family unit that has &#8220;progressed&#8221; together, in understanding and much more.</p>
<p>Laurentius-rex, have you images of your paintings online?</p>
<p>Lots of autism education/therapy/treatments do not come cheap, it is true&#8212;-it would feel very wrong for us to solicit funds for Charlie&#8217;s needs; we have been lucky in this regard. I have just read more than a few stories about families using Son-Rise and holding fund-raisers&#8212;-seems a susupicious connection.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 00:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am NOT a fan of Son Rise.  It has ALL the trappings of a scam.  It has even been listed on some cult-watch listings.

The minute I received my incredibly heavy, glossy packet replete with photos of &quot;experts&quot; in expensive suits, I knew something was amiss.  

Then, when I saw the pleas for money and donations, and how to get others to donate to yourself, and how they would counsel me long distance (on how to get there) for a hefty sum per hour...I shut it all out.

Seems as if they combine the worst of Madison Avenue advertising with the rabid self-help movement, to create a wonderful financial opportunity for themselves at the expense of desperate parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am NOT a fan of Son Rise.  It has ALL the trappings of a scam.  It has even been listed on some cult-watch listings.</p>
<p>The minute I received my incredibly heavy, glossy packet replete with photos of &#8220;experts&#8221; in expensive suits, I knew something was amiss.  </p>
<p>Then, when I saw the pleas for money and donations, and how to get others to donate to yourself, and how they would counsel me long distance (on how to get there) for a hefty sum per hour&#8230;I shut it all out.</p>
<p>Seems as if they combine the worst of Madison Avenue advertising with the rabid self-help movement, to create a wonderful financial opportunity for themselves at the expense of desperate parents.</p>
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		<title>By: laurentius-rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurentius-rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cognitive dissonance isn&#039;t it, if something costs a lot either in money or effort it is valued more, even if it is a load of donkeys do do&#039;s 

Can&#039;t remember the resercher now,  but it was something about fraternity&#039;s and the harder the initiation ritual, the more the fraternity is valued.

My paintings are priceless you can&#039;t buy them(cos there is no market which is besides the point) but as a struggling artist there is no way I would sell myself short for little more than the price of a decent frame, I would price my pictures in the thousand pound plus bracket, cos who would take them seriosly as art otherwise :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cognitive dissonance isn&#8217;t it, if something costs a lot either in money or effort it is valued more, even if it is a load of donkeys do do&#8217;s </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t remember the resercher now,  but it was something about fraternity&#8217;s and the harder the initiation ritual, the more the fraternity is valued.</p>
<p>My paintings are priceless you can&#8217;t buy them(cos there is no market which is besides the point) but as a struggling artist there is no way I would sell myself short for little more than the price of a decent frame, I would price my pictures in the thousand pound plus bracket, cos who would take them seriosly as art otherwise <img src='http://www.blisstree.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kassiane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kassiane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What she said.

And while I don&#039;t doubt a lot of kids have made progress, I think that what happens in large part is FAMILIES make progress towards giving the child an environment they can succeed in. It&#039;s much easier to learn new skills when the people around you have the attitude of &quot;Whatever you can do today, tomorrow, and forever doesn&#039;t matter because I&#039;ll love you regardless&quot; than it is when you feel BROKEN. It&#039;s an expectations thing, too.

And most people don&#039;t need to spend that kind of cash to learn about love. Even if they want to use the approach, careful reading of the book should do it.

....and I don&#039;t believe in cure, either. I believe in &quot;enough skills gained to be successful in mainstream society&quot;, but that isn&#039;t cure. 

Confidence is good. Wonderful. But isn&#039;t that just a product of the environment? Heaven knows that at the late age of 16 I gained confidence, and at 21 even more...because the environments (gymnastics and a homeless shelter of all places) expected things of me that no one had before. And they expected me to be good at them. And lo and behold, I was. I didn&#039;t need to pay tons of money for that...

And I ALWAYS end up rambling on your blogs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What she said.</p>
<p>And while I don&#8217;t doubt a lot of kids have made progress, I think that what happens in large part is FAMILIES make progress towards giving the child an environment they can succeed in. It&#8217;s much easier to learn new skills when the people around you have the attitude of &#8220;Whatever you can do today, tomorrow, and forever doesn&#8217;t matter because I&#8217;ll love you regardless&#8221; than it is when you feel BROKEN. It&#8217;s an expectations thing, too.</p>
<p>And most people don&#8217;t need to spend that kind of cash to learn about love. Even if they want to use the approach, careful reading of the book should do it.</p>
<p>&#8230;.and I don&#8217;t believe in cure, either. I believe in &#8220;enough skills gained to be successful in mainstream society&#8221;, but that isn&#8217;t cure. </p>
<p>Confidence is good. Wonderful. But isn&#8217;t that just a product of the environment? Heaven knows that at the late age of 16 I gained confidence, and at 21 even more&#8230;because the environments (gymnastics and a homeless shelter of all places) expected things of me that no one had before. And they expected me to be good at them. And lo and behold, I was. I didn&#8217;t need to pay tons of money for that&#8230;</p>
<p>And I ALWAYS end up rambling on your blogs!</p>
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		<title>By: Ballastexistenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ballastexistenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something has always rang false, or rather &quot;rang heavily marketed&quot;, to me, about all of that particular family&#039;s attempts to make money off of all sorts of situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something has always rang false, or rather &#8220;rang heavily marketed&#8221;, to me, about all of that particular family&#8217;s attempts to make money off of all sorts of situations.</p>
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