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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn’t have that same physical distance from home but it might give enough separation in their mind for your kids.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn’t have that same physical distance from home but it might give enough separation in their mind for your kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; siliconmom

I don&#039;t HS (yet, it is getting considered as an option because of a work move). If it ever comes to HSing for you I&#039;ve heard that some people purposely set up a separate physical space that is the &quot;school&quot; zone in their house. It doesn&#039;t have that distance from home aspect but it might give.

As for interaction among other kids it seems pretty common among HSers to organize loose groups of other HS parents where they can to give that to their children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; siliconmom</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t HS (yet, it is getting considered as an option because of a work move). If it ever comes to HSing for you I&#8217;ve heard that some people purposely set up a separate physical space that is the &#8220;school&#8221; zone in their house. It doesn&#8217;t have that distance from home aspect but it might give.</p>
<p>As for interaction among other kids it seems pretty common among HSers to organize loose groups of other HS parents where they can to give that to their children.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you, Siliconmom.  Home is my place to be myself.  Hs-ing works for us because Elf has decided that &quot;learning mode&quot; happens at 7 a.m. every weekday.  Except maybe on Christmas.  He&#039;s ready.  :]

But my older child G is more like what you&#039;ve described... his &quot;learning mode&quot; has to be at school.  I told the school to forget the homework; I&#039;m NOT doing it any more.  Two hours of screaming and rolling on the floor (the kid, not me LOL!) are not worth it for a two-sentence paragraph or whatever.  Hopefully the teachers understand.

IMO, (and I don&#039;t know whether you&#039;ve ever covered this aspect or not, Kristina,) the children who are mentally incapable of being in gifted-type classes... the staff seems to &quot;buy&quot; that those kids are autistic.  They seemed to think Elf was &quot;manipulating&quot; all the adults.  Like, he woke up that morning thinking of all the trouble he could get into because he had the wrong pencil or someone touched a red crayon he was using.  Mmm hmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you, Siliconmom.  Home is my place to be myself.  Hs-ing works for us because Elf has decided that &#8220;learning mode&#8221; happens at 7 a.m. every weekday.  Except maybe on Christmas.  He&#8217;s ready.  :]</p>
<p>But my older child G is more like what you&#8217;ve described&#8230; his &#8220;learning mode&#8221; has to be at school.  I told the school to forget the homework; I&#8217;m NOT doing it any more.  Two hours of screaming and rolling on the floor (the kid, not me LOL!) are not worth it for a two-sentence paragraph or whatever.  Hopefully the teachers understand.</p>
<p>IMO, (and I don&#8217;t know whether you&#8217;ve ever covered this aspect or not, Kristina,) the children who are mentally incapable of being in gifted-type classes&#8230; the staff seems to &#8220;buy&#8221; that those kids are autistic.  They seemed to think Elf was &#8220;manipulating&#8221; all the adults.  Like, he woke up that morning thinking of all the trouble he could get into because he had the wrong pencil or someone touched a red crayon he was using.  Mmm hmm.</p>
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		<title>By: siliconmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>siliconmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always amazed when I hear stories about children being locked in closets and restrained. It makes me thankful for the schools my children attend and the personnel who work with them every day. 

I&#039;m a former teacher and I have to admit that I, like Chris H., don&#039;t think I&#039;d be able to homeschool my kids. I mean, I *could* if I really needed to, but I think it&#039;s important for my kids to have that separation between school and home. They need that act of physically going somewhere else to get in to their learning mode, if that makes sense. I mean, they learn at home but in a less structured way. When they&#039;re home they&#039;re able to be more on their own agenda and it&#039;s important I think for them to have that outlet. It teaches them self regulation - i.e. I can get through my school/work/whatever because I&#039;ll be able to go home at the end and relax. Home is my safe place to truly be myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always amazed when I hear stories about children being locked in closets and restrained. It makes me thankful for the schools my children attend and the personnel who work with them every day. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a former teacher and I have to admit that I, like Chris H., don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d be able to homeschool my kids. I mean, I *could* if I really needed to, but I think it&#8217;s important for my kids to have that separation between school and home. They need that act of physically going somewhere else to get in to their learning mode, if that makes sense. I mean, they learn at home but in a less structured way. When they&#8217;re home they&#8217;re able to be more on their own agenda and it&#8217;s important I think for them to have that outlet. It teaches them self regulation &#8211; i.e. I can get through my school/work/whatever because I&#8217;ll be able to go home at the end and relax. Home is my safe place to truly be myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristina said &quot;Calling on folks from Washington to sort it out!&quot;

:-p

Does it really matter?  Especially with the changes in diagnosis in the past few years?  Plus, Whidbey is really way up there in what is essentially the boonies!  (and don&#039;t forget it is a military town, not unlike Ft. Dix, NJ). It is not the same population density that surrounds the area near King and Pierce County (note that I included the link to CHILD, which is right there in the midst of the largest county in the state!).

Really, it is not a big deal.

Plus, there are some interesting state wide funding clauses that favor small districts (Washington residents look up &quot;John Rogers&quot;, the political person, not the schools named after him!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristina said &#8220;Calling on folks from Washington to sort it out!&#8221;</p>
<p>:-p</p>
<p>Does it really matter?  Especially with the changes in diagnosis in the past few years?  Plus, Whidbey is really way up there in what is essentially the boonies!  (and don&#8217;t forget it is a military town, not unlike Ft. Dix, NJ). It is not the same population density that surrounds the area near King and Pierce County (note that I included the link to CHILD, which is right there in the midst of the largest county in the state!).</p>
<p>Really, it is not a big deal.</p>
<p>Plus, there are some interesting state wide funding clauses that favor small districts (Washington residents look up &#8220;John Rogers&#8221;, the political person, not the schools named after him!).</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Schwarz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Schwarz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of pissing contest among public school districts protective of turf is reminiscent of the unfortunate demise of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chronogram.com/issue/2005/04/communitynotebook/index.php&quot;&gt;ASPIE School&lt;/a&gt;, founded by parent and self-advocate &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.valerieparadiz.com&quot;&gt;Valerie Paradiz&lt;/a&gt;.  The ASPIE School had to close, after the school districts funding it pulled out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of pissing contest among public school districts protective of turf is reminiscent of the unfortunate demise of the <a href="http://www.chronogram.com/issue/2005/04/communitynotebook/index.php">ASPIE School</a>, founded by parent and self-advocate <a href="http://www.valerieparadiz.com">Valerie Paradiz</a>.  The ASPIE School had to close, after the school districts funding it pulled out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for catching that! Though it seems the Academy for Precision learning isn&#039;t only for autistic students? Calling on folks from Washington to sort it out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for catching that! Though it seems the Academy for Precision learning isn&#8217;t only for autistic students? Calling on folks from Washington to sort it out!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just remembered something... in the first sentence you, Kristina, wrote &quot;Washington’s first private school specifically for autistic children,&quot;

YET!  A past posting of yours disputes that:
http://www.autismvox.com/a-school-that-just-accepts-autistic-kids/

You wrote that last June, that predates the September opening of Wintros.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remembered something&#8230; in the first sentence you, Kristina, wrote &#8220;Washington’s first private school specifically for autistic children,&#8221;</p>
<p>YET!  A past posting of yours disputes that:<br />
<a href="http://www.autismvox.com/a-school-that-just-accepts-autistic-kids/" rel="nofollow">http://www.autismvox.com/a-school-that-just-accepts-autistic-kids/</a></p>
<p>You wrote that last June, that predates the September opening of Wintros.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LBC, I don&#039;t mind paying taxes if they&#039;re used well, but my kiddo was locked in a closet on more than one occasion in ps.  I FIRMLY believe this happens way, way, WAY, WAY more than is reported in the media.  Mainly because of some of the reasons you describe... not every parent feels s/he CAN homeschool or has money for private ed.  They stay and try to make the system better.  They hope next year, next teacher, next program might be better.

If I learned one thing through my experience, it is that the responsibility to educate my children rests with me whether I choose public, private or home school.  The state does not own them.  Why does anyone need to know what is going on in my classroom?  

I&#039;d like to think that we don&#039;t live in a Nanny State where I or my children should be examined to live up to some state &quot;standard.&quot;  If I&#039;m not receiving any funds, I shouldn&#039;t be accountable to anyone at all.  Once you go down that path, you realize that the state could make sure you&#039;re serving nutritious food to your kids next.  Or providing adequate health care.  Or getting the children enough sleep each night.  Or whatever.  

And all these things are GOOD things, but I stand on my Fourth Amendment right at the front door.  There just comes a point where the state needs to mind its own stinkin&#039; business.

PS.  I do have two older children in public schools, and one of them is autistic.  So happens that in THEIR cases, it&#039;s working reasonably well.  So, I&#039;m not really at odds with you per se.  :]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LBC, I don&#8217;t mind paying taxes if they&#8217;re used well, but my kiddo was locked in a closet on more than one occasion in ps.  I FIRMLY believe this happens way, way, WAY, WAY more than is reported in the media.  Mainly because of some of the reasons you describe&#8230; not every parent feels s/he CAN homeschool or has money for private ed.  They stay and try to make the system better.  They hope next year, next teacher, next program might be better.</p>
<p>If I learned one thing through my experience, it is that the responsibility to educate my children rests with me whether I choose public, private or home school.  The state does not own them.  Why does anyone need to know what is going on in my classroom?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think that we don&#8217;t live in a Nanny State where I or my children should be examined to live up to some state &#8220;standard.&#8221;  If I&#8217;m not receiving any funds, I shouldn&#8217;t be accountable to anyone at all.  Once you go down that path, you realize that the state could make sure you&#8217;re serving nutritious food to your kids next.  Or providing adequate health care.  Or getting the children enough sleep each night.  Or whatever.  </p>
<p>And all these things are GOOD things, but I stand on my Fourth Amendment right at the front door.  There just comes a point where the state needs to mind its own stinkin&#8217; business.</p>
<p>PS.  I do have two older children in public schools, and one of them is autistic.  So happens that in THEIR cases, it&#8217;s working reasonably well.  So, I&#8217;m not really at odds with you per se.  :]</p>
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