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		<title>By: The (Puzzling) Ribbon Culture</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/vaccines-and-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-550615</link>
		<dc:creator>The (Puzzling) Ribbon Culture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Until a rather large truck (a several-wheeler) squoze too close against my car a year ago, a magnet of the puzzle ribbon adorned its left rear-end. That part of the car was in need of some repairs after that accident and we never got around to putting on a new magnet. And too, there was a part of me that felt, did we need a magnet that says &#8220;Autism Awareness&#8221; when it often seems that people have only to see Charlie and they are &#8220;aware&#8221; that something&#8217;s different about him? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Until a rather large truck (a several-wheeler) squoze too close against my car a year ago, a magnet of the puzzle ribbon adorned its left rear-end. That part of the car was in need of some repairs after that accident and we never got around to putting on a new magnet. And too, there was a part of me that felt, did we need a magnet that says &#8220;Autism Awareness&#8221; when it often seems that people have only to see Charlie and they are &#8220;aware&#8221; that something&#8217;s different about him? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Cause of It All</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/vaccines-and-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-547962</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cause of It All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I first think of is not &#8220;why is Charlie autistic&#8221; (I have only to consider the various quirks and different-ness of my husband Jim and me to know that Charlie a lot from us), but of how much I&#8217;ve learned [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I first think of is not &#8220;why is Charlie autistic&#8221; (I have only to consider the various quirks and different-ness of my husband Jim and me to know that Charlie a lot from us), but of how much I&#8217;ve learned [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 05:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to think that, but then I learned more about what was behind the jump, and how &quot;autism&quot; itself is not a static category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to think that, but then I learned more about what was behind the jump, and how &#8220;autism&#8221; itself is not a static category.</p>
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		<title>By: Thorton</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/vaccines-and-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-552150</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that better diagnosis is a factor.  Though, I don&#039;t believe it explains most of it.  A jump from 1 in 1000 to 1 in 150 in a matter of a couple of decades would seem to be something more than just noticing it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that better diagnosis is a factor.  Though, I don&#8217;t believe it explains most of it.  A jump from 1 in 1000 to 1 in 150 in a matter of a couple of decades would seem to be something more than just noticing it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/vaccines-and-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-551975</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Thortong,

Sorry I have taken so long to respond----briefly (and many will disagree with this), I think that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.autismvox.com/better-diagnosis-and-so-called-epidemics-2/&quot;&gt;better diagnosis and understanding&lt;/a&gt; have a lot to do with rising rates, along with changes in how autism is defined and diagnosed.

This is not the view, as you know, of many on the internet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thortong,</p>
<p>Sorry I have taken so long to respond&#8212;-briefly (and many will disagree with this), I think that <a href="http://www.autismvox.com/better-diagnosis-and-so-called-epidemics-2/">better diagnosis and understanding</a> have a lot to do with rising rates, along with changes in how autism is defined and diagnosed.</p>
<p>This is not the view, as you know, of many on the internet!</p>
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		<title>By: Thortong</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/vaccines-and-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-551974</link>
		<dc:creator>Thortong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me rephrase my question a little.

What is causing the sudden increase in autism rates?
Sudden changes in environment or sudden changes in genes or both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me rephrase my question a little.</p>
<p>What is causing the sudden increase in autism rates?<br />
Sudden changes in environment or sudden changes in genes or both?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/vaccines-and-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-539882</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Laura  and another Laura,

&quot;I realized that what has helped me understand autism the greatest are the stories of other people.&quot;

Yes----this is exactly what has helped me the most, the stories.

I used to write daily about my son on a weblog called Autismland. For almost 2 years, starting in June 2005, I just tried to write a simple account of what Charlie did (and with a photo). Gradually I moved into writing more about &quot;issues&quot; and started to interweave writing about Charlie. I had started to feel that it was time that I stepped aside from telling so much of his story.

I&#039;ve been in touch with some other parents (mostly mothers, some autistic themselves) for almost three years and it&#039;s the stories that sustain. I have my quibbles with the likes of David Kirby because the story that he is telling doesn&#039;t seem to touch that concrete dailiness, the shiny stickiness on the floor across from me from something Charlie ate. I&#039;m fascinated by the discussions and research and science about autism but they lack the technicolor 3-d ness of a good story; a real story.

btw, Laura: my family have been regular readers of my blogs from the beginning. They all live in California and one aunt noted to me that it really helped her to, finally, understand what our daily lives are like. It means a great deal to me to know they (and you) are reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Laura  and another Laura,</p>
<p>&#8220;I realized that what has helped me understand autism the greatest are the stories of other people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes&#8212;-this is exactly what has helped me the most, the stories.</p>
<p>I used to write daily about my son on a weblog called Autismland. For almost 2 years, starting in June 2005, I just tried to write a simple account of what Charlie did (and with a photo). Gradually I moved into writing more about &#8220;issues&#8221; and started to interweave writing about Charlie. I had started to feel that it was time that I stepped aside from telling so much of his story.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in touch with some other parents (mostly mothers, some autistic themselves) for almost three years and it&#8217;s the stories that sustain. I have my quibbles with the likes of David Kirby because the story that he is telling doesn&#8217;t seem to touch that concrete dailiness, the shiny stickiness on the floor across from me from something Charlie ate. I&#8217;m fascinated by the discussions and research and science about autism but they lack the technicolor 3-d ness of a good story; a real story.</p>
<p>btw, Laura: my family have been regular readers of my blogs from the beginning. They all live in California and one aunt noted to me that it really helped her to, finally, understand what our daily lives are like. It means a great deal to me to know they (and you) are reading.</p>
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		<title>By: RAJ</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/vaccines-and-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-551895</link>
		<dc:creator>RAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Autism genetic theorists imply that genetic variants cause autism. Correlation do not prove causation.

No genes that cause autism have ever been identified, none.

In a gene - environment model there is a genetic component and and an environmental component.

This has been clearly demonstrated in genetic variants found in individuals who are susceptabile to infection after exposure to an environmental pathogen. Leprosy and HIV are the most proven:

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1101160v1

There are many  genetic variants found to occur in higher rates in autistic people than the general population.

There are many pre peri and neonatal insults that have been found to occur in the medical history of autistic people at higher rates than has been reported in the general population.

The challenge is to match specific genes to specific insults, which  will take decades to begin to unravel since there is a lack of specificity found in both the genetic and environmental components in autism.

Leprosy and HIV are relatively simple to unravel because, unlike autism, there is a single environmental insult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Autism genetic theorists imply that genetic variants cause autism. Correlation do not prove causation.</p>
<p>No genes that cause autism have ever been identified, none.</p>
<p>In a gene &#8211; environment model there is a genetic component and and an environmental component.</p>
<p>This has been clearly demonstrated in genetic variants found in individuals who are susceptabile to infection after exposure to an environmental pathogen. Leprosy and HIV are the most proven:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1101160v1" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1101160v1</a></p>
<p>There are many  genetic variants found to occur in higher rates in autistic people than the general population.</p>
<p>There are many pre peri and neonatal insults that have been found to occur in the medical history of autistic people at higher rates than has been reported in the general population.</p>
<p>The challenge is to match specific genes to specific insults, which  will take decades to begin to unravel since there is a lack of specificity found in both the genetic and environmental components in autism.</p>
<p>Leprosy and HIV are relatively simple to unravel because, unlike autism, there is a single environmental insult.</p>
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		<title>By: Thorton</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/vaccines-and-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-548917</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the theory that genes that indicate a predisposition are triggered by environmental factors?

Have these genes always been around and the environment has changed?

Or Are the genes suddenly showing up?

Or both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the theory that genes that indicate a predisposition are triggered by environmental factors?</p>
<p>Have these genes always been around and the environment has changed?</p>
<p>Or Are the genes suddenly showing up?</p>
<p>Or both?</p>
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		<title>By: RAJ</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/vaccines-and-genes/comment-page-1/#comment-540411</link>
		<dc:creator>RAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her is another example of the branding of &#039;autism&#039;.

Schizotypal personality disorder:

http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis/p20-pe02.html

There is not much if any difference between the diagnostic criteria for SPD than there is for Asperger Disorder. In fact, the prevelance of SPD in the UK has dramatically declined with the publication of DSM-IV and the introduction  of Asperger Syndrome to the DSM vernacular.

There is nothing inherently wrong with overdiagnosing or actually misdiagnosing &#039;autism&#039; in terms increased passkeys to access to special services which is exactly how Eric Schopler described it.

The problem is that scientific research into prevention and treatment becomes unmeasurable when a host of unrelated neuropychiatric conditions are all lumped under one tenuous umbrella.

One of the more headscratchimg diagnostic schemes (DSM-IV 1994) that differentiates PDD/NOS from autistic disorder is that under PDD-NOS the child is not &#039;autistic&#039; although they may have enough isolated nonspecific symptoms shared by many developmental disorders to qualify for an ASD diagnosis.

The entire autism epidemic can be explained  in the startling jump in prevelance rates for PDD/NOS and Asperger Syndrome while the prevelance of Autisitc Disorder has remained relativel steady.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her is another example of the branding of &#8216;autism&#8217;.</p>
<p>Schizotypal personality disorder:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis/p20-pe02.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis/p20-pe02.html</a></p>
<p>There is not much if any difference between the diagnostic criteria for SPD than there is for Asperger Disorder. In fact, the prevelance of SPD in the UK has dramatically declined with the publication of DSM-IV and the introduction  of Asperger Syndrome to the DSM vernacular.</p>
<p>There is nothing inherently wrong with overdiagnosing or actually misdiagnosing &#8216;autism&#8217; in terms increased passkeys to access to special services which is exactly how Eric Schopler described it.</p>
<p>The problem is that scientific research into prevention and treatment becomes unmeasurable when a host of unrelated neuropychiatric conditions are all lumped under one tenuous umbrella.</p>
<p>One of the more headscratchimg diagnostic schemes (DSM-IV 1994) that differentiates PDD/NOS from autistic disorder is that under PDD-NOS the child is not &#8216;autistic&#8217; although they may have enough isolated nonspecific symptoms shared by many developmental disorders to qualify for an ASD diagnosis.</p>
<p>The entire autism epidemic can be explained  in the startling jump in prevelance rates for PDD/NOS and Asperger Syndrome while the prevelance of Autisitc Disorder has remained relativel steady.</p>
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