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	<title>Comments on: Jon &amp; Kate Plus 8 add Dogs</title>
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		<title>By: palewolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>palewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry it took so long to reply...haven&#039;t been here in a WHILE...a responsible breeder MIGHT take a chance on such a situation, but me personally...I would ONLY sell ONE puppy, NEVER two to such a situation. I am willing to give people a chance, BUT they would have to prove they are capable of the committment involved--as in frequent visits to the kennel to assist in training (and learning) a thing or two from the ADULT version of what their puppy would turn into.

As evidenced by the fall out of the marriage, those poor puppies have probably been split up and thrown out...Jon might be interested in one, but Kate would probably prefer to drown them both for being dogs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry it took so long to reply&#8230;haven&#8217;t been here in a WHILE&#8230;a responsible breeder MIGHT take a chance on such a situation, but me personally&#8230;I would ONLY sell ONE puppy, NEVER two to such a situation. I am willing to give people a chance, BUT they would have to prove they are capable of the committment involved&#8211;as in frequent visits to the kennel to assist in training (and learning) a thing or two from the ADULT version of what their puppy would turn into.</p>
<p>As evidenced by the fall out of the marriage, those poor puppies have probably been split up and thrown out&#8230;Jon might be interested in one, but Kate would probably prefer to drown them both for being dogs!</p>
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		<title>By: Jolene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jolene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love your comments and advice Palewolf.  Perhaps you, since you seem to know the canine species very well, answer this question:  Why would an ethical breeder sell to a family so utterly unprepared to own any kind of animal?  This befuddles me--baffles me--bothers me.
The breeders of my beloved bassets would have never done such a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love your comments and advice Palewolf.  Perhaps you, since you seem to know the canine species very well, answer this question:  Why would an ethical breeder sell to a family so utterly unprepared to own any kind of animal?  This befuddles me&#8211;baffles me&#8211;bothers me.<br />
The breeders of my beloved bassets would have never done such a thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jolene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jolene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shauna, and Diane, you&#039;re both right too.  I have vowed not to watch another episode because it&#039;s just so upsetting to see those dogs caged up and to know how damaging it is for any dog to be locked away and ignored. The last straw for me was when Kate--the ultimate hostess--spread out the blanket for a back yard picnic, laid out the food, then up charged the pups who began devouring the fare.  She screamed for Jon to &#039;crate them&#039; for after all, &#039;reasoned&#039; Kate, &#039;an hour won&#039;t kill them. . ..&#039;    But I do have to give credit to Jon who explained to her, and I will paraphrase:  &quot;what do you expect?&quot; &quot;They can&#039;t tell the difference when food is placed on the ground.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shauna, and Diane, you&#8217;re both right too.  I have vowed not to watch another episode because it&#8217;s just so upsetting to see those dogs caged up and to know how damaging it is for any dog to be locked away and ignored. The last straw for me was when Kate&#8211;the ultimate hostess&#8211;spread out the blanket for a back yard picnic, laid out the food, then up charged the pups who began devouring the fare.  She screamed for Jon to &#8216;crate them&#8217; for after all, &#8216;reasoned&#8217; Kate, &#8216;an hour won&#8217;t kill them. . ..&#8217;    But I do have to give credit to Jon who explained to her, and I will paraphrase:  &#8220;what do you expect?&#8221; &#8220;They can&#8217;t tell the difference when food is placed on the ground.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jolene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jolene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awesome comments hannah.  and since kate is such a &#039;saint,&#039; perhaps she should consider giving these beautiful pups back to their breeder so that they will get a home that&#039;s actually a home!  this thoroughly sickens me.  such an incredible breed of dog needs and deserves an equally incredible &#039;owner.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome comments hannah.  and since kate is such a &#8217;saint,&#8217; perhaps she should consider giving these beautiful pups back to their breeder so that they will get a home that&#8217;s actually a home!  this thoroughly sickens me.  such an incredible breed of dog needs and deserves an equally incredible &#8216;owner.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Jolene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jolene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am shocked by the way these beautiful dogs are treated--especially by Kate who obviously cannot stand them.  Any ethical breeder would have thought twice then declined to sell to a family so unprepared, so unqualified, and so undeserving to own a GS ( let alone 2 of them!!! ).    Good God, I feel so sorry for those dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am shocked by the way these beautiful dogs are treated&#8211;especially by Kate who obviously cannot stand them.  Any ethical breeder would have thought twice then declined to sell to a family so unprepared, so unqualified, and so undeserving to own a GS ( let alone 2 of them!!! ).    Good God, I feel so sorry for those dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: saber396</title>
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		<dc:creator>saber396</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After only watching because of the OCC episode..she should never be allowed to own a dog....her comment on putting them in a cage where they belong...As a Shepherd owner for 15 years, I was outraged...such beautiful dogs.  Mine was execellent with children.  People like this should not be able to own pets...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After only watching because of the OCC episode..she should never be allowed to own a dog&#8230;.her comment on putting them in a cage where they belong&#8230;As a Shepherd owner for 15 years, I was outraged&#8230;such beautiful dogs.  Mine was execellent with children.  People like this should not be able to own pets&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last thing they needed was a dog, let alone two!   I just am waiting to see the show where they have gotten rid of the dogs.   Absolutely irresponsible!    Animal lovers everywhere should be upset.   This is why shelters across the country are filled with dogs.  Owners buy them, and then realize how much work they are and give them up.   Disgusting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last thing they needed was a dog, let alone two!   I just am waiting to see the show where they have gotten rid of the dogs.   Absolutely irresponsible!    Animal lovers everywhere should be upset.   This is why shelters across the country are filled with dogs.  Owners buy them, and then realize how much work they are and give them up.   Disgusting!</p>
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		<title>By: palewolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>palewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 00:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you, I DO hope they listened and/or even got to read it...it&#039;s sad you could have been edited out of the e-mail pile for being too &quot;harsh&quot; or &quot;criticizing&quot; but SOMEONE has to SAY something... but will they LISTEN is the TRUE question!  From just what I have read here, Kate is a force with her own pre-concieved and controlling issues, so puppies may only push her further beyond that &quot;control&quot; aspect later on, and the puppies will be GONE-- the children will be trumatized (IF nothing BAD happens first) and those poor dogs will be starting at ground ZERO again, when the PROPER measures could have been taken to make it work out better!

I feel pets teach us a GREAT many things about patience, diligence, responsibility and how to look at things as an eternal optimist--but you have to go into puppy or dog ownership with YOUR EYES OPEN to learn those lessons!  I&#039;m afraid Kate doesn&#039;t sound too open to those child-like lessons a dog can bring--but what would I know about that stuff, I have 13 dogs myself! *rolls eyes*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you, I DO hope they listened and/or even got to read it&#8230;it&#8217;s sad you could have been edited out of the e-mail pile for being too &#8220;harsh&#8221; or &#8220;criticizing&#8221; but SOMEONE has to SAY something&#8230; but will they LISTEN is the TRUE question!  From just what I have read here, Kate is a force with her own pre-concieved and controlling issues, so puppies may only push her further beyond that &#8220;control&#8221; aspect later on, and the puppies will be GONE&#8211; the children will be trumatized (IF nothing BAD happens first) and those poor dogs will be starting at ground ZERO again, when the PROPER measures could have been taken to make it work out better!</p>
<p>I feel pets teach us a GREAT many things about patience, diligence, responsibility and how to look at things as an eternal optimist&#8211;but you have to go into puppy or dog ownership with YOUR EYES OPEN to learn those lessons!  I&#8217;m afraid Kate doesn&#8217;t sound too open to those child-like lessons a dog can bring&#8211;but what would I know about that stuff, I have 13 dogs myself! *rolls eyes*</p>
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		<title>By: palewolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>palewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 00:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have personally waited until ALL the younger children were between 6-8 years old.  Puppies, ESPECIALLY German Shepherd puppies are HARD work--TWO puppies to boot, are they BRAIN-DEAD?!!!  The sad thing is, that by the time they &quot;get tired&quot; of the puppies, they will probably be about 6-8 months or more old with a head FULL of issues!  MEANING they will most likely have to be started from scratch with RULES, BOUNDARIES and LIMITATIONS to get them back on track for anyone to WANT to give them a NEW home!

1)Puppies aren&#039;t a tool to use as leverage to get children to comply--!!!
2)Puppies DO teach responsibility, but ONLY if the parent takes the FULL brunt of the CHORES involved, THEN askes a child to help every now and again!  It&#039;s ALWAYS the parent&#039;s JOB, NOT the child&#039;s, that&#039;s just asking WAY TOO much, and setting yourself up for disappointment when a child FORGETS or cannot successfully handle the pet when JON AND KATE AS THE PARENT&#039;S ARE 1000% RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CARE OF THE PUPPIES!!!


I don&#039;t watch the show, and the couple snippets I have seen I wasn&#039;t all that impressed, so I don&#039;t watch it.  I happened to be watching a completely DIFFERENT TLC show when I saw the preview of the &quot;2 Puppies&quot; episode and was absolutely ANGRY!  THIS is the reason children get bit by dogs they &quot;grow up with&quot;!!!  You know what they say about those who ASS-U-ME...Jon and Kate will ASSUME that because the children and puppies grew up together, that the dogs will RESPECT the children (that&#039;s a TAUGHT TRAIT, not a genetice pre-curser to a breed!)---you couldn&#039;t be FURTHER from the TRUTH!!!  When it&#039;s NOT cute behavior anymore they will:

1) GET RID of the adholescent head case puppies
2) Hire trainers who may tell them &quot;it&#039;s hopeless&quot; UNLESS it&#039;s Cesar Milan
3) Take them back to the breeder-who then has to UNDO MONTHS of NO training!
4) BANISH the dogs outside where they will only continue to DEVOLVE into feral animals capable of attacking a child they see as a mere pup/equal or WORSE as a fleeing/screaming/temper tantrum throwing/squealing prey item--TWO German Shepherds that have bonded to eachother will SNAP into HUNTER mode and HUNT as a PACK if the nipping, biting, barking, tackling, herding and rough-housing of children isn&#039;t STOPPED IMEDIATELY!!!
5) Worst case scenario a child or two+ is injured/mauled/killed by thier own family &quot;pets&quot; and the dogs will be euthanized and charges possibly filed against Jon and Kate for negligence---

It&#039;s NOT too late to prevent this, but it takes W-O-R-K to create a GREAT German Shepherd Dog, NOT negligent assumptions!  The puppies may have the most PERFECT genetics on the planet, but they don&#039;t come home with a genetically encoded 100+ word command vocabulary!!!  ALL the love in the world won&#039;t stop a breed with serious potential to cause DAMAGE from doing so, EVEN accidentally or in a spur-of-the-moment freak accident!  THEN it&#039;s the BREED as a WHOLE that walks away with a bum-reputaion--instead of the finger pointing at the STUPIDITY of two ADULTS who have little to NO experience with the breed or ANY dog for that matter who seriously FUBARED the JOB of successfully raising tow puppies to be respectful.

I&#039;m positive that 80-90% of the show is edited out for the &quot;juicy&quot; aspects that make reality TV so popular, so I know I may not have the FULL story if I was to watch the show, but it&#039;s those kids, puppies and the WHOLE German Shepherd breed that will suffer if this publicity STUNT goes horribly AWRY!  I&#039;m sure the puppy thing was to possibly boost ratings, but what do I know--I am just an outside looking in, and growing ever more concerned because I OWN 2 German Shepherds, and MY dogs face Anti-Breed legislation because of total NIT-WITS like these two!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have personally waited until ALL the younger children were between 6-8 years old.  Puppies, ESPECIALLY German Shepherd puppies are HARD work&#8211;TWO puppies to boot, are they BRAIN-DEAD?!!!  The sad thing is, that by the time they &#8220;get tired&#8221; of the puppies, they will probably be about 6-8 months or more old with a head FULL of issues!  MEANING they will most likely have to be started from scratch with RULES, BOUNDARIES and LIMITATIONS to get them back on track for anyone to WANT to give them a NEW home!</p>
<p>1)Puppies aren&#8217;t a tool to use as leverage to get children to comply&#8211;!!!<br />
2)Puppies DO teach responsibility, but ONLY if the parent takes the FULL brunt of the CHORES involved, THEN askes a child to help every now and again!  It&#8217;s ALWAYS the parent&#8217;s JOB, NOT the child&#8217;s, that&#8217;s just asking WAY TOO much, and setting yourself up for disappointment when a child FORGETS or cannot successfully handle the pet when JON AND KATE AS THE PARENT&#8217;S ARE 1000% RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CARE OF THE PUPPIES!!!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t watch the show, and the couple snippets I have seen I wasn&#8217;t all that impressed, so I don&#8217;t watch it.  I happened to be watching a completely DIFFERENT TLC show when I saw the preview of the &#8220;2 Puppies&#8221; episode and was absolutely ANGRY!  THIS is the reason children get bit by dogs they &#8220;grow up with&#8221;!!!  You know what they say about those who ASS-U-ME&#8230;Jon and Kate will ASSUME that because the children and puppies grew up together, that the dogs will RESPECT the children (that&#8217;s a TAUGHT TRAIT, not a genetice pre-curser to a breed!)&#8212;you couldn&#8217;t be FURTHER from the TRUTH!!!  When it&#8217;s NOT cute behavior anymore they will:</p>
<p>1) GET RID of the adholescent head case puppies<br />
2) Hire trainers who may tell them &#8220;it&#8217;s hopeless&#8221; UNLESS it&#8217;s Cesar Milan<br />
3) Take them back to the breeder-who then has to UNDO MONTHS of NO training!<br />
4) BANISH the dogs outside where they will only continue to DEVOLVE into feral animals capable of attacking a child they see as a mere pup/equal or WORSE as a fleeing/screaming/temper tantrum throwing/squealing prey item&#8211;TWO German Shepherds that have bonded to eachother will SNAP into HUNTER mode and HUNT as a PACK if the nipping, biting, barking, tackling, herding and rough-housing of children isn&#8217;t STOPPED IMEDIATELY!!!<br />
5) Worst case scenario a child or two+ is injured/mauled/killed by thier own family &#8220;pets&#8221; and the dogs will be euthanized and charges possibly filed against Jon and Kate for negligence&#8212;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s NOT too late to prevent this, but it takes W-O-R-K to create a GREAT German Shepherd Dog, NOT negligent assumptions!  The puppies may have the most PERFECT genetics on the planet, but they don&#8217;t come home with a genetically encoded 100+ word command vocabulary!!!  ALL the love in the world won&#8217;t stop a breed with serious potential to cause DAMAGE from doing so, EVEN accidentally or in a spur-of-the-moment freak accident!  THEN it&#8217;s the BREED as a WHOLE that walks away with a bum-reputaion&#8211;instead of the finger pointing at the STUPIDITY of two ADULTS who have little to NO experience with the breed or ANY dog for that matter who seriously FUBARED the JOB of successfully raising tow puppies to be respectful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m positive that 80-90% of the show is edited out for the &#8220;juicy&#8221; aspects that make reality TV so popular, so I know I may not have the FULL story if I was to watch the show, but it&#8217;s those kids, puppies and the WHOLE German Shepherd breed that will suffer if this publicity STUNT goes horribly AWRY!  I&#8217;m sure the puppy thing was to possibly boost ratings, but what do I know&#8211;I am just an outside looking in, and growing ever more concerned because I OWN 2 German Shepherds, and MY dogs face Anti-Breed legislation because of total NIT-WITS like these two!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its a wonderful idea.Dogs, especially puppies, are a big responsibility but theirs 8 kids and 2 adults even more with the camera crew to look after the little darlings.I think their brave people and i respect them to the fullest. Kate is a wonderful mom, tho Jon could be a little better of a parent.He cuts a thin line. Maybe with a couple of animals he feel more inclined to be home more often. Animals are big stress reducers and the don&#039;t nag. So i think it was a wonderful decision on their behalf and i hope the pups like their new mommies and daddies.~good luck~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its a wonderful idea.Dogs, especially puppies, are a big responsibility but theirs 8 kids and 2 adults even more with the camera crew to look after the little darlings.I think their brave people and i respect them to the fullest. Kate is a wonderful mom, tho Jon could be a little better of a parent.He cuts a thin line. Maybe with a couple of animals he feel more inclined to be home more often. Animals are big stress reducers and the don&#8217;t nag. So i think it was a wonderful decision on their behalf and i hope the pups like their new mommies and daddies.~good luck~</p>
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