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The New McCarthyism

October 28, 2007 by Kristina Chew, PhD  
Filed under Health

If you hear about Arthur Miller—a witch hunt—McCarthyism—-the first thing that might come to mind is Miller’s 1952 play The Crucible, which is often interpreted as an allegory for the McCarthy Hearings. In 1952, Joe McCarthy, the junior senator from Wisconsin, proclaimed that 205 Communists had infiltrated the State department. Actors, screenwriters, directors and others associated with Hollywood had been investigated by the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) since 1947; many who refused to cooperate with the HUAC lost their jobs in the film industry and were blacklisted. Said Miller in a Paris Review interview, as noted in an essay by Tom Shafer:

In this general atmosphere of fear and suspicion, Arthur Miller was reminded of a topic he had researched for a play while a student at the University of Michigan. When “the McCarthy era came along,” he told The Paris Review, “I remembered these stories and I used to tell them to people when it [the Red Scare] started. I had no idea that it was going to go as far as it went. I used to say, you know, McCarthy is actually saying certain lines that I recall the witch-hunters saying in Salem. So I started to go back, not with the idea of writing a play, but to refresh my own mind because it was getting eerie.

McCarthy was on his own witch hunt to rout out any Communists and the atmosphere of “guilt, accusation, suspicion, and dread” generated is precisely conveyed by the witchcraft-fearing Puritans of Miller’s play.

But The Crucible is not exactly the subject here.

When I have mentioned Miller here, it is to refer to his son, Daniel Miller, who has Down Syndrome and who Miller did not acknowledge for most of his life. I have referred to witch hunts in reference to vaccines, which some believe is the cause of their child having autism. And McCarthy—-well, let’s say that is a surname mentioned often here as of the past month, thoughin regard to Jenny not Joe.

And, it could be said, we (”we” being the “autism community”) are living in the era of the New McCarthyism. An era in which the hunt is on for the terrible scourge that is damaging an epidemic number of America’s children, that is infiltrating the current generation with mercury or some autism-causing thing, that is perhaps even invading the very air we breeze (did someone mention pollution wafting across the Pacific Ocean from Chinese factories?) and poisoning the youth of tomorrow with some foul contagion. The source of this evil has a name, some say—vaccines—and it is on the list of many to be questioned and even brought to trial (the third trial of the Autism Omnibus Proceedsings is scheduled for November in Orlando; the second was in Charlotte, North Carolina; the first was held in June).

In commentary in the October 27th Wall Street Journal, Ari Brown, a pediatrician in Austin, Texas and a fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics, writes about the demonization of the vaccine program in the wake of the publication and publicizing of Jenny McCarthy’s book Louder Than Words: A Mother’s Journey in Healing Autism. She notes two “medical misaccuracies”:

Parents go through stages of grief when their child is diagnosed with a disorder like autism. We all want to blame someone for our suffering. That’s understandable. Was there something we could have done as parents to prevent this? But why hasn’t the media called out Ms. McCarthy on all the medical inaccuracies in her book? Has anyone actually read it? I have — cover to cover. Here are two revealing points:

Ms. McCarthy told Oprah that her son was a normal toddler until he received his Measles, Mumps and Rubella vaccine (at 15 months of age). Soon after — boom — the soul is gone from his eyes. Yet she contradicts herself in her book: “My friends’ babies all cracked a smile way before Evan did . . . he was almost five months old.” Which is it? Was he normal until his MMR vaccine or were some of the signs missed before he got that shot?

Ms. McCarthy also contends that mercury in vaccines caused damage to her son’s gut and immune system, leading to autism. Yet the mercury preservative Ms. McCarthy assails was removed from the childhood vaccination series in 2001. Her son, Evan, was born in 2002. It’s hard to trust Ms. McCarthy’s medical degree from the University of Google — she comments about the Hepatitis C vaccine that wreaked havoc on a friend’s child. An inconvenient truth: There is no Hepatitis C vaccine.

Brown notes that McCarthy is “in the trenches, fighting for her son” but she, too, is fighting, to “keep our kids healthy and protected.” Those who critique McCarthy are often themselves critiqued, and harshly, for not simply applauding her efforts for increasing autism awareness. Mention her interesting past exploits (1994 Playmate of the Year, among other endeavors) and one gets soundly drubbed (look at some of the comments on an earlier post; I am curious what this post might generate).

Vaccines as “a” or “the” cause of autism, the gluten-free casein-free diet, yeast—all theories and potential remedies that have been the talk of autism parents for at least the past decade—-have been given a new life in the media, due to McCarthy’s claims about what may have caused her son to become autistic, and what may have helped him. Due to her celebrity, it is no surprise that what McCarthy says and does in regard to autism gets much more attention than anything here ever might, but misinformation can be misleading, can even be dangerous. Biomedical treatments for autism are unproven; Dr. Roy Kerry has been charged with involuntary manslaughter in the August 2005 death of 5-year-old Abubakar Tariq Nadama while the boy was undergoing chelation therapy in the doctor’s office. Brown opens her Wall Street Journal commentary with an account of a 7-year-old girl who was brought to the emergency room of Children’s Hospital Boston.

The girl had come down with chickenpox a few days earlier — she had a fever and hundreds of itchy skin lesions. That night, she had taken a turn for the worse. Her fever shot up to 106 and she became confused and lethargic. She was unresponsive and limp in her mother’s arms.

The ER doctors suspected that her open sores allowed Strep bacteria to get under her skin and rage through her bloodstream. Now she was in “multiple system organ failure” — every square inch of her body was shutting down all at once. IVs were placed into her veins to start fluids, antibiotics and medications to stabilize her heart and blood pressure. She was placed on a ventilator machine to breathe. Then she was brought to the Intensive Care Unit.

By the time I met my patient, she had tubes coming out of every opening and weeping skin lesions all over her body. I was used to blood and gore, but it was hard to look at her and not cry. Imagine how her parents felt when they saw their once-beautiful little girl in this grotesque state, struggling to survive.

My attending physician told me to grab dinner. This child would need me for the rest of the night. I returned to the ICU to find that my patient had gone into cardiac arrest and died. I watched, helplessly, as the nurses placed the little girl into a body bag.

Fast forward five months: The first chickenpox vaccine was approved. That day, I vowed never to let a child on my watch suffer from a disease that was preventable by vaccination.

Brown coins the phrase the “New McCarthyism”; now it is the vaccine program that is being demonized as fear of vaccines leads parents to act in contradiction to their own beliefs.

Call it the New McCarthyism: Who cares about 100 years of scientific research? Vaccines are evil, because the Internet says they are. When a well-meaning parent like Ms. McCarthy blames vaccines for her child’s autism, it’s dangerous. Celebrity books come and go, but the anxiety they create lives on in pediatricians’ offices across the country. A small but growing number of parents are even lying about their religious beliefs to avoid having their children vaccinated, thanks in part to the media hysteria created by this book.

Joe McCarthy’s support and popularity began to fade in the 1954 Army-McCarthy hearings; he was censured by the United States Senate, which voted to “condemn” Senator Joseph McCarthy by a vote of 67 to 22 on December 2, 1954. “McCarthyism” has come to mean “the use of methods of investigation and accusation regarded as unfair, in order to suppress opposition” and to be associated more generally with the making of “demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations.” In the New McCarthysim, those who prefer not to talk about curing autism, or suggest that there is no epidemic of autism, or that a link between vaccines and autism is a myth, or that our better understanding of autism and better diagnosis are important reasons for the rising prevalence of autism, or that sometimes growing up and getting older are the reasons that a child does better,: Those who make such claims and arguments are roundly decried, criticized, and castigated, and I would not be surprised if Ari Brown receives such treatment for writing her article and for stating her beliefs about vaccines.

In the New McCarthyism, who is John Proctor? And who is Abigail?

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110 Responses to “The New McCarthyism”
  1. Cliff says:

    And yet is used in dentistry products, so the argument is not so easy to dismiss.

    Cliff

  2. Beau Geste says:

    That’s my point. Fluorine is toxic, yet we use it in toothpaste. Nobody has proven fluorine is safe to use in toothpaste. All we can say is there is no evidence of harm, and no known mechanism by which fluorine, when used in toothpaste, could be harmful.

  3. Chuck says:

    Cliff

    Fluoride is a compound of Fluorine, Fluorine is highly toxic and corrosive.

  4. What isn’t toxic, it might be wondered.

  5. Cliff says:

    And themerisol is a compound as well.

    Cliff

  6. Chuck says:

    Thimerosal is in vaccines, is fluoride? Is fluoride classified as a neurotoxin and if so at what amounts?

  7. Cliff says:

    Fluoride is a .1-.3 mg/kg toxicity level. It’s not in vaccines, but it is in dental products, as you know, but not in levels that make it anywhere near dangerous.

    Cliff

  8. Beau Geste says:

    So an element can be dangerous at one level, but not at another? Or is that just true for fluorine?

  9. Regan says:

    About Fluorine, and fluorine compounds
    “…fluorine does not occur free in nature and was extremely difficult for scientists to isolate…Sodium fluoride (NaF), stannous(II) fluoride (SnF2) and sodium monofluorophosphate (Na2PO3F) are all fluorine compounds added to toothpaste, also to help prevent tooth decay.”

    http://education.jlab.org/itselemental/ele009.html

    For something similar, see chlorine (g) and chlorine compounds (NaCl, for example).

  10. notmercury says:

    I meant endogenous.

  11. John Fryer says:

    To Cliff

    What do I do ? I am now retired.
    I was a science teacher.
    Mercury or thimerosal or thimerosal with significant amounts of methyl mercury impurity is not present in small amounts.
    If you look at PPM or PPB or levels of reference for toxic waste or polluted drinking water or levels at which it destroys our cells then thimerosal is way over the limit.
    Everybody here and elsewhere is discussing the link to autism. The most important link is to SIDS.
    Why did UK have nearly 2 000 SIDS every year? And why in the USA was it 8 000 (an estimate) every year?
    The official answer is we don’t know. But we do know that mercury is toxic. We do know that it is synergistic with other toxins.
    At this point we need on a precautionary principle to say it is responsible for those SIDS.
    It may only be directly responsible for a fraction of these but we have the right to good science and not the paid writings of those who not only know better but refuse to discuss why they use 500 year old writings of an astrologer and deny science of 100 years ago through to the present day which tells us not that mercury in vaccines not only causes SIDS but why hasn’t it taken out millions more children? One in Six or Twenty Four illnesses a year is no problem to the doctors.
    The reason we don’t admit the harm is that the harm is too big to admit too.
    So where do we go now?
    I think we will follow the Romans.
    All paths lead to Rome.
    But the path of illness leads to Trillions for Big Pharma.
    If they relied on me they would be have been bankrupt Sixty years ago.
    All I want is a total ban on mercury in vaccines – NOTHING LESS and NOTHING MORE.
    Fluorine is toxic and is in industrial waste – so what do you do with it? Pay billions to dispose of it properly? Or make money poisoning the world?

  12. Cliff says:

    Thank you for answering my questions, and I’ll consider the answers given time.

    Cliff

  13. passionlessDrone says:

    Hi Cliff -

    “I don’t doubt that mercury is toxic, but even things you’ve cited (let’s say lead) have toxicity levels (10 μg/dL, to quote the CDC). So I’d like some more confirmation from an expert.

    You might be interested in knowing that the CDC recently came out and acknowledged that levels of lead lower than that can have deliterious effects; especially on the young.

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071102/lead_levels_071102/20071102?hub=Health

    I’m sure we will never find the same thing about mercury though. So that’s good.

    Take care!

    - pD

  14. notmercury says:

    John Fryer said: “Everybody here and elsewhere is discussing the link to autism. The most important link is to SIDS.”

    Perhaps a quick glance at the name of this blog will shed some light on that.

    John,
    I know you are concerned with the health and safety of children everywhere but why are you concentrating on autism related blogs if you don’t think thimerosal is relevant to autism?

    You said: “No matter. Burbacher – well you are well informed obviously, so why Not Mercury? Are you politically or economically involved in damage limitation?”

    I mentioned Burbacher because it seemed like the most likely source of your “thimerosal is driven into the brain at a rate 5 times that of its close cousin” statement. If you could point me to the specific page and paragraph where that is demonstrated, I would appreciate it.

    To answer your other question, No. I am in no way politically or economically involved in “damage limitation.” I chose the pseudonym because it accurately encapsulates my position on the issue. Mercury does not cause autism, it causes mercury poisoning.

    CO and H2S are both endogenous neurotransmitters, they are generated by our own cells in extremely minute quantities. Dose does make the poison. Always and universally.

    Fluoride? Added to toothpaste because it is an essential component of tooth enamel. In many forms and concentrations it is toxic to living organisms but many organisms have evolved mechanisms to utilize the element.

    It’s pointless to compare F to Hg because mercury has no known biological function but there is no more or less of the element on Earth today than there was at any other time in history. If your goal is to eradicate it from the planet you better get busy.

  15. Cliff says:

    Interesting, and thank you, pD.

    Cliff

  16. Cliff says:

    I think the F to Hg comparison is legit in light that the dosage and concentration being important to the actual damage done. It wasn’t in any sense of function per se, though it’s not as if the themerisol was tossed in accidentally.

    Cliff

  17. notmercury says:

    Agreed Cliff.

  18. John Fryer says:

    Hi Not Mercury

    You are coming up with important points.
    First just because an element is in our body that doesn’t mean we can add any old compound to supply that element.
    Second just because we don’t find an element doesn’t mean its not needed.
    The human race is not very intelligent and if you look at vitamins and the history of any scientific progress it comes with disbelief, to pitched argument, to common knowledge.
    Mercury is at the stage where it kills and I think it causes autism, but I am coming at this very conservatively and slowly.
    I know many people killed or nearly killed by if not mercury then mercury + other toxins.
    The evidence is not from Burbacher which you know better than me, not from Maddy Hornig but from VAERS, from legal cases, from protestations of thousands of parents who demand:
    My child was 200 per cent fit and after a vaccine they are dead. It is the vaccine and any doctor or coroner that says otherwise is mistaken.
    I have someone I know at present vaccinated with mercury, head blows up 90 per cent and now months after the child is dead.
    Not only does mercury escape justice but the family is destroyed, separated and may end up in prison.
    It only makes sense if you control the law, the police, the science.
    It is called conspiracy, propaganda, dictatorship or what you like.
    But the problem is that it selectively kills those who have the power. They lose their own children and when you point out do something they point you to the DOH vaccine site where you are told: there is no problem.
    To the DOH 2 000 dead a year with no known cause is NO PROBLEM.
    It is a problem to any one of those children, and it should be a sufficient problem to the parents especially when hauled before the due process of law for killing their children.
    Children of 2 to 6 months only die of this mysterious syndrome. But if you give the same vaccines to teenagers you get 80 per cent complaints.
    We have in the 2 to 6 months, silent suffering and possibly autism in the future.
    But lets get SIDS sorted first and maybe I will give a considered review of autis after.
    The Geier’s are doing just fine on this.
    And Don Olmsted
    And Robert Kennedy
    And all.
    So if a person dies after a vaccine something must be driven into the brain to stop it working the heart and we know this is exactly what neurotoxins do. 100 000 examples is good enough for me to say it isn’t just some anecdote, this is some catsatrophe.

  19. Beau Geste says:

    Dan Olmsted? The former AP reporter? The guy who reported the Amish don’t vaccinate and don’t have autism?

    The guy who missed the Clinic for Special Children in the heart of Amish country?

    We can talk about the Geiers too if you like.

  20. notmercury says:

    JF: “My child was 200 per cent fit and after a vaccine they are dead.”

    I am deeply and truly sorry for your loss. Do you suppose it is possible that your objectivity has also suffered?

    Now I’d like to ask you a question. Are you involved in vaccine litigation like the Geiers?

  21. Chuck says:

    notmercury,

    I’m sure JF’s objectivity has suffered just as much as your has.

  22. Kassiane says:

    Many scientists feel SIDS is tied to mitochondrial disorders, particularly Leigh’s syndrome.

    Just because blaming vaccines is easier doesn’t mean it’s correct.

  23. notmercury says:

    Thanks Charles,
    I recognize and admit that I am not an objective observer. I am always ready to weigh new evidence and reconsider my position at any time and have done so in the past.

    I’d be open to the idea that mercury can cause autism if presented with convincing evidence to that effect. Do you know of any?

  24. Chawn says:

    Hi. I logged onto this blog just out of curiosity. Most of what you all are saying is WAY over my head, and what I have to say may not be relevant. Regarding the vaccinations: my son, who is five now, had the chicken pox when he was just under one. Since he already had the chicken pox, he has not had the vaccinations for this. He got the chicken pox from my mother who had Shingles at the time. My mother never had the vaccines, now she gets a serious outbreak of Shingles about once every six months or so. Not only does she suffer during her outbreak, but she is also potentially contagious if someone hasn’t been vaccinated. I say all that to say, if the vaccines are the cause of Autism, then why, at age five, was my son diagnosed with Autistic Disorder? My other children had the vaccines and they are fine.

    Also, regarding Jenny McCarthy. It is encouraging that she wants to get the recognition out about Autism. What is not encouraging is having a recently diagnosed child with Autism and being misinformed.

    Thanks for listening.

  25. Chawn, thank you so much for writing about your son—-that must have been really difficult for him to have chicken pox at such a young age. My son’s grandmother also had shingles recently and, fortunately my son has had the vaccine and the chicken pox.

    Thank you for thoughtful perspective.

  26. John Fryer says:

    Hi Not Mercury

    Thanks for the sympathy but I was referring to other people not me!
    I have no problems with vaccines except when given ten at a time to people who are against vaccines and to all the US babies who get Hep B with mercury, GMO, aluminium et al at one day when the parents don’t know the normal behaviour of their child or the toxic and unknown effects of this Witches Brew.
    I am not involved personally in any legal actions but I do try to help those like Sally Clark who got life for the death of her son 6 hours after a mercury vaccine.

  27. John Fryer says:

    Hi Kristina
    It isn’t easy blaming vaccines.
    I spent 5 years working on organophosphates and their role in SIDS. During this time I laughed at everyone who said vaccines were part of the problem. For the past seven years I have realised reluctantly that they are a major part of the problem and like me everyone was asleep at the wheel.
    IF you say its not mercury then you are left with investigating everything that is in a vaccine and I mean everything.
    The worlds most toxic non radioactive element gets the blame in any sane analysis of vaccines and the known properties of mercury toxicity and SIDS et al is too close to be dismissed as chance or dismissed by bad science or corrupt science.
    You mention mitochondria – guess what affects mitochondria along with nerves, bones, blood etc. Yes its our dear friendly all reacting, catalytic mercury again.
    As to bugs – if it takes 40 years to find bugs then that puts the quality of medicine today at zero.
    So perhaps it may be bugs after all? Who Knows?

  28. John Fryer says:

    Hi Chawn
    The problem with vaccines is they take out the immune system bit by bit.
    Boys suffer worse than girls all other things being equal. This is known fact.
    So here’s a guess your autistic son will be the eldest son as the others will have had less vaccines?
    If the autism is in a girl then that’s bad luck as they tend to be tougher. And if the girl has autism and not your boys then you will be in the great minority and perplexity of this awful epidemic.
    Sadly in this business girls are much better than boys at resisting neurotoxins.
    Nearly all my studies have been with boys and if there is a girl usually there are several boys also affected.
    So tell me I am wrong and you will have destroyed one of my theories!
    There are problems that affect girls but my hypothesis would be the boys never made it to life. This can happen with thalidomide where sometimes twins would arrive with a damaged girl and an afterbirth that should have been a boy. Gruesome but also fact.

  29. Regan says:

    I’m somewhat confused.
    The rate of SIDS has been decreasing during the period when the number of immunizations has been increasing, even in the period prior to the reduction of thiomersal in vaccines.
    Article: SIDS decreasing–interesting for graph of rate of SIDS 1983-1995.
    http://www.aafp.org/afp/980401ap/carroll.html

    SIDS Rate and Sleep Position, 1985-2000
    (Deaths per 1,000 Live Births)
    Sleep Position Source: NICHD Household Survey
    SIDS Rate Source: National Center for Health Statistics, CDC
    http://www.sidsillinois.org/images/reading_material/sleep_position.pdf
    I realize that SIDS is a difficult call because it should be a diagnosis of exclusion–(for instance, Harry Clark appears to have died of a lethal staphylococcus infection that was missed, according to post-mortem reports), but on a visual inspection it appears that SIDS and vaccines are inversely correlated. What is the data demonstrating causation?

  30. John Fryer says:

    To Cliff

    I can remember when 1PPM was safe for fluorine. I haven’t checked out your 0.1PPM is toxic but it just goes to show the harder you look at toxic chemicals the worse they are.
    When Magos and Clements write papers on how safe mercury is you begin to doubt your own sanity.
    Toxic levels get stricter not less strict.
    Mercury in the environment is virtually taboo at any level even 0.002 PPM so why do authors defend 100 PPM thimerosal?
    Its not bad or corrupt its just plain CRIMINAL.
    Are we saying mercury is not the most toxic non radioactive element? If so chemical science is becoming astrology or alchemy perhaps?
    John Fryer MSc BSc Advanced Analytical Chemist

  31. julie says:

    And if the girl has autism and not your boys then you will be in the great minority and perplexity of this awful epidemic.

    I am part of that group. We have two boys and one girl and she is in the middle so I can not even say that she recieved vaccines before the boys so they were more toxic. I do not believe that vaccines caused her autism. I look back and see signs of it from birth. I also look at her aunts uncles cousins parents and grandparents and see traits that she has that she got from all of us. I agree that mercury should not be in vaccines. I do not think that we should be giving our children any dose of a neurotoxin, but when you mention it on an autism blog it will ruffle feathers. People will assume that you think it is the cause of autism and that you are anti vaccine. My children did not recieve the standard schedule of vaccines. They never got more than one at atime and there were certain vaccines that they did not recieve until they were older or not at all. My doctors looked at each individual child and our family history. We have a lot of family members who have had reactions to certain vaccines and those we stayed away from and were more cautious about giving. My doctors have always been willing to work with me and I never felt pressured to do things differently. That said my daughter has had many x-rays as well because of pnemonia. I do not think that it is wise to expose her to radiation but I would not have thought to say to the hospital no you can not take the x-ray because it could harm her. Sometimes we have to weigh the risks with the benefits and make the best decision that we can at the time.

  32. Chawn says:

    John -

    I have two girls and my son. My son is the youngest. I appreciate your feedback and explanations.

  33. Kassiane says:

    Do your children like being called toxic? Cuz I’m a small woman who looks half her age and I scared the living daylights out of the last person who called ME a “toxic wastedump”.

    Who’s lacking empathy again?

  34. Beau Geste says:

    I remember reading many years ago that some researchers thought SIDS was caused by a build up of CO2 in front of the babies face, which is more likely to happen if a baby sleeps on its stomach. A normal baby’s brain detects a CO2 build up, and then signals the muscles to change position, or to exhale more forcefully, to “freshen” the air. Has anybody heard this one?

  35. John Fryer says:

    Beau Geste
    It isn’t likely that carbon dioxide would kill a child easily. This gas is and has been part of our history and so the body will have a good response as you suggest. The problem with lying face down in a cot with perfect seals is a little frightening and there should be ways for gases to descend and not build up if they are heavy.
    The problem was due to organophosphates as a flame retardant outgassing but all mattresses have for decades been made from phosphorus free materials.

  36. John Fryer says:

    To Julie

    Your case is fascinating to me. You have a girl with autism but boys that are fine. This does not help my theory one bit and I would be interested in finding out more. X rays are to be avoided but are not likely to lead to autism in any event.
    The clue is that you know your family reacts to vaccines. You say one vaccine at a time which is good.
    The second most important factor is weight as a heavier person is usually able to withstand vaccines more easily.
    I am pro vaccine but how many illnesses do we really need to protect ourselves from?
    And why is the oldest and the one which kills more than all the others left out? Ie. tuberculosis vaccines.
    Its not good to get pneumonia either.
    As a scientist the only thing I can say is everything has an explanation but from the little you tell us it is impossible to say why or where she got her conditions from.
    Pasteur overturned the spontaneous idea of life or illness and this applies to chemical illness as well as his microbial illnesses.
    Some problems arise in rhesus negative families but it is not clear if you are rhesus negative.

  37. John Fryer says:

    To Chuck
    If we only left most vaccines until our children could talk we would have most of the answers to why we have autism off scale..
    Chemicals are not easy to test certainly if you don’t bother to test for them for sure.
    When I was exposed to hydrogen sulphide toxicity you could detect 1 PPM instantly with your nose and more easily even then a test paper. To measure the exact level with a machine would be even more difficult.
    When you have 100 PPM of the world’s most toxic non radioactive element in your vaccines, any chemist would ask what the XXXX is going on.
    Unless that is he is getting paid in gold bars to say its no problem.
    There are ways weeks or months after that we can measure mercury body burden when it has been removed from our blood stream in a matter of a day or so.
    But your bit about an autopsy sounds good. Why don’t we do it for SIDS vicitmes then? Why do we test for every toxin that isn’t there and leave out the tests for toxins we know are there?
    The last time someone looked they didn’t find 100PPM; it had bioaccumulated in the body of the dead athlete (Sudden Adult Death) to more than 1 000 PPM of mercury. But then you have to admit death was from toxic mercury poisoning and nothing yet nothing has more mercury in it than vaccines.

  38. julie says:

    I am not a scientist so some of what you said was alittle over my head. I did not mean that the x-rays or pnemonia were what caused her autism. I was saying that She has auism but also other heather issues that have nothing to do with the autism. I believe that her autism is genetic. I know there may not be concrete proof of this but a lot of traits in less severity you can see in our family. As far as her wieght as a newborn she was only 5 pounds 6 ounces but quickly caught up and is now the largest of our children for her age. She is 2 years younger than her brother but only 2 inches and 5 pounds smaller. Her brothers immune system is the only one that has been compromised as a baby that we know of. He was born with spinal menegitis and recieved two weeks of iv antibiotic treatments and were told it could take up to two years for his system to catch up to normal. He is and always has been our healthiest child. I am no sure that there is a cause other than that is how she was made.

  39. Martha Gray says:

    Ms. Chew,
    For someone who claims to know what she is talking about, I didn’t read very far before I came across your clearly misinformed opinion that because Ms. McCarthy’s son Evan was born in 2002, he could not possibly have received mercury-laden vaccinations. Mercury was taken out of the manufacturing process for most childhood vaccines in 2001 (although not out of all of them) and, more importantly, existing stocks with a several-year shelf-life were never recalled. Plenty of children received many vaccinations with vaaccines containing mercury after 2001. Therefore, having read this in your diatribe, I saw no reason to bother reading any further. You may also remember that McCarthy (like the AAP and the CDC) was lauded as a hero for quite some time before being exposed as a fraud which, I think, is what will ultimately happen to the medical establishment in this debate.

  40. “You may also remember that McCarthy (like the AAP and the CDC) was lauded as a hero for quite some time before being exposed as a fraud which, I think, is what will ultimately happen to the medical establishment in this debate.”

    Indeed, yes—- Jenny McCarthy has quite exposed herself already.

  41. Tony Bateson says:

    Six years after approaching the Geier father and son epidemiologists in November 2002 at a vaccine conference in Washington where I told them of my inability to find unvaccinated autistic individuals in the UK population I have to report that the position remains exactly the same.

    I have just had an article published in the UK Autism File elaborating on my quest to find these people. Unfortunately they do not seem to exist even though the UK has up to 20% of children not being vaccinated with childhood vaccines.

    My estimate is that there are about three million people in the UK who have never had childhood vaccines. It’s arithmetic, not science, if there are no unvaccinated autistic people here it can mean only one thing! Scientists have trampled all over the wood and the trees, give me an answer to the number puzzle please.

    Tony Bateson

  42. ANB says:

    …if there are no unvaccinated autistic people here it can mean only one thing!

    And that one thing is?

  43. John Fryer says:

    to ANB (or anybody)

    Never heard of Mr Bateson or you except the former seems to be traceable as a person with sound views and you are just 3 letters and could be anybody.

    …if there are no unvaccinated autistic people here it can mean only one thing!

    And that one thing is?

    That one thing is: vaccines can cause autism

    Its not really that difficult to work out is it?

    But impossible for ANY nation including the greatest nation in the world to face up to this truth and pay out for the deliberate harm it has caused to millions of permanently injured and dead children.

    Not forgetting the families who are often themselves accused of the harm caused by the vaccines.

    John Fryer MSc BSc Chemist and mercury in vaccines researcher

  44. John Fryer says:

    Rather old but beau geste mentioned CO2 as a possible cause and yes CO2 can asphyxiate as is well known when children played with plastic bags when they didnt put holes in them.

    In fact it is not certain there is an obvious response to too much CO2 other than proper care.

    Stories difficult to confirm indicate unconsciousness comes suddenly when CO2 levels are high with possibly just a split seconds warning of doom.

    If beau geste is seriously thinking of CO2 as a cause then other toxic gases et al would have millions of times higher risk factors so I find it bizarre that a common substance harmless at 100 times the normal level should be considered seriously and rightly so but a substance like mercury lethal at 100 times less than in our vaccines can be dismissed by the same serious person.

  45. John Fryer says:

    The group should investigate both the USA Vaccine Injury Board and the National Institute for Health who for years have accepted 99 per cent of the claims for vaccine injury are false and denied any harm from mercury in vaccines respectively.
    Today, we see specimen folk from these organisations; ie people who look at the claims or old directors of NIH and they are saying in a loud and clear voice:

    Look again at the vaccine and autism link.

    WHY?

  46. @Tony Bateson,

    Is your article available online? Am curious about it and also on the sources for estimates of unvaccinated persons in the UK.

  47. Emily says:

    Looks like the bats have left the belfry.

  48. John Fryer says:

    Go to any place where the chemical pollutants have been let out and you will see problems.

    Chernobyl is still a dangerous place to live.

    The chemical bombs dropped on Vietnam, Iraq and the former Yugoslavia cause major health problems to people even today.

    The chemical spills from various places also continue to give rise to health problems.

    What is always difficult is first to prove that these incidents ever gave cause for concern one day later let alone two or three generations later.

    Those with eyes can look at rivers, beaches et al and be aware that even where there is no particular major spill or act that all is not quite right.

    The deliberate injection of brain destroying chemicals into babies vaccines and the continued use of such toxic matter with a denial that it is even present is surely enough to not trouble me personally but sufficient to affect the health of millions who are still managing to partly survive the holocaust thats happening and which many people on this post seem to think is an illusion and of no consequence.

    When the people have children on the autistic spectrum I wonder why they dont jump up and down to stop others following in their own childrens footsteps.

    The use of vaccines has improved but that isnt to say that improvements cant continue and to insist that mercury is out when its in is not forgetful its a deliberate criminal act.

  49. …if there are no unvaccinated autistic people here it can mean only one thing!

    And that one thing is?

    That one thing is: vaccines can cause autism

    Its not really that difficult to work out is it?

    Hasty conclusions are your thing, Mr. Fryer, not mine.

    – ANB

  50. Emily says:

    Has the apostrophe fallen out of favor? Or the comma? Just curious.

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