Comments on: Judge Denies Request to Keep FLDS Mothers with Nursing Children http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/ Breastfeeding 1-2-3: A Blog for Breastfeeding Tips and Support Thu, 24 Dec 2009 22:48:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: FLDS Children Ordered Back to Their Parents http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-2415 FLDS Children Ordered Back to Their Parents Fri, 30 May 2008 01:59:19 +0000 http://www.breastfeeding123.com/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/#comment-2415 [...] is one of those situations that leaves me unsure what to think. I want to be happy for the nursing mothers who were separated from their nurslings. Hopefully they have been pumping to maintain an adequate milk supply, or they can relactate, and [...] [...] is one of those situations that leaves me unsure what to think. I want to be happy for the nursing mothers who were separated from their nurslings. Hopefully they have been pumping to maintain an adequate milk supply, or they can relactate, and [...]

]]> By: Alicia Sparks, NAMI Affiliation Leader http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1866 Alicia Sparks, NAMI Affiliation Leader Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:26:26 +0000 http://www.breastfeeding123.com/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/#comment-1866 I don't think anyone really feels that a child should be kept in an abusive situation just to receive his/her mother's breast milk. Rather, I think the point here is that the temporary restraining order would have allowed the children to continue receiving the breast milk (in a safe environment - state custody) until the courts have actually determined whether or not abuse is actually happening - which, I think we should all remember, hasn't been determined yet beyond our own opinions. I don’t think anyone really feels that a child should be kept in an abusive situation just to receive his/her mother’s breast milk. Rather, I think the point here is that the temporary restraining order would have allowed the children to continue receiving the breast milk (in a safe environment – state custody) until the courts have actually determined whether or not abuse is actually happening – which, I think we should all remember, hasn’t been determined yet beyond our own opinions.

]]> By: Gordon (a father of two) http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1859 Gordon (a father of two) Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:06:07 +0000 http://www.breastfeeding123.com/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/#comment-1859 The babies aren't in the danger of any abuse. These women aren't high on drugs and alcohol. No evidence of cigarette smoking. Isolate those nursing cases, and let the mothers nurse there babies and tend them. They would be better that way. As to the religious view, ruling by fear isn't Gospel. But not to fire anyone up - this is a day of whatever you want to do for sex too. So they are Polygamous oriented - better than marrying and divorcing and marrying and divorcing, so on so on. Or one relationship after another, with multiple partners who might do more harm to a child. The babies aren’t in the danger of any abuse. These women aren’t high on drugs and alcohol. No evidence of cigarette smoking. Isolate those nursing cases, and let the mothers nurse there babies and tend them. They would be better that way.
As to the religious view, ruling by fear isn’t Gospel. But not to fire anyone up – this is a day of whatever you want to do for sex too. So they are Polygamous oriented – better than marrying and divorcing and marrying and divorcing, so on so on. Or one relationship after another, with multiple partners who might do more harm to a child.

]]> By: Susan http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1835 Susan Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:26:38 +0000 http://www.breastfeeding123.com/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/#comment-1835 Texas has done the right thing by these children. The only hope for all of them, is to take them away from an abuse enviroment. Young children have the greatest hope of escaping this, and becoming productive parts of our world. Why would you want to hold them back from an oportunity for a better life. Breast milk will not save these children, but a different future might! Texas has done the right thing by these children. The only hope for all of them, is to take them away from an abuse enviroment. Young children have the greatest hope of escaping this, and becoming productive parts of our world. Why would you want to hold them back from an oportunity for a better life. Breast milk will not save these children, but a different future might!

]]> By: Survivor http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1871 Survivor Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:44:12 +0000 http://www.breastfeeding123.com/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/#comment-1871 Abuse is abuse. Breast milk is great for nutrition but abuse hurts the soul and the upbringing and the life of the child. Anyone who sees breast milk as a reason to leave these children in abusive situations is SICK! Shame on you. Abuse is abuse. Breast milk is great for nutrition but abuse hurts the soul and the upbringing and the life of the child. Anyone who sees breast milk as a reason to leave these children in abusive situations is SICK! Shame on you.

]]> By: Miarno http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1913 Miarno Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:26:01 +0000 http://www.breastfeeding123.com/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/#comment-1913 i agree. i think this is a terrifying disregard of lives and families. based on a phony call! it makes me so sick to think of those kids not getting the breast milk, being taken from their parents. sad, sad, sad. i agree. i think this is a terrifying disregard of lives and families. based on a phony call! it makes me so sick to think of those kids not getting the breast milk, being taken from their parents. sad, sad, sad.

]]> By: StacyG http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1972 StacyG Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:02:40 +0000 http://www.breastfeeding123.com/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/#comment-1972 The breast fed babies should be allowed to continue to get breastmilk. I also think those cases should be sped up in the courts so that those kids can be reunited with thier moms sooner. I do think it was wrong to take all those kids away from thier families. I didn't think it was so bad when they kept the moms and kids together but now that they are seperated I just don't see how it's legal. I am really bothered by this story and the power that our goverment seems to wield. The breast fed babies should be allowed to continue to get breastmilk. I also think those cases should be sped up in the courts so that those kids can be reunited with thier moms sooner.

I do think it was wrong to take all those kids away from thier families. I didn’t think it was so bad when they kept the moms and kids together but now that they are seperated I just don’t see how it’s legal. I am really bothered by this story and the power that our goverment seems to wield.

]]> By: Maria http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1976 Maria Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:08:43 +0000 http://www.breastfeeding123.com/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/#comment-1976 Well... outside of the right/wrong religious issues, I think at a bare minimum the mothers should be allowed to pump and have their baby fed the breastmilk. I am not in a position to say if they are/were/will be abused, but no matter what, the child should be able to have the healthiest and best food provided to him/her. Well… outside of the right/wrong religious issues, I think at a bare minimum the mothers should be allowed to pump and have their baby fed the breastmilk. I am not in a position to say if they are/were/will be abused, but no matter what, the child should be able to have the healthiest and best food provided to him/her.

]]> By: Michelle http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-2033 Michelle Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:46:27 +0000 http://www.breastfeeding123.com/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/#comment-2033 The phone call that started the whole thing was a phony--it was traced to Colorado. They have found five teenage girls pregant. They are sixteen and seventeen years old. One of the seventeen year olds is married to another seventeen year old, so that one is out in my opinion. So that leaves four possible cases of abuse. Remove 77 nurslings, a total of 437 children over 4 cases? This is crazy, each child needs a hearing to determine if abuse has taken place. When abuse has been proven, then the child can be removed, not before. To deprive a child of breastmilk (or even just mama) before abuse has been proven is uncalled for. The phone call that started the whole thing was a phony–it was traced to Colorado. They have found five teenage girls pregant. They are sixteen and seventeen years old. One of the seventeen year olds is married to another seventeen year old, so that one is out in my opinion. So that leaves four possible cases of abuse. Remove 77 nurslings, a total of 437 children over 4 cases? This is crazy, each child needs a hearing to determine if abuse has taken place. When abuse has been proven, then the child can be removed, not before. To deprive a child of breastmilk (or even just mama) before abuse has been proven is uncalled for.

]]> By: Alicia Sparks, NAMI Affiliation Leader http://www.blisstree.com/breastfeeding123/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/comment-page-1/#comment-1999 Alicia Sparks, NAMI Affiliation Leader Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:00:25 +0000 http://www.breastfeeding123.com/judge-denies-request-to-keep-flds-mothers-with-nursing-children/#comment-1999 Oh, Angela, I just don't know! I've worried about these kids since Day One. I don't know if they were being abused and I don't know if their religion is "right" or "wrong," but I do know that this is looking like it's going to be a <i>long</i> battle, and the mental shock of being taken from their homes and their families has probably been horrendous. Add to that a whole new diet (i.e. no more breast milk) and, wow, I just really have them in my prayers. Oh, Angela, I just don’t know! I’ve worried about these kids since Day One. I don’t know if they were being abused and I don’t know if their religion is “right” or “wrong,” but I do know that this is looking like it’s going to be a long battle, and the mental shock of being taken from their homes and their families has probably been horrendous. Add to that a whole new diet (i.e. no more breast milk) and, wow, I just really have them in my prayers.

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