Comments on: The Number One Health Hazard in America? http://www.blisstree.com/articles/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/ Family, Health, Home and Lifestyles Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:12:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: HCN http://www.blisstree.com/articles/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-561741 HCN Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:14:57 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/#comment-561741 A small comparison of the difference in numbers of measles in fifty years: Year_Cases_Deaths_Year__Cases_Deaths 2000____86____ 1__1950_319124__468 2001___116____ 1__1951_530118__683 2002____44____ 0__1952_683077__618 2003____56____ 1__1953_449146__462 2004____37____ NA_1954_682720__518 2005____66____ NA_1955_555156__345 2006____55____ NA_1956_611936__530 Total___460_3 or more___3831277_3624 This does not show the one in 5000 of those who get measles who get permanent neurological damage (blindness, deafness, mental retardation, etc, http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/160/3/302). Do we really want to back to the way it was before the MMR? Right now measles is returning to the UK and Japan, and increasing in the USA. Data from: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/appdx-full-g.pdf A small comparison of the difference in numbers of measles in fifty years:
Year_Cases_Deaths_Year__Cases_Deaths
2000____86____ 1__1950_319124__468
2001___116____ 1__1951_530118__683
2002____44____ 0__1952_683077__618
2003____56____ 1__1953_449146__462
2004____37____ NA_1954_682720__518
2005____66____ NA_1955_555156__345
2006____55____ NA_1956_611936__530
Total___460_3 or more___3831277_3624

This does not show the one in 5000 of those who get measles who get permanent neurological damage (blindness, deafness, mental retardation, etc, http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/160/3/302). Do we really want to back to the way it was before the MMR? Right now measles is returning to the UK and Japan, and increasing in the USA.

Data from:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/appdx-full-g.pdf

]]> By: Emily http://www.blisstree.com/articles/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-554592 Emily Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:06:20 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/#comment-554592 pD, based on reading what the blog said, it would appear that this statement is predictive in nature, ergo any discussion of currently quantified health hazards is not relevant. And it's just a blog, right? ;-) pD, based on reading what the blog said, it would appear that this statement is predictive in nature, ergo any discussion of currently quantified health hazards is not relevant. And it’s just a blog, right? ;-)

]]> By: passionlessDrone http://www.blisstree.com/articles/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-543133 passionlessDrone Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:38:03 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/#comment-543133 Hello friends - <i>Or maybe Bad Astronomy’s statement could just be punctuated with a plain old, definitive, period.</i> What's so funny is that I could not count how many times I've seen the argument made on this site regarding people making associations they want to see, as opposed to what is really there. Could there possibly be a more concise illustration of this argument? Heart disease is largely preventable with diet and exercise, and kills half a million Americans a year, or more. Likewise with smoking. Diets rich in animal protein are much more likely to lead to a vareity of cancers and auto immune disorders. Mistakes in the medical industry have been reported to be the fourth leading killer in America. Yet a hundred people get measles, and 'antivaxxers' are the 'top health hazard in America'. That is some serious double think! - pD Hello friends –

Or maybe Bad Astronomy’s statement could just be punctuated with a plain old, definitive, period.

What’s so funny is that I could not count how many times I’ve seen the argument made on this site regarding people making associations they want to see, as opposed to what is really there. Could there possibly be a more concise illustration of this argument?

Heart disease is largely preventable with diet and exercise, and kills half a million Americans a year, or more. Likewise with smoking. Diets rich in animal protein are much more likely to lead to a vareity of cancers and auto immune disorders. Mistakes in the medical industry have been reported to be the fourth leading killer in America.

Yet a hundred people get measles, and ‘antivaxxers’ are the ‘top health hazard in America’. That is some serious double think!

- pD

]]> By: Autism, Representation, and the Case of Hannah Poling http://www.blisstree.com/articles/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-554550 Autism, Representation, and the Case of Hannah Poling Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:51:10 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/#comment-554550 [...] The notion that vaccines or mercury poisoning are the cause of autism not only poses some potential health hazards, but also creates an image of autistic children and adults as “less than [the rest of [...] [...] The notion that vaccines or mercury poisoning are the cause of autism not only poses some potential health hazards, but also creates an image of autistic children and adults as “less than [the rest of [...]

]]> By: Kristina Chew, PhD http://www.blisstree.com/articles/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-550749 Kristina Chew, PhD Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:18:32 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/#comment-550749 Kind of goes with the territory. I've appreciated the side-discussion about other candidates for Top American Health Hazard. Kind of goes with the territory.

I’ve appreciated the side-discussion about other candidates for Top American Health Hazard.

]]> By: Chuck http://www.blisstree.com/articles/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-553008 Chuck Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:08:29 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/#comment-553008 Just more of the never-ending opinionated hyperbole. Just more of the never-ending opinionated hyperbole.

]]> By: Melody http://www.blisstree.com/articles/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-550745 Melody Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:12:07 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/#comment-550745 I agree, that while the "advice" of not vaccinating kids is extremely harmful, that my experience growing up with limited funds, has left my parents, who have to work four jobs between them, to opt for fast food because of time and money. Fortunately, I weaned myself off of over-eating sweets by drinking water instead of soda and starting out by replacing a bowl of ice cream with a small extra helping of main course, and ditching potato chips and fast food. I'm still overweight, but I'm eating a lot healthier, and getting more exercise. I agree, that while the “advice” of not vaccinating kids is extremely harmful, that my experience growing up with limited funds, has left my parents, who have to work four jobs between them, to opt for fast food because of time and money. Fortunately, I weaned myself off of over-eating sweets by drinking water instead of soda and starting out by replacing a bowl of ice cream with a small extra helping of main course, and ditching potato chips and fast food. I’m still overweight, but I’m eating a lot healthier, and getting more exercise.

]]> By: Kristina Chew, PhD http://www.blisstree.com/articles/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-556749 Kristina Chew, PhD Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:52:14 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/#comment-556749 @chaotic idealism, where I work in Jersey City 99 cent bags of Cheetos and Doritos are the most readily accessible food item, along with candy bars, Snapple, soda. Fruit and vegetables sold in the little grocery stores and convenience stores just don't look as appetizing (or as clean). @Regan, Doses of the "i-word" all over. <a href="http://www.autismvox.com/patients-no-one-wants/">Squinting</a> a lot can make piano practice a little challenging----worked through and settling into bedtime now...... @chaotic idealism, where I work in Jersey City 99 cent bags of Cheetos and Doritos are the most readily accessible food item, along with candy bars, Snapple, soda. Fruit and vegetables sold in the little grocery stores and convenience stores just don’t look as appetizing (or as clean).

@Regan, Doses of the “i-word” all over.

Squinting a lot can make piano practice a little challenging—-worked through and settling into bedtime now……

]]> By: Regan http://www.blisstree.com/articles/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-560169 Regan Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:58:37 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/#comment-560169 Not restricted to this topic and not even excluding myself from the critique--I would say that irrationality is the number one health hazard anywhere. It's a beautiful evening here. 'Hope it is where you are. Not restricted to this topic and not even excluding myself from the critique–I would say that irrationality is the number one health hazard anywhere.

It’s a beautiful evening here. ‘Hope it is where you are.

]]> By: chaoticidealism http://www.blisstree.com/articles/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/comment-page-1/#comment-556735 chaoticidealism Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:48:05 +0000 http://www.autismvox.com/the-number-one-health-hazard-in-america/#comment-556735 There are worse hazards out there. Most people will still vaccinate; and the minor epidemics we'd get will only kill hundreds--not thousands of people, like many of the other health hazards in this country do. I could name a lot of them--the biggest, I think, is that unless you are at least lower middle class, it's quite hard to afford good, healthy food (and if you're not upper class, you have to make at least minor sacrifices to be able to fit it into your budget). When a mom can't afford to give her kid milk and whole-wheat, the kid will get Kool-Aid and Twinkies instead--and then we wonder why he's short for his age and behind in school! The brain's a machine that runs only as well as the fuel we give it... Not that I'm an extremist; the occasional Twinkie hurts nobody but a diabetic; but it's really ridiculous that I and people of my income level have to carefully budget the food stamps so as to afford lettuce (milk is out of my price range, sadly). There are worse hazards out there. Most people will still vaccinate; and the minor epidemics we’d get will only kill hundreds–not thousands of people, like many of the other health hazards in this country do. I could name a lot of them–the biggest, I think, is that unless you are at least lower middle class, it’s quite hard to afford good, healthy food (and if you’re not upper class, you have to make at least minor sacrifices to be able to fit it into your budget). When a mom can’t afford to give her kid milk and whole-wheat, the kid will get Kool-Aid and Twinkies instead–and then we wonder why he’s short for his age and behind in school! The brain’s a machine that runs only as well as the fuel we give it… Not that I’m an extremist; the occasional Twinkie hurts nobody but a diabetic; but it’s really ridiculous that I and people of my income level have to carefully budget the food stamps so as to afford lettuce (milk is out of my price range, sadly).

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