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		<title>By: Sueshell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sueshell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately I never believed that these time out boxes were real, until my 8 year old autistic son came home and said they had locked him in a room at school. I asked the special ed teacher about this and she willingly showed me the room. It was the most horrid thing I had ever seen. It was a 6&#039; x 6&#039; box with a door. Atleast the door has a window. It has ply wood walls and carpeting on the floor. I was shocked. This room had been built over the summer and was not in my sons IEP. The only time out space I agreed to was a 3/4 closed in cubical. I also heard from the teacher that he voulantarily went in to this room. I&#039;m sorry the backs of my sons shoes were not worn off by walking in there on his own. He definetely has been drug. We live in The Tumwater School District in Washington State. I have been told that they are within the legal guidelines of the law. I don&#039;t know about anyone else, but when someone tells me that, I have trouble believing them. I have recently filed a due process against the school and also filed a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights. These isolation cells are not the way to teach my child or anyone else&#039;s. I am finding out as I go along that most of the autistic kids put into this box are acting out because they are frustrated and don&#039;t understand the assignment in front of them. Teachers who don&#039;t know how to teach these children put them in a cell. Washington State says that my sons special ed teacher is certified to teach him, but it doesn&#039;t mean she is good at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately I never believed that these time out boxes were real, until my 8 year old autistic son came home and said they had locked him in a room at school. I asked the special ed teacher about this and she willingly showed me the room. It was the most horrid thing I had ever seen. It was a 6&#8242; x 6&#8242; box with a door. Atleast the door has a window. It has ply wood walls and carpeting on the floor. I was shocked. This room had been built over the summer and was not in my sons IEP. The only time out space I agreed to was a 3/4 closed in cubical. I also heard from the teacher that he voulantarily went in to this room. I&#8217;m sorry the backs of my sons shoes were not worn off by walking in there on his own. He definetely has been drug. We live in The Tumwater School District in Washington State. I have been told that they are within the legal guidelines of the law. I don&#8217;t know about anyone else, but when someone tells me that, I have trouble believing them. I have recently filed a due process against the school and also filed a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights. These isolation cells are not the way to teach my child or anyone else&#8217;s. I am finding out as I go along that most of the autistic kids put into this box are acting out because they are frustrated and don&#8217;t understand the assignment in front of them. Teachers who don&#8217;t know how to teach these children put them in a cell. Washington State says that my sons special ed teacher is certified to teach him, but it doesn&#8217;t mean she is good at it.</p>
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		<title>By: David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction)</title>
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		<dc:creator>David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nto convince -&gt; not convinced.

see how tired i am? :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nto convince -&gt; not convinced.</p>
<p>see how tired i am? :/</p>
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		<title>By: David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction)</title>
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		<dc:creator>David N. Andrews M. Ed. (Distinction)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay.

been looking up basic principles again of operant conditioning to make sure i&#039;m not erring here, and i&#039;m nto convince that a &#039;time-out room&#039; is in fact a &#039;time out&#039; feature. the definition of &#039;time out&#039; is a time spent in the absence of positive reinforcement. a time out room may well act as a means of preventing positive reinforcement of the child&#039;s behaviour, true; but... to segregate the child from the others in his/her class and hold them in a separate enclosure is not time out: it is imprisonment, which is a different thing, and cannot have the same effect as time out. 

the TEACCH website says this: &#039;Many classrooms need to utilize a time-out area as a place for particular students to get away from distractions and stimulation and regain some self-control.&#039;

this suggests strongly to me that the idea of time out is NOT to inflict an imprisonment but to remove the child from the IMMEDIATE reinforcing situation, without segregating him/her from his/her classmates.

in any case, at least in Georgia (but, in my view, it should be so elsewhere too!), what they call &#039;seclusionary time out&#039; (i. e., time-out rooms) should not be used without the express order of a licenced psychologist or medical practitioner FOR EACH TIME IT IS USED; the following site makes it clear that time out rooms are inappropriate for school use: http://www.behavior-consultant.com/Time-Out-Guidelines.pdf

just the two-penn&#039;orth of an educational psychologist who is tired and needs to sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay.</p>
<p>been looking up basic principles again of operant conditioning to make sure i&#8217;m not erring here, and i&#8217;m nto convince that a &#8216;time-out room&#8217; is in fact a &#8216;time out&#8217; feature. the definition of &#8216;time out&#8217; is a time spent in the absence of positive reinforcement. a time out room may well act as a means of preventing positive reinforcement of the child&#8217;s behaviour, true; but&#8230; to segregate the child from the others in his/her class and hold them in a separate enclosure is not time out: it is imprisonment, which is a different thing, and cannot have the same effect as time out. </p>
<p>the TEACCH website says this: &#8216;Many classrooms need to utilize a time-out area as a place for particular students to get away from distractions and stimulation and regain some self-control.&#8217;</p>
<p>this suggests strongly to me that the idea of time out is NOT to inflict an imprisonment but to remove the child from the IMMEDIATE reinforcing situation, without segregating him/her from his/her classmates.</p>
<p>in any case, at least in Georgia (but, in my view, it should be so elsewhere too!), what they call &#8217;seclusionary time out&#8217; (i. e., time-out rooms) should not be used without the express order of a licenced psychologist or medical practitioner FOR EACH TIME IT IS USED; the following site makes it clear that time out rooms are inappropriate for school use: <a href="http://www.behavior-consultant.com/Time-Out-Guidelines.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.behavior-consultant.com/Time-Out-Guidelines.pdf</a></p>
<p>just the two-penn&#8217;orth of an educational psychologist who is tired and needs to sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: Timeout Rooms and Physical Restraints</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timeout Rooms and Physical Restraints</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in a timeout room more than 90 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: natalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please tell me why we allow these &quot;public employees&quot; to get away with abuse? Physical,sexual,emotional....where does it end? Why are they not held accountable for these loathsome methods of treatment? 
I am ready for a united advocacy for these children by parents!!! How dare they think we will tolerate this? :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell me why we allow these &#8220;public employees&#8221; to get away with abuse? Physical,sexual,emotional&#8230;.where does it end? Why are they not held accountable for these loathsome methods of treatment?<br />
I am ready for a united advocacy for these children by parents!!! How dare they think we will tolerate this? <img src='http://www.blisstree.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Autism Vox &#187; The Timeout Box (2)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Autism Vox &#187; The Timeout Box (2)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Linda Ritter, parent of an elementary-school-age child, shared her statement regarding the Olympia School District&#8217;s autism program in a comment on Autism Vox. She says: &#8220;It&#8217;s just unthinkable for me. It&#8217;s just wrong. It&#8217;s not appropriate treatment of autistic children.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Linda Ritter, parent of an elementary-school-age child, shared her statement regarding the Olympia School District&#8217;s autism program in a comment on Autism Vox. She says: &#8220;It&#8217;s just unthinkable for me. It&#8217;s just wrong. It&#8217;s not appropriate treatment of autistic children.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Square Girl, for your comment----I would like to know what would happen IF anything &quot;negative&quot; (hitting for instance) happened. No matter how much one plans, things can happen----that has happened to us more than once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Square Girl, for your comment&#8212;-I would like to know what would happen IF anything &#8220;negative&#8221; (hitting for instance) happened. No matter how much one plans, things can happen&#8212;-that has happened to us more than once.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. Ritter, thank you very much for sharing your statement with us. Please keep us informed about what happens in your district----are they keeping you informed about who the independent Autism Expert will be? Do you have any say in this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Ritter, thank you very much for sharing your statement with us. Please keep us informed about what happens in your district&#8212;-are they keeping you informed about who the independent Autism Expert will be? Do you have any say in this?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Ritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Ritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to share with you the statement and pictures I submitted to the Olympia School District.  It is important to note the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Project TEACCH does not support &quot;time-out boxes.&quot;  They were very helpful in assisting me with addressing this issue.  I have had no response from the school board or district on any policy changes in using this type of discipline.  Below is my statement.

Several months ago I attended an Autism Society of WA support group meeting.  I listened to an Olympia School District mom describe how a few years ago her son came home with bruises.  She told how her son, with Autism Spectrum Disorder, who attended the Jefferson Middle School TEACCH Program had been forced into what the staff referred to as “the box.”  She described sections of plywood attached to the walls, with another piece of plywood staff would hold over the opening.  He was apparently injured while being forced in or while frantically throwing himself against the plywood to get out.  The mom had seen “the box” being used before on other children, but it was not part of her sons IEP.  She brought her son into school and showed both the teacher and the principal his bruises. 

I assumed this practice had ended in the Olympia School District, until recently.  Not only has it not ended, it is used in both the preschool (with 3-4 year olds) and the elementary TEACCH programs.

Because the district claims to offer the “TEACCH Program”, I decided to contact the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Division TEACCH, not only the authority on TEACCH, but where it was founded.  I corresponded with both, Dr. Kerry Hogan, Assistant Clinical Director, and Dr. Gary Mesibov, Director, Division TEACCH.  I was shocked to learn that they were not affiliated with the Olympia School District, or any other Washington state school.  This explains a lot of inconsistencies.  Although teachers may have attended training, I feel the district calling their programs “The TEACCH Program” is misleading.  The name suggests affiliation with Division TEACCH, not to say this is the districts intent.

After forwarding pictures and descriptions of how parents have described these “time-out boxes” being used, I received this response from Dr. Hogan:

“I do consult to some classes that have relaxation areas that may contain 
sensory toys or other calming activities. The appropriate use of these 
areas is to provide a break for a student who is stressed and to teach 
positive coping skills but they are specifically not to be used as time 
out. As I said, I can&#039;t think of anyone at TEACCH who would suggest the 
use of isolation for behavior management purposes especially if it 
requires physical management of the child.”

Dr. Mesibov added that someone from Division TEACCH would be happy to come out and document whether the district is using TEACCH appropriately, if the board requests.

As the parent of a son with autism, I am deeply concerned about the treatment of autism in this district.  Because of this issue and many others raised this year by families of autistic children, I am requesting the board bring in an independent Autism Expert to review current programs, IEPs, and compliance with IDEA 2004.  I know the district is currently working with Dr. Steven Becker and another family.  He is highly qualified and I will forward his information with my request via email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to share with you the statement and pictures I submitted to the Olympia School District.  It is important to note the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Project TEACCH does not support &#8220;time-out boxes.&#8221;  They were very helpful in assisting me with addressing this issue.  I have had no response from the school board or district on any policy changes in using this type of discipline.  Below is my statement.</p>
<p>Several months ago I attended an Autism Society of WA support group meeting.  I listened to an Olympia School District mom describe how a few years ago her son came home with bruises.  She told how her son, with Autism Spectrum Disorder, who attended the Jefferson Middle School TEACCH Program had been forced into what the staff referred to as “the box.”  She described sections of plywood attached to the walls, with another piece of plywood staff would hold over the opening.  He was apparently injured while being forced in or while frantically throwing himself against the plywood to get out.  The mom had seen “the box” being used before on other children, but it was not part of her sons IEP.  She brought her son into school and showed both the teacher and the principal his bruises. </p>
<p>I assumed this practice had ended in the Olympia School District, until recently.  Not only has it not ended, it is used in both the preschool (with 3-4 year olds) and the elementary TEACCH programs.</p>
<p>Because the district claims to offer the “TEACCH Program”, I decided to contact the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, Division TEACCH, not only the authority on TEACCH, but where it was founded.  I corresponded with both, Dr. Kerry Hogan, Assistant Clinical Director, and Dr. Gary Mesibov, Director, Division TEACCH.  I was shocked to learn that they were not affiliated with the Olympia School District, or any other Washington state school.  This explains a lot of inconsistencies.  Although teachers may have attended training, I feel the district calling their programs “The TEACCH Program” is misleading.  The name suggests affiliation with Division TEACCH, not to say this is the districts intent.</p>
<p>After forwarding pictures and descriptions of how parents have described these “time-out boxes” being used, I received this response from Dr. Hogan:</p>
<p>“I do consult to some classes that have relaxation areas that may contain<br />
sensory toys or other calming activities. The appropriate use of these<br />
areas is to provide a break for a student who is stressed and to teach<br />
positive coping skills but they are specifically not to be used as time<br />
out. As I said, I can&#8217;t think of anyone at TEACCH who would suggest the<br />
use of isolation for behavior management purposes especially if it<br />
requires physical management of the child.”</p>
<p>Dr. Mesibov added that someone from Division TEACCH would be happy to come out and document whether the district is using TEACCH appropriately, if the board requests.</p>
<p>As the parent of a son with autism, I am deeply concerned about the treatment of autism in this district.  Because of this issue and many others raised this year by families of autistic children, I am requesting the board bring in an independent Autism Expert to review current programs, IEPs, and compliance with IDEA 2004.  I know the district is currently working with Dr. Steven Becker and another family.  He is highly qualified and I will forward his information with my request via email.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 06:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been teaching an elementary eclectic life skills class for a number of years now and during that time I have never had to resort to a time out room.  Actually, nothing like that exists on the campus, and certainly enclosing a child in a small space with a door could end up being a nightmare for him or her.  I have found a more positive approach is to have a small sofa with stuffed animal toys, and rocking chair in an area of the classroom that is set up for group reading and as a place to go when a child feels like getting away from too much stimulation.

As to the &quot;voluntary&quot; nature of the time out space that you mention, I have my doubts that it gets used voluntarily very frequently, although it may in fact be used quite frequently.  I would recommend closely examining the laws applicable to your state on removing children from the educational environment.

You shouldn&#039;t tolerate letting the kids be shut in a closet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been teaching an elementary eclectic life skills class for a number of years now and during that time I have never had to resort to a time out room.  Actually, nothing like that exists on the campus, and certainly enclosing a child in a small space with a door could end up being a nightmare for him or her.  I have found a more positive approach is to have a small sofa with stuffed animal toys, and rocking chair in an area of the classroom that is set up for group reading and as a place to go when a child feels like getting away from too much stimulation.</p>
<p>As to the &#8220;voluntary&#8221; nature of the time out space that you mention, I have my doubts that it gets used voluntarily very frequently, although it may in fact be used quite frequently.  I would recommend closely examining the laws applicable to your state on removing children from the educational environment.</p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t tolerate letting the kids be shut in a closet.</p>
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