Comments on: Thimerosal Is Not a Primary Cause of Autism and Neither Is Mercuritol (Except, Maybe, on ABC)

By: Square Pegs

Square Pegs — Fri, 30 May 2008 05:18:31 +0000

[...] these cases weren’t the stuff of network drama (like this TV show—remember the “mercuritol”?). They were real things that happened to real autistic [...]

By: Physicians, Vaccines, and Autism

Physicians, Vaccines, and Autism — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:22:26 +0000

[...] Back in January, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) sent a letter to the producers of the ABC legal drama, Eli Stone; the AAP was justifiably concerned about the TV show’s presentation of the issue of vaccines [...]

By: Autism Blog » This Whole Mito Thing (My Final Vent…Hopefully!) : » Autism news and opinion

Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:41:53 +0000

[...] began on AutismVox when comments began rolling in here over the supposed autism-vaccine case that the Government conceded on. Truth is, it was a [...]

By: Kassiane

Kassiane — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:36:37 +0000

It’s really quite appalling that Kirby is using mito in his “crusade”. He could kill people with mito. Besides which, there are tests (blood and muscle) which a) make a distinction and b) will really suck for children who have absolutely zero symptoms. I’m sure, though, that badgering someone into a painful muscle biopsy will become the next big thing, if not just shoving the amino acid cocktail into autistic kids…

*sighs* it’s a LOT of pills.

By: Regan

Regan — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:41:16 +0000

“Those un-vaccinated children put my child and my friend’s children at risk for contracting serious diseases. Diseases that most certainly would land a child with mito in the ICU & possibly kill them.”

S.L.
Thank you for pointing that out, and for your other comments on mitochondrial disease. I considered that it might be an ironic and most unfortunate consequence if Mr. Kirby’s essay in fact jeopardizes the group of children that he is using as rhetorical pawns.

By: daedalus2u

daedalus2u — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:22:46 +0000

Kristina, it is only non-scientists who think this court case has anything to do with what causes autism.

Kirby is spouting nonsense as he always does because he doesn’t understand science. How people can listen to the nonsense that he spouts off on and take it seriously is something that I do not understand.

This case had nothing to do with autism, or with vaccines causing autism.

By: S.L.

S.L. — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:09:50 +0000

FYI…vaccines ARE recommended for children with mito!!!! Some are advised to avoid a shot, ONLY if a history of bad reactions exists (which holds true for the general population). My friends whose children have mito ALL vaccinate their children and are mortified by people who opt to not give shots to their kids because of quack science (vaccines=autism). Those un-vaccinated children put my child and my friend’s children at risk for contracting serious diseases. Diseases that most certainly would land a child with mito in the ICU & possibly kill them.

Go here: http://www.umdf.org/site/c.dnJEKLNqFoG/b.3616911/apps/s/content.asp?ct=4211851 and read. I will also add, it is HIGHLY unlikely that a child with autism has mito, especially if that child has never been hospitalized, doesn’t have severe health issues, eats on their own, there is no muscle-wasting, vision impairment, heart defects, etc. Read more about mito at umdf.org & see how autism doesn’t equal mito, and how this case has nada to do with what Kirby is fighting for!

By: Kristina Chew, PhD

Kristina Chew, PhD — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:52:29 +0000

It’s interesting and unfortunate that a scientific issue is being seen as “decided” because of a courtroom verdict—-the scientific evidence continues to show that there is no link between autism and vaccines or something in vaccines. I have commented on David Kirby’s recent post here—-Kirby is presuming that one verdict for one child is suggestive of a cause for autism.

By: Tiffany

Tiffany — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:41:34 +0000

I think you are missing the point S.L. I don’t think vaccines by themselves create autism and I don’t think most other people do either so your argument is bunk. My position and the position of thousands of other moms and is that vaccines and can exacerbate exisiting problems and immune definciencies…opening the door for autism and other issues. If there is even the slighest chance that a vaccine can exacerbate and existing problem and cause autism or any other number of problems then we need to reformulate them, change the schedules, and do testing on children before we ASSSUME their body can handle the assault. Is that too much to ask? I don’t think so. I think it is sad that so many parents push the herd mentality on us while we are just exercising some good judgement and not blindly following Merck around like sheeple.

The child’s diagnosis shows that he or she was not a viable candidate for vaccination and this could have and should have been established before a vaccination occurred….period! I am willing to bet MANY children are not good candidates for vaccination but we don’t like to talk about that do we.

By: S.L.

S.L. — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:30:48 +0000

I’ve read it, most of us here have. Mr. Kirby, as Dr. Chew points out, dodges a key part of this case: the child’s diagnosis!!!! Unless your child indeed has mitochondrial disease (inherited from you–that is the ONLY way one ‘gets’ mito), then there is no significance to you and zero admittance that vaccines cause autism.

If you’re interested in the other side of the coin, please read what Kristina’s posted on this & what I’ve written on this case–I speak from first-hand experience with the diagnoses involved in this case.