Comments on: Send “le packing” packing

By: Mary McKinney

Mary McKinney — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:19:05 +0000

Le Packing = Le Torture? Why? It’s negative reinforcement. Hell I would say anything to not be wrapped up in a wet/cold blanket again. What the hell? If they did this in Gitmo, the Geneva Convention would kick them out! Yet, they get to do this to 10 year olds.

By: Casdok

Casdok — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:05:22 +0000

Im speachless!

By: Brain Patching and Autism Reversal

Brain Patching and Autism Reversal — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:49:24 +0000

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By: daedalus2u

daedalus2u — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:58:07 +0000

Interesting, and completely and totally misguided.

The “reason” wrapping in mud or clay has beneficial effects is due to the autotrophic ammonia oxidizing bacteria present in the mud or clay. Wrapping in cold sheets would not have that effect. Inducing hypothermia causes mitochondria uncoupling (to generate heat). This decreases NO levels still further and would exacerbate ASD symptoms in the short term.

Wrapping in cold sheets would likely produce local skin hypoxia and ischemia, both from the cold and from the vasoconstriction in response to the cold. This causes local oxidative stress, which can then cause rebound reactive hyperemia, the redness that follows ischemia.

There are structural neuroanatomy differences in ASD individuals. How is this wrapping supposed to modify that neuroanatomy?

The only mechanism by which I could see this having any “therapeutic effect” would be via a “rebound” effect after it is stopped. Sort of like treating a headache by banging on the foot until the foot hurts more than the head. When you then stop banging on the foot, it is noticed that the head doesn’t hurt as much.

By: Bad Science Abuses Autistics « Action For Autism

Bad Science Abuses Autistics « Action For Autism — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:23:01 +0000

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By: Regan

Regan — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:44:32 +0000

Restraint…full stop. Never mind the outcry, this guy has to stop and stop promoting this so-called treatment–today. Psychiatry and Freudian psychiatry in particular too often resembles quackery and sophistry in my book. It certainly has a negative history in autism.

As noted, wrapping the mentally ill up in wet sheets was considered psychiatric treatment back in the 50’s. I can assume that this works as well as that did then…which is not at all. One other danger is that children have been known to dislocate joints and crack bones struggling against the mechanical restraint. Is it possible that the kids are calming down because they can’t move while the restraints are on, that there might be some hypothermia going on, AND that there might be a reinforcement contingency in that the sheets/aversive is removed when the kids get quiet? Might be negative reinforcement going on here.

The French, and I will generalize based on feedback that I have gotten first hand, are WWWAAAYYY behind the curve on intervention and education of autism. I love France, but I hate reading stuff like this.

Kristina, thanks for posting this, but I wish that there wasn’t a story to publish.

By: Patrick

Patrick — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:01:20 +0000

Incoming sarcasm (sorry)

I think that anyone who beleives in this therapy is in themself a frigid wet blanket.

By: mommy~dearest

mommy~dearest — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:01:15 +0000

At first, I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. As I read on, this is a totally disturbing “treatment”, that makes me wonder if the originator is psychotic himself, or just a masochist.

It’s being studied to see if it’s effective? And these kids are the guinea pigs? I wonder staff have to undergo training in this, and get wrapped up in the frigid sheets themselves.

By: Niksmom

Niksmom — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:13:43 +0000

Ok, I’ll buy the *stretch* about deep pressure. But cold and wet…WTH??? Nik would go even wilder if anyone ever tried to wrap him in something like that! Cold and wet…his two least favorite sensations in the world! Seriously. He’d rather hit his head on the floor (from an accident, I mean) than touch cold and wet unless it is actual water.

Oy vey, what’s next from these “well-intentioned professionals?”

By: Howard

Howard — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:42:36 +0000

Hey Kristina…Here is another way to put it;

tan xin jin bin