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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/son-rise-rises-again/comment-page-1/#comment-554915</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We know a few families who have done the Son-Rise program and, after initial excitement, they have not said much about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know a few families who have done the Son-Rise program and, after initial excitement, they have not said much about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/son-rise-rises-again/comment-page-1/#comment-549103</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>18,000 is nothing! The 2 ABA based programs where I live are 64,000 and 68,000. Every insurance I&#039;ve seen excludes coverage, and Early Intervention only gives twice a month. I guess the non-upper middle and on down can just commit crimes and get sent to jail or a state institution for their care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18,000 is nothing! The 2 ABA based programs where I live are 64,000 and 68,000. Every insurance I&#8217;ve seen excludes coverage, and Early Intervention only gives twice a month. I guess the non-upper middle and on down can just commit crimes and get sent to jail or a state institution for their care.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/son-rise-rises-again/comment-page-1/#comment-546204</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 06:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the 3rd time I run into this website while doing research on the son rise program. Jannalou lovong your child is very different than having faith and hope. I see the progra, offers hope and does not emphasize on how much love you can pour over your child and he or she magically improves. The program offers a ray of hope to those parents who want to try it. Another thing, I am not sure if you have children but limiting a child to encourage him to grow is not torture. The child is not locked in there forever, he has to make adjustments and that may mean not being with his parent for a couple of hours. That is very similar to leaving a child in day care and he throws a fit because he wants his mom. To you the room is bleak and boring but to them it becomes a safe placewhere they are not overwhelmed, how is that harmful? The good stuff on the shelfs is to encourage the child to seek other means besides himself to obtain them and yes you can be creative as a therapist the toys will be your tools to reach him with minimal distractions. I truly do not understand why chew down on a program that has brought hope and presents amazing recoveries in many cases. Johanna, I agree with you, ask the parents and look at the way the children respond to therapy. Des, what kind of a comment is that? Wow you must have it all figured out! You havent read the book but already stated its like a description of Thomas Train? Outer Space? Computers? What? so havent read the book but an expert on it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the 3rd time I run into this website while doing research on the son rise program. Jannalou lovong your child is very different than having faith and hope. I see the progra, offers hope and does not emphasize on how much love you can pour over your child and he or she magically improves. The program offers a ray of hope to those parents who want to try it. Another thing, I am not sure if you have children but limiting a child to encourage him to grow is not torture. The child is not locked in there forever, he has to make adjustments and that may mean not being with his parent for a couple of hours. That is very similar to leaving a child in day care and he throws a fit because he wants his mom. To you the room is bleak and boring but to them it becomes a safe placewhere they are not overwhelmed, how is that harmful? The good stuff on the shelfs is to encourage the child to seek other means besides himself to obtain them and yes you can be creative as a therapist the toys will be your tools to reach him with minimal distractions. I truly do not understand why chew down on a program that has brought hope and presents amazing recoveries in many cases. Johanna, I agree with you, ask the parents and look at the way the children respond to therapy. Des, what kind of a comment is that? Wow you must have it all figured out! You havent read the book but already stated its like a description of Thomas Train? Outer Space? Computers? What? so havent read the book but an expert on it?</p>
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		<title>By: des</title>
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		<dc:creator>des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this kind of dead blog discussion while doing a search on Son rise.

I was one of the original aspies that guessed that Raun was most likely high functioning autistic. (He-- or I have always thought, one of the staff--wrote back a scathing letter saying that if everyone thought as I did that he would be in an institution playing with his feces.) I have found myself  and &quot;Raun&quot; quoted over and over, its rather funny actually. There were all kinds of statements in one of the books (that I admittedly didn&#039;t read) that described some of his interests, things like time travel, etc.etc. It was like if you saw a description of a kid who loved Thomas Train, outer space, computers, etc etc. I think this should be in the DSM. :-) 

I also don&#039;t think anyone is &quot;cured&quot; of autism. I think that kids who might do well (even with no real program as such) probably do well in various treatments. It is pretty well established that you can&#039;t tell by looking at a very young kid with hfa from a low functioning young kid, afaik.
Since Raun was diagnosed so young, it stands to reason that his family would have had little idea of his eventual prognosis. (Actually it was not an official dx. but I have little doubt that he was/is on the spectrum somewhere). I&#039;m actually rather appauled by the no. of people claiming that autism is like some kind of disease that is curable. ABA has a particularly bad history of this kind of thing, so you know they are competing with ABA. 

I actually approve of some of the Son Rise ideas.  Anyway there are other programs around these days that don&#039;t have the price tag and use some similar techniques like DIR Floortime and RDI.
At least the developers of these recognize they don&#039;t cure autism.

It remains questionable that you would want to eliminate all traces of a condition that has certain advantages (like a strong visual sense). Some autistic people will get furious on this topic, btw.

I have seen a lot of good anecdotal reports on Son rise, but as I said I think it is an educational approach (that other methods share). 

BTW, I heard a radio interview of Raun. He seems quite articulate. This in no way means he does NOT have hfa.


--des</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this kind of dead blog discussion while doing a search on Son rise.</p>
<p>I was one of the original aspies that guessed that Raun was most likely high functioning autistic. (He&#8211; or I have always thought, one of the staff&#8211;wrote back a scathing letter saying that if everyone thought as I did that he would be in an institution playing with his feces.) I have found myself  and &#8220;Raun&#8221; quoted over and over, its rather funny actually. There were all kinds of statements in one of the books (that I admittedly didn&#8217;t read) that described some of his interests, things like time travel, etc.etc. It was like if you saw a description of a kid who loved Thomas Train, outer space, computers, etc etc. I think this should be in the DSM. <img src='http://www.blisstree.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think anyone is &#8220;cured&#8221; of autism. I think that kids who might do well (even with no real program as such) probably do well in various treatments. It is pretty well established that you can&#8217;t tell by looking at a very young kid with hfa from a low functioning young kid, afaik.<br />
Since Raun was diagnosed so young, it stands to reason that his family would have had little idea of his eventual prognosis. (Actually it was not an official dx. but I have little doubt that he was/is on the spectrum somewhere). I&#8217;m actually rather appauled by the no. of people claiming that autism is like some kind of disease that is curable. ABA has a particularly bad history of this kind of thing, so you know they are competing with ABA. </p>
<p>I actually approve of some of the Son Rise ideas.  Anyway there are other programs around these days that don&#8217;t have the price tag and use some similar techniques like DIR Floortime and RDI.<br />
At least the developers of these recognize they don&#8217;t cure autism.</p>
<p>It remains questionable that you would want to eliminate all traces of a condition that has certain advantages (like a strong visual sense). Some autistic people will get furious on this topic, btw.</p>
<p>I have seen a lot of good anecdotal reports on Son rise, but as I said I think it is an educational approach (that other methods share). </p>
<p>BTW, I heard a radio interview of Raun. He seems quite articulate. This in no way means he does NOT have hfa.</p>
<p>&#8211;des</p>
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		<title>By: des</title>
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		<dc:creator>des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was one of the original aspies that guessed that Raun was high functioning autistic. I have found myself quoted over and over.</description>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting here, Johanna. My husband went to an informational session with Raun Kaufman and I think we concluded that it did not seem the right program for our son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting here, Johanna. My husband went to an informational session with Raun Kaufman and I think we concluded that it did not seem the right program for our son.</p>
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		<title>By: johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is that people is so judgemental?Have you been in the program?I had and it was the best thing I never did for me and my child.I met a friend&#039;s child completly recover from autism.As long as you think autism is not treatable that is what you are going to have as a result.People should ask parents who actually been there not the s called &quot;experts&quot;who will dischard your child from society.All open minded parents I invited you to investigate this program before you decide to turn away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is that people is so judgemental?Have you been in the program?I had and it was the best thing I never did for me and my child.I met a friend&#8217;s child completly recover from autism.As long as you think autism is not treatable that is what you are going to have as a result.People should ask parents who actually been there not the s called &#8220;experts&#8221;who will dischard your child from society.All open minded parents I invited you to investigate this program before you decide to turn away.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it was still inspiring?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it was still inspiring?</p>
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		<title>By: serge's dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>serge's dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 06:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the book, it was an inspiration (but I didn&#039;t believe a word of it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the book, it was an inspiration (but I didn&#8217;t believe a word of it)</p>
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		<title>By: Jannalou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jannalou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who say he&#039;s still autistic swear he&#039;s got a lot of autistic traits still (probably Aspie-ish).  And apparently they got him to rock at a conference.  It was pretty funny when they told me about it.  That was a few years ago.

I&#039;ll make that blog post now; hot, lazy summer afternoon and I have no more work to do anyhow.  (If I didn&#039;t have to wait for people to come in to pick up their invitations to the service on Sunday - Prince Edward will be there - I&#039;d be on my way home now!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who say he&#8217;s still autistic swear he&#8217;s got a lot of autistic traits still (probably Aspie-ish).  And apparently they got him to rock at a conference.  It was pretty funny when they told me about it.  That was a few years ago.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll make that blog post now; hot, lazy summer afternoon and I have no more work to do anyhow.  (If I didn&#8217;t have to wait for people to come in to pick up their invitations to the service on Sunday &#8211; Prince Edward will be there &#8211; I&#8217;d be on my way home now!)</p>
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