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	<title>Comments on: Why did SWA remove Nick Andrews from a non-stop flight?</title>
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		<title>By: Ivy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to become the devil&#039;s advocate, but I still have mixed feelings about the recent surge of incidents of this nature. Yes, there can&#039;t be discrimination against disability, but if it&#039;s not disclosed, then how would you expect the crew and passengers to assume that a person or child has a disability. It&#039;s not tattoed on their heads. And everyone knows that so much has changed since 9/11 to the point of paranoia. Most of the time, the airlines and their crew need to adjust to ever changing government regulations that have to do with anti-terrorism measures. Some of these measures can be down right ridiculous, but they have to comply anyway, or risk being fined. It&#039;s not easy being part of a flight crew these days, that&#039;s all I&#039;m saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to become the devil&#8217;s advocate, but I still have mixed feelings about the recent surge of incidents of this nature. Yes, there can&#8217;t be discrimination against disability, but if it&#8217;s not disclosed, then how would you expect the crew and passengers to assume that a person or child has a disability. It&#8217;s not tattoed on their heads. And everyone knows that so much has changed since 9/11 to the point of paranoia. Most of the time, the airlines and their crew need to adjust to ever changing government regulations that have to do with anti-terrorism measures. Some of these measures can be down right ridiculous, but they have to comply anyway, or risk being fined. It&#8217;s not easy being part of a flight crew these days, that&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying.</p>
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		<title>By: The Very Unfriendly Skies</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Very Unfriendly Skies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the toddler.&#8221; Commenters have responded in droves (over 1300 plus so far): As my friend Regan noted: What is more disturbing is the negative and sometimes vitriolic tone in some comments about the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the toddler.&#8221; Commenters have responded in droves (over 1300 plus so far): As my friend Regan noted: What is more disturbing is the negative and sometimes vitriolic tone in some comments about the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s reminding me of the comment threads about Adam Race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s reminding me of the comment threads about Adam Race.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. What is more disturbing is the negative and sometimes vitriolic tone in some comments about the boy, his mother, how disabled people should behave, what autism is,  what people who are differenced are entitled to, and passenger comfort. 

I think the DOT and TSA is pretty clear on the safety conditions, but as they state in the rules, 
§ 382.31 Refusal of transportation.
...
(b) A carrier shall not refuse to provide
transportation to a qualified individual with a
disability solely because the person’s
disability results in appearance or involuntary
behavior that may offend, annoy, or
inconvenience crewmembers or other
passengers.
...&quot;
There are some aspects related to seatbelts, etc., but the part that sounds wonky to me is the explanation that the boy&#039;s crying represented a safety concern. Sorry, have travelled on enough flights with crying babies to have kind of a blind spot on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. What is more disturbing is the negative and sometimes vitriolic tone in some comments about the boy, his mother, how disabled people should behave, what autism is,  what people who are differenced are entitled to, and passenger comfort. </p>
<p>I think the DOT and TSA is pretty clear on the safety conditions, but as they state in the rules,<br />
§ 382.31 Refusal of transportation.<br />
&#8230;<br />
(b) A carrier shall not refuse to provide<br />
transportation to a qualified individual with a<br />
disability solely because the person’s<br />
disability results in appearance or involuntary<br />
behavior that may offend, annoy, or<br />
inconvenience crewmembers or other<br />
passengers.<br />
&#8230;&#8221;<br />
There are some aspects related to seatbelts, etc., but the part that sounds wonky to me is the explanation that the boy&#8217;s crying represented a safety concern. Sorry, have travelled on enough flights with crying babies to have kind of a blind spot on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina Chew, PhD</title>
		<link>http://www.blisstree.com/articles/why-did-swa-remove-nick-andrews-from-a-non-stop-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-551558</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristina Chew, PhD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also read about this here.

http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2008/06/23/daily30.html?jst=b_ln_hl

Based on our recent experience with security in the airport, I&#039;m not surprised---</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also read about this here.</p>
<p><a href="http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2008/06/23/daily30.html?jst=b_ln_hl" rel="nofollow">http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2008/06/23/daily30.html?jst=b_ln_hl</a></p>
<p>Based on our recent experience with security in the airport, I&#8217;m not surprised&#8212;</p>
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		<title>By: Regan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristina,
I imagine that you might blog on this, but it caught my attention this AM.
Autistic Boy and Mom Kicked Off Plane
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Story?id=5238571&amp;page=1

The story itself sounds somewhat in progress, but it&#039;s the 1000+ comments that are very polarized, and some that make me realize that there are folks who either don&#039;t *get* or have some kind of peeve against those who are differently abled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristina,<br />
I imagine that you might blog on this, but it caught my attention this AM.<br />
Autistic Boy and Mom Kicked Off Plane<br />
<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Story?id=5238571&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Story?id=5238571&amp;page=1</a></p>
<p>The story itself sounds somewhat in progress, but it&#8217;s the 1000+ comments that are very polarized, and some that make me realize that there are folks who either don&#8217;t *get* or have some kind of peeve against those who are differently abled.</p>
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		<title>By: natalia</title>
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		<dc:creator>natalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(apart from the discrimination, of course)...

all i can think of is how much fun that guy would have been to sit next to.  math/ science/ engineering/ mechanics perseverations are not mine, but i find it great fun to listen to (and maybe learn something in the process from) the people who like to go on about those things.

the exchange of information *unrelated* to your special interest is one of the under-reported benefits of hanging out with other autistics.

do most people seriously go up in an airplane without marvelling (as much in curiosity as in surprise) about how the whole thing works, that you can routinely go up in a thing the size of a building that successfully flies through the air at great speeds?  ok, maybe they do.  but why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(apart from the discrimination, of course)&#8230;</p>
<p>all i can think of is how much fun that guy would have been to sit next to.  math/ science/ engineering/ mechanics perseverations are not mine, but i find it great fun to listen to (and maybe learn something in the process from) the people who like to go on about those things.</p>
<p>the exchange of information *unrelated* to your special interest is one of the under-reported benefits of hanging out with other autistics.</p>
<p>do most people seriously go up in an airplane without marvelling (as much in curiosity as in surprise) about how the whole thing works, that you can routinely go up in a thing the size of a building that successfully flies through the air at great speeds?  ok, maybe they do.  but why?</p>
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		<title>By: Regan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if this is news you can use, but I pulled this off of the Southwest Airlines website:
http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/14cfr.pdf

&quot;U.S. Department of Transportation
14 CFR Part 382
Includes amendments issued through July 2003 (e.g., includes the amendment on reporting of disability-related consumer complaints)

NONDISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF DISABILITY IN AIR TRAVEL
SUBPART C -- REQUIREMENTS
CONCERNING SERVICES&quot;
Excerpt:
&quot;§ 382.31 Refusal of transportation.
...
(b) A carrier shall not refuse to provide
transportation to a qualified individual with a
disability solely because the person’s
disability results in appearance or involuntary
behavior that may offend, annoy, or
inconvenience crewmembers or other
passengers
...
SUBPART D -- ADMINISTRATIVE
PROVISIONS
§ 382.61 Training.
...(i) The requirements of this part and other
DOT or FAA regulations affecting the
provision of air travel to persons with a
disability; and
(ii) The carrier’s procedures, consistent
with this part, concerning the provision of air
travel to persons with a disability, including
the proper and safe operation of any
equipment used to accommodate passengers
with a disability.
(2) The carrier shall also train such
employees with respect to awareness and
appropriate responses to persons with a
disability, including persons with physical,
sensory, mental, and emotional disabilities,
including how to distinguish among the
differing abilities of individuals with a
disability.
(3) The carrier shall consult with
organizations representing persons with
disabilities in developing its training program
and the policies and procedures concerning
which carrier personnel are trained.
...&quot;

So the policy is there but there appears to be a lapse in implementation. I think that Southwest management themselves may be heaving a big sigh of relief that nothing happened to Mr. Andrews because of changing his flight. This was bad, but if he had gone missing or been robbed, I could see a mega lawsuit in the works.
An apology is the least that could happen. I still wonder if the reason he was bumped was simply for being &quot;annoying&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this is news you can use, but I pulled this off of the Southwest Airlines website:<br />
<a href="http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/14cfr.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/14cfr.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8220;U.S. Department of Transportation<br />
14 CFR Part 382<br />
Includes amendments issued through July 2003 (e.g., includes the amendment on reporting of disability-related consumer complaints)</p>
<p>NONDISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF DISABILITY IN AIR TRAVEL<br />
SUBPART C &#8212; REQUIREMENTS<br />
CONCERNING SERVICES&#8221;<br />
Excerpt:<br />
&#8220;§ 382.31 Refusal of transportation.<br />
&#8230;<br />
(b) A carrier shall not refuse to provide<br />
transportation to a qualified individual with a<br />
disability solely because the person’s<br />
disability results in appearance or involuntary<br />
behavior that may offend, annoy, or<br />
inconvenience crewmembers or other<br />
passengers<br />
&#8230;<br />
SUBPART D &#8212; ADMINISTRATIVE<br />
PROVISIONS<br />
§ 382.61 Training.<br />
&#8230;(i) The requirements of this part and other<br />
DOT or FAA regulations affecting the<br />
provision of air travel to persons with a<br />
disability; and<br />
(ii) The carrier’s procedures, consistent<br />
with this part, concerning the provision of air<br />
travel to persons with a disability, including<br />
the proper and safe operation of any<br />
equipment used to accommodate passengers<br />
with a disability.<br />
(2) The carrier shall also train such<br />
employees with respect to awareness and<br />
appropriate responses to persons with a<br />
disability, including persons with physical,<br />
sensory, mental, and emotional disabilities,<br />
including how to distinguish among the<br />
differing abilities of individuals with a<br />
disability.<br />
(3) The carrier shall consult with<br />
organizations representing persons with<br />
disabilities in developing its training program<br />
and the policies and procedures concerning<br />
which carrier personnel are trained.<br />
&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>So the policy is there but there appears to be a lapse in implementation. I think that Southwest management themselves may be heaving a big sigh of relief that nothing happened to Mr. Andrews because of changing his flight. This was bad, but if he had gone missing or been robbed, I could see a mega lawsuit in the works.<br />
An apology is the least that could happen. I still wonder if the reason he was bumped was simply for being &#8220;annoying&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: G&#8217;s Place &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Explain how airplanes work, get tagged as a terrorist</title>
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		<dc:creator>G&#8217;s Place &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Explain how airplanes work, get tagged as a terrorist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Linda Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This speaks to the need for public education and information about autism.  Passengers as well as the airline were woefully uninformed.

Southwest did apologize in their statement but should have referred to him as Mr. Andrews and not Nicholas.  Why does having autism reduce a man to his first name?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This speaks to the need for public education and information about autism.  Passengers as well as the airline were woefully uninformed.</p>
<p>Southwest did apologize in their statement but should have referred to him as Mr. Andrews and not Nicholas.  Why does having autism reduce a man to his first name?</p>
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